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StashAugustine posted:We've blamed 9/11 on basically every country in the middle east except Saudi Arabia didn’t we give Jordan a pass because we knew someone had to take in all the refugees from Iraq
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JustFollowingOrder posted:placeholder for a former president's arrest is this the guy who is threatening to sue the forums for 1st amdendment violations?
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# ? Mar 21, 2023 23:23 |
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Al! posted:is this the guy who is threatening to sue the forums for 1st amdendment violations? lol yeah i thought it was unoriginal name so i wasnt gunna snitch
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# ? Mar 21, 2023 23:24 |
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i wouldnt even snitch on insane legal guy
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# ? Mar 21, 2023 23:35 |
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Xaris posted:lol yeah they usually have better usernames
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crepeface posted:idk but here's a guy that's still around: anyone know why a guy who seems to pride himself on being a heinrich himmler jr. when it comes to architecting the speed of the iraqi genocide is allowed to post on this forum?
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 00:40 |
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How long will it take to capture Baghdad? 2 days Will Saddam be killed? Yes Total Iraqi civillian casualties: 500 dead Total military casualties Iraq: 3000 dead Total military casualties U.S.: 15 dead Will the Iraqi army regulars hold the lines? No Will the Republican Guard fight to the end? No Will chem/bio weapons be used on invading troops?: Yes Will Saddam launch attacks on the Kurds? Yes Will Saddam launch attacks on Israel? No -If yes; will Isreal retaliate harshly? Yes Will Saddam sacrifice Baghdad (gas/nuke it)? No Will the Kurds make a grab for independence? Yes Will Iran do anything silly like try for land? Yes Will Saddam burn the oil fields? Yes How long will the US be occupying Iraq? ~15 years Will the Iraq war catalyze increased terrorism in America?No In the long run, will this war be good or bad for the world? Good We have to look at what those civilian casualties are- just because they're civilian doesn't make them innocent! Lets take a look at a few possibilities: 1) A civilian walking down the street to market gets killed by a cruise missile fired at the market. 2) A civilian asleep in their house is killed when their house is targetting by a smart bomb and blown up. OK, these two are regrettable innocents being killed- but since the US doesn't make a habit of targetting markets or houses, they're very small in number! 3) A civilian working at a chemical weapon factory gets killed when the chemical weapon plant is bombed. 4) A civilian security guard at a weapons depot is killed when the weapons explode. 5) A civilian contractor repairing a tank is killed by a MOAB dropped on the unit. 6) A civilian engineer is killed when the military command center he works at is destroyed. 7) A civilian delivering snackiecakes to the baghdad bunker vending machines eats a 5,000lb bunker buster. etc, etc. The list goes on. My point is that there are a lot of civilians directly supporting the military that aren't exactly "innocent" and would be mire rightly counted among the military casualties than civilian. I'm a civilian and work for the US military, but I acknowledge I'm also a valid military target because of what I do. And I think the vast majority of civilian casualties in this campaign will not be innocent.
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yellowcar posted:How long will it take to capture Baghdad? 2 days This was Grover, btw. He of the famous Groverhaus.
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gosh way to spoil the fun
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Zeroisanumber posted:This was Grover, btw. He of the famous Groverhaus. are you saying that wasn't a joke post? I always thought it was lol are you gonna tell me that barack obama growing as tall as an oak tree post is real too??
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Vomik posted:are you saying that wasn't a joke post? I always thought it was lol buddy
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Vomik posted:are you saying that wasn't a joke post? I always thought it was lol I wish I could explain the perfectly smooth evolution of VA military contractor brain that was Grover. He was like if you created a guy who was so blinkered in his worldview and detatched from the death and bloodshed that his politics necessitated that you'd swear he had some sort of schizoid disorder, but he was actually quite normal when he talked about other stuff.
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Zeroisanumber posted:but he was actually quite normal when he talked about other stuff. you know about the house he built right
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indigi posted:you know about the house he built right We all know about the house.
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If I was permabanned I simply wouldn't get caught on a rereg
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i remember reading a lot of grover posting in GiP and i recall him always being a wierdo
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A Bakers Cousin posted:i remember reading a lot of grover posting in GiP and i recall him always being a wierdo are you a troop
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ScrubLeague posted:i got a 3 day ban from reddit for posting "happy 20th anniversary of the invasion of iraq, death to america" in the shitpost thread for last night's baseball game lol
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 01:03 |
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i was probably the most troopest of the goon troops lol
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don’t post trump thread anywhere else
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A Bakers Cousin posted:i was probably the most troopest of the goon troops lol lol dumbass
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correct
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 01:05 |
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grover was a civilian contractor that was never in the military and he insisted that he be respected like a troop lmao
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 01:13 |
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iirc he also tried to pull rank on someone in GiP lmao
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 01:14 |
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i think you all mean major grover
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AnimeIsTrash posted:i think you all mean major grover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-5eFkq6XEs
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Zeroisanumber posted:I was 12 when the Gulf War kicked off. From then on it was a drum beat in popular and political culture that Saddam was a bad guy who led a brutal government which murdered and oppressed his people. Literally had movies where he was the Big Bad. It was conventional wisdom across the political spectrum that he was cheating on the weapon inspections and had stashes of gas hidden somewhere. Then 9/11 happened and everyone lost their loving mind. Invading Iraq got this sense of inevitability about it, Like even if Saddam wasn't responsible (and a lot of people were fooled into thinking that he did) he was still a bad guy and after 9/11 we couldn't just let bad guys hang around out there because then 9/11 part deux might happen. I remember 9/11 and the years after it very well. I also remember thinking and saying at the time that the invasions would just make things worse and that Saddam didn't have WMD. Everyone around me said I was an idiot child who needed to Grow Up. Well I may have been an idiot child, but I was still dead on in my predictions of what was going to happen and it was the great mass of reasoned adults, respected journalists, and foreign policy thinkers who were categorically wrong. Didn't do me a drat bit of good. And everyone who screamed the loudest for war got praise from the public, esteem from their peers, and rewarded by society. The people who totally blew the call on Iraq and Afghanistan are still out there, entirely untainted, and still making a great living and enjoying life.
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Weka posted:What's wrong with her? Former Austrian Foreign Minister who was recently on the Board of Directors for Rosneft and blogged for RT. She's also said some nasty poo poo about refugees and was really popular with the FPÖ nazis for that reason. Putin attended her wedding.
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SplitSoul posted:Former Austrian Foreign Minister who was recently on the Board of Directors for Rosneft and blogged for RT. She's also said some nasty poo poo about refugees and was really popular with the FPÖ nazis for that reason. Putin attended her wedding. I wouldn't really be jazzed to have Putin at my wedding but if Xi showed up I would know that I was doing a good job at life.
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Zeroisanumber posted:I wouldn't really be jazzed to have Putin at my wedding but if Xi showed up I would know that I was doing a good job at life. Not saying she's wrong, just that she's hardly impartial, and a real piece of poo poo besides.
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fanfic insert posted:its kind of extremely funny that the US preemptively declared war on the netherlands just in case they'd get in their head they could accuse americans of war crimes in iraq and everyone in europe just grumbled about it for a little bit and then never mentioned it again https://www.hrw.org/news/2002/08/03/us-hague-invasion-act-becomes-law never heard about this lmbo
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Zeroisanumber posted:I wouldn't really be jazzed to have Putin at my wedding but if Xi showed up I would know that I was doing a good job at life. I would hope putin shows up to my wedding, after all I'm getting married to him
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lol that they still had the dignity for collars and buttons rather than Velcro pajamas
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big dong wanter posted:I would hope putin shows up to my wedding, after all I'm getting married to him goongrats
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SplitSoul posted:Former Austrian Foreign Minister who was recently on the Board of Directors for Rosneft and blogged for RT. She's also said some nasty poo poo about refugees and was really popular with the FPÖ nazis for that reason. Putin attended her wedding. short of the russia stuff, it just sounds like any other euro elite. what level of nasty poo poo did she say? like was it PM of italy bad or ukranians talking about roma bad?
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crepeface posted:short of the russia stuff, it just sounds like any other euro elite. what level of nasty poo poo did she say? like was it PM of italy bad or ukranians talking about roma bad? quote:On the issue of refugees, migration, and integration she was also accused of serving stereotypes. At the height of the refugee crisis in 2015, Kneissl pointed out that most of them are economic migrants and that asylum seekers are "80 percent" young men between the ages of 20 and 30. In September 2015, she said on public television that one of the reasons for the revolts in the Arab world was "these many young men", "testosterone-controlled", "who no longer managed to get a wife today" because they have neither work nor their own home, and thus could not achieve "status as a man in a traditional society". FPÖ considered nominating her for president. The party was literally founded by a high-ranking member of the SS. This is how they present themselves today: https://www.facebook.com/arno.cincelli/posts/pfbid0y3sMPD4LyhfMnHSSnv4XjFbRkutCkz2xnCWrqQnXyh5VW8qi4k2BGXzaNHD97pbHl
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2L4jcVqo8s
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i supported the iraq war at the time and i still do
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