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...! posted:The trophy that was a true bitch was the one for killing three guys with one lightsaber throw. It took me forever to find three guys who would actually line up properly. Does the staff's circular throw count, or does it have to be the single blade throw?
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Wolfsheim posted:
This is a thing i really hate in games. Cutscene incompetence or the game just cheating really annoys me. Set an actual trap that will trick the player, and take "they might be winning" into account. I had a similar experience in some cod or medal of honor game where you're sneaking through a village at night, and I'm hugging a wall getting ready to peek around a corner. Then the game takes over, and my dude, still in first person, walks out in the middle of the road looking straight forward. He is then surprised by an enemy hiding in the exact location I would've been looking had the game not overruled me, and captured. I get that they have a story they want to tell, but if that story requires the PC to be incompetent, maybe don't.
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Phosphine posted:This is a thing i really hate in games. Cutscene incompetence or the game just cheating really annoys me. Set an actual trap that will trick the player, and take "they might be winning" into account. Especially when they have the character that just "beat" you proceed to talk poo poo about how much better than you they are. The recent Miles Morales game I found particularly guilty of this, annoying since I otherwise really enjoyed the game. As for Fallen Order, am I forgetting or apart from bounty hunters showing up every so often is there any other impact to the weird side-adventure in the fighting arena to the actual game? When I played it felt incredibly detached from the rest of the game and mostly like an either abandoned subplot or an attempt to stretch out the playtime. I felt they could have accomplished much the same with a single cutscene of one of the Inquisitors putting out a bounty on Cal and we'd have ended up with the exact same result.
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I've been replaying this one and the whole Dark Side = Empire thing is getting to me. "My mentor was tortured by Space Nazis into giving up my position, leading them to torture me in turn. She was morally wrong to give in to the despicable Space Nazis, therefore my only option was to become a Space Nazi in order to kill her"
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Mar 19, 2023 11:08
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Yeah the frequency and speed at which people go full space Nazi in star wars has increased exponentially over the years. Anakin was given three whole movies and even that was pretty fast once it got going.
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Mar 19, 2023 12:18
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All it takes is a single heated gamer moment. Just like real life.
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Even though the gameplay in an actual From game like Elden Ring is objectively better than the gameplay in Jedi Fallen Order, I think the main reason I enjoy the latter more is that fights against non-boss mobs are more relaxed and the environments generally feel less oppressive to traverse. I always burn out on From games because it's just mentally exhausting traversing their areas. I think some people enjoy that tension, but I don't. Which is a shame, because I'd love to play a game with less tense level/world traversal (and a less dour/depressing setting in general), but boss fights like in Sekiro.
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...! posted:The trophy doesn't require you to counterattack the thing with a kick. You don't have to time it or anything. Let one kick you and then kick it one time at literally any point before you kill it. It's a pretty easy trophy. There's a spot on the first planet where 4-5 bug enemies spawn, you can get it fairly easily there.
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...! posted:The trophy doesn't require you to counterattack the thing with a kick. You don't have to time it or anything. Let one kick you and then kick it one time at literally any point before you kill it. It's a pretty easy trophy. I know this but the kick is so finicky and missing it means getting hit and I'm playing on hard so it's just not happening, I'm not even gonna try to get the 'kick an enemy to death without any lightsaber attacks' one because lol For the three enemies I actually got it accidentally in the swamps of Dathomir in one of the spots where 4-5 witches rush you, but having the extended range + extra lightsaber damage buff probably helped
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Wolfsheim posted:I know this but the kick is so finicky and missing it means getting hit and I'm playing on hard so it's just not happening, I'm not even gonna try to get the 'kick an enemy to death without any lightsaber attacks' one because lol
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Wolfsheim posted:I'm not even gonna try to get the 'kick an enemy to death without any lightsaber attacks' one because lol Basic stormtroopers have a very easily dodged melee attack that makes it pretty simple; just hold block and slowly walk towards them until they try it
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Okay the kick trophy was actually pretty easy once I got the timing down. I also toyed with the idea of going for the platinum until I realized how incredibly tedious getting the last couple of chests/etc in places like the Zeffo tombs/Kashyyyk swamps would be. Anyway, that is a wrap on Fallen Order! I did bounce around the planets a bit to see a few of the crew conversations, and there is a lot of little "let's do X after all this is over" which made me wonder if they'll follow up on any of it in the sequel. Here's the last of me messing around in photo mode:  I actually like Cal's little Order 66 flashback, but until I saw this I completely forgot that Lucas took the 'Luke has an impromptu training session with a helmet and targeting ball thing' and made it canon that all padawans use the exact same setup lol  I almost completely forgot about Ilum outside of 'you get the pink lightsaber in some ice' but no, it's a whole-rear end level. Its not bad!   As soon as I grabbed Merrin I bee-lined to the crashed clone wars ship, which is definitely the best part of Zeffo and one of the only really strong levels outside of the beginning and ending. I'm glad to see they're incorporating more clone wars stuff in the sequel, you can only fight the same imperial security droid so many times before you're over it.  I also forgot you meet a Zeffo (Zeffonian? Zeffer?) in a dream sequence because their whole thing is extremely forgettable. If they wanted to do an ancient empire that was a repository of lost knowledge but also had slavery they should have just gone with the Ratakan unless KOTOR stuff was off-limits for some reason.   Despite my misgivings I do really love the final level. Tearing through wave after wave of imperials in basically a straight line is extremely satisfying. Even if the middle is muddled its a game that starts strong and ends strong which is good enough! Also while going through the Trilla -> Vader sequence I realized that the reason the Obi Wan show was so bad was that it was basically a watered-down version of the inquisitors' plotline from Fallen Order. Bonus: whenever you beat the game the trophy screenshot looks like a freeze frame old sitcoms would do when they end on a laugh line:  "Greez! Tacos again?"
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I haven't played it in quite a while now, all that's reminding me that it's still a good looking game. Wolfsheim posted:
Ok, maybe more just the outdoors stuff 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F6YBwIPzmk Merrin kicking rear end and Greez giving great hugs confirmed
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Mar 20, 2023 17:08
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Dammit we all should have been balls-deep in this game over the weekend.
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Mar 20, 2023 17:14
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gently caress yeah, Cal and Merrin team attacks!
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Jose Oquendo posted:Dammit we all should have been balls-deep in this game over the weekend. Oh man, I forgot about that. What a one-two punch that would've been - Jedi Survivor last weekend and Resident Evil 4 this coming one 
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I mean listen if they got an extra 6 weeks to work on it, it probably needed itPunkBoy posted:gently caress yeah, Cal and Merrin team attacks! Also whoever jetpack mcdoubleblaster is team attack looks like
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I liked the guy's knock-off Kylo Ren saber I kind of assume the Coruscant part will be the intro and not a full-fledged planet, kind of like the scrapyard was in the first game, because my dreams of a GTA-like set there will never come to fruition Still have half a mind to wait for a sale or reviews since a Metroidvania going open world can be a real clunky transition but it does look good
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It's great to see Merrin, and even better to see Merrin in action, but her bit of fighting looked like a cutscene. I hope there's more to it.
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Madurai posted:It's great to see Merrin, and even better to see Merrin in action, but her bit of fighting looked like a cutscene. I hope there's more to it. It's likely in-combat, where you get a little cinematic for team attacks to make sure they go off without a hitch - similar thing happens with the scoundrel character earlier on in the trailer Which means there's going to be lots of funny screenshots and videos of characters attacking from inside walls or falling into the void
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So we know there's team-up attacks. have they said how they actually work? Do those characters only show up on particular planets/locations? Can you swap them out either on the ship or meditation points? Do they have skill trees?
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Jose Oquendo posted:So we know there's team-up attacks. have they said how they actually work? Do those characters only show up on particular planets/locations? Can you swap them out either on the ship or meditation points? Do they have skill trees? There's some things that can be inferred from IGN's videos, where the game devs talk about a push-and-pull system, where you use the lightsaber to gain ammo, which fuels the blaster or (potentially) team attacks, sorta like how attacking was how you regained Force in the first game And yes, the allies have skill trees, as does each stance They only say that the partners will join you on certain missions, so they might be (hopefully initially?) planet-locked
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I want to see Merrin trolling enemies by spamming emotes.
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Not gonna lie, Westernised Merrin would get it.
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Happier than I should be that Merrin is back Also: wow Cere looks cool
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I wasn't even Sure that was Cere, she looks younger
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When does this take place? I know it's still before Yavin.
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The stuff Merrin is saying about the flame is actually her force ghost trying to convince Cal to not seek revenge for her death (because she is dead). The clips of her are from before her death in the game's first act.
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Somehow, Merrin has returned.
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Jose Oquendo posted:When does this take place? I know it's still before Yavin. Five years after the first one which was...tennish years after Ep III? There's a 20 year gap between III and IV, right? I forget how old Luke is supposed to be.
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19 or 20, depending on who's counting.
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Jose Oquendo posted:When does this take place? I know it's still before Yavin. Fallen Order was 5 years after Revenge of the Sith, and Survivor is 5 years after FO.
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Survivor is roughly contemporaneous with Solo and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Survivor is roughly contemporaneous with Solo and Obi-Wan Kenobi. Do you think the weirdo pale guy inquisitors from Obi Wan talk about how weird it is that all the human women inquisitors keep turning good and then being killed by Darth Vader
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Survivor is roughly contemporaneous with Solo and Obi-Wan Kenobi. I wonder if there ever was a version of the story where Bode was Lando or Han Solo
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In game 3 Cal Kestis and Kyle Katarn will team up to steal the Death Star plans, making the 66th successful attempt at doing so and bringing balance to the Force.
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Pwnstar posted:In game 3 Cal Kestis and Kyle Katarn will team up to steal the Death Star plans, making the 66th successful attempt at doing so and bringing balance to the Force.
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One thing I do hope is that they don't kill Cal. I'm kinda meh on the notion that all the Jedi have to be dead by the time New Hope rolls around. There were supposed to be like ten thousand of them in the galaxy. It's okay for a few of them to hang on in the margins rather than killing off decent characters for the sake of some dumb canon ruling.
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We already know Ahsoka and Ezra both survive, so it's not impossible that Cal may have too.
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