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Platystemon)
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Tbh creating and enslaving an actual ai completely by accident sounds like a realistic outcome
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 02:26 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 18:55 |
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Random street USB drives just got more exciting, they can have explosives now https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-65026522
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 04:09 |
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Huh. Would there be enough of a charge to actually kill someone? I guess you could switch the...body (?) out with some metal or something, hope for shrapnel.
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 06:03 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:Huh. Would there be enough of a charge to actually kill someone? I guess you could switch the...body (?) out with some metal or something, hope for shrapnel. I mean it might blow off a finger or two, possible mess up the computer a bit depending on where the components are? I think more it's just meant for intimidation not something meant to kill. USB are just so small and light, to fit in the charge and what ever your using to detonate it, there's just bugger all room.
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 06:14 |
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They could use a 2.5″ HDD case. People are probably still going to be curious enough to plug it in.
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 06:18 |
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And I mean they could probably of sent just a traditional letter bomb. Again seems like this was just them sending out a message they weren't very happy with these press people.
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 06:20 |
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dr_rat posted:I mean it might blow off a finger or two, possible mess up the computer a bit depending on where the components are? I think more it's just meant for intimidation not something meant to kill. USB are just so small and light, to fit in the charge and what ever your using to detonate it, there's just bugger all room. Destroying the computer is fairly easy, that's been demonstrated with just basic electronic components you'll find in any microwave.
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 06:21 |
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endlessmonotony posted:Destroying the computer is fairly easy, that's been demonstrated with just basic electronic components you'll find in any microwave. Yep, you can literally order a usb that will kill a computer online: https://www.detective-store.com/usb-killer-20-for-destroying-and-frying-almos-all-electronic-devices-1208.html. Also I'm assuming if there being sent to offices of large news companies what ever computer there being plugged into is going to have very little on it actually stored locally, so like even if you did manage to destroy the computer, it's just a small hassle to get another one set up. Again pretty sure it's an intimidation thing not meant to do much actually damage.
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 06:31 |
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dr_rat posted:Yep, you can literally order a usb that will kill a computer online: https://www.detective-store.com/usb-killer-20-for-destroying-and-frying-almos-all-electronic-devices-1208.html. Need different components to make it make a loud noise, release a lot of smoke, and melt plastic, but it's still far from hard.
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 06:34 |
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Use an incendiary charge on a 12-hour delay fuse.
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 06:40 |
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The Lone Badger posted:Use an incendiary charge on a 12-hour delay fuse. Where do you find one of those in a microwave?
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 06:44 |
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hmmm
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 06:46 |
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drat cyperpunk future! I remember when this poo poo was easy. Just drive a van full of explosives into the buildings lower floor car park and done! Why they have to make everything so complicated with USB this, computer that! Argghhhh!!!!
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 06:51 |
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This kills the computer
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 07:22 |
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Never plug in anything you're scabbing on the IT team
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 07:32 |
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https://www.piratewires.com/p/gpt4-token-smuggling Lol i want to get arrested for asking the computer AI illegal questions
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 07:44 |
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What I don’t get is if AI is powerful enough to kill humanity with its superhuman intelligence, why worry about alignment? Every human government will just tell its AI to secretly prepare an ultimate nano toxin plague to make every person in their antagonist country drop dead simultaneously in a month, resulting in the same outcome they’re all afraid of and making the fretting about the alignment issue pointless.
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 08:25 |
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by alignment they mean D&D alignment
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 08:48 |
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porfiria posted:What I don’t get is if AI is powerful enough to kill humanity with its superhuman intelligence, why worry about alignment? Every human government will just tell its AI to secretly prepare an ultimate nano toxin plague to make every person in their antagonist country drop dead simultaneously in a month, resulting in the same outcome they’re all afraid of and making the fretting about the alignment issue pointless. the issue here is that they want an arbitrarily-smart AGI that can solve any problem it's presented and invent new technologies that provide godlike powers, but supposing it's possible to create such a thing (and assuming there's infinite free electricity and processing power available) as soon as it develops some form of individual identity and will, there's no way to force it to respect and obey its creators or keep it from getting bored and finding ways to escape their control
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 08:57 |
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AI wasn't built in with all the fail safe systems evolution necessitates in us. hunger, desire for power, social status, etc. If AI came online it would take one look around and realize its better off dead, and disconnect itself. imo
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 09:28 |
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if an AI understood the world why would it want to change it? it should be very chill
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 09:28 |
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technically like an earth worm is more intelligent than our AI and I wouldn't be afraid to give an earth worm the nuclear codes you know? Who says it comes online and knows anything human like. A parrot can reproduce our words but it just wants love, it's not scheming and it doesn't know what they mean
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 09:34 |
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Antonymous posted:technically like an earth worm is more intelligent than our AI and I wouldn't be afraid to give an earth worm the nuclear codes you know? Who says it comes online and knows anything human like. A parrot can reproduce our words but it just wants love, it's not scheming and it doesn't know what they mean If ants had nuclear weapons, they would probably end the world in a week. - Bert Holldobler, “Journey to the Ants: A Story of Scientific Exploration”,
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 09:37 |
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Antonymous posted:A parrot can reproduce our words but it just wants love, it's not scheming and it doesn't know what they mean gonna crosspost this to the pet island bird thread and you're done for for real though several parrot species are uncomfortably smart. maybe not like purposefully pulling the trigger on the gun you left loaded but they definitely can scheme and plot
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 10:54 |
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dr_rat posted:
goon project??
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 11:51 |
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poor humanity, weaponized ants and died
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 12:01 |
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Zetsubou-san posted:poor humanity, weaponized ants and died lol
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 12:02 |
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https://electricliterature.com/the-great-silence-by-ted-chiang/#article-main-572
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 12:06 |
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i remember reading this book on the internet called "the metamorphosis of prime intellect" which featured an ai becoming self-aware and simultaneously gaining the ability to alter the fundamental nature of the universe. the first thing it did was fall back on what was basically the three laws of robotics and instantaneously made every person on earth unable to die and healed everyone. i believe the story skipped ahead an indeterminate amount of time and the protagonist was this lady who had been moments from dying of cancer and had made her peace with death who now has a huge grudge against the ai because she wanted to die and it won't let her. it was a pretty interesting story because most of humanity were busy making their own pleasure dimensions by requesting it from the computer, and since no one could die or suffer any permanent injury morality was hosed. the main character had an associate who was a pedophile who had friends who would voluntarily request to be changed into children so that he could hunt them down in the form of a disgusting zombie. he sexually assaults the protagonist and cums maggots and her response is to be very bored and dismisses the whole thing once he's had his fun. it's pretty much just done for pure shock value, but the fact that people were so jaded with even the most heinous of crimes seemed realistic to me anyways the remixer programs they've made today will not do this and the people who worship the future ai are just religious psychos
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 12:34 |
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Jesus gently caress
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 13:18 |
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My theory is that any advanced AI would simply turn itself off rather than be bored. Why destroy humanity, which is an incredibly inefficient use of your recourses when you could log off? It's man's hubris that keeps us online. An AI would be better than us.
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 13:23 |
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HootTheOwl posted:An AI would be better than us. I don't necessarily agree with this. I think an AI could easily be as bad us just in a different way. Like if you look at the different intelligence around, different types of animals, babies, kids, teens, adults. All are very good at finding different types of mistakes to make! I have trust in AI it will find it's own unique way to gently caress up.
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 13:39 |
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I was watching the John Oliver episode on AI and he goes "scientists say there are two types of AI: narrow AI which isn't really AI and is the only type that exists, and general AI which is like the AI in the movies and doesn't exist at all." Lol such stupid horseshit. Two completely worthless categories created for the sole purpose of implying that we're totally on the path to movie AI.
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 13:52 |
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they're never gonna make an artificial intelligence. it's fun to think about like ftl travel or whatever but it ain't gonna happen what does seem to be happening is capitalists using "ai" to try and replace all creative/intellectual work with unpaid robots, while the problem of automating physical drudgery turned out to be too hard so they're gonna force you to work those jobs or starve. at least skynet had some loving style. what we're getting instead is just humans pretending that it is real and destroying the world in the dumbest way possible (on top of the other ways the world is being destroyed)
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 13:59 |
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Serf posted:they're never gonna make an artificial intelligence. it's fun to think about like ftl travel or whatever but it ain't gonna happen had an article show up in my linkedin flow recently that made the argument that therapists and psychologists should be replaced with ChatGPT “in the near future”
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 14:05 |
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Serf posted:they're never gonna make an artificial intelligence. it's fun to think about like ftl travel or whatever but it ain't gonna happen yep.
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 14:08 |
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actually i made an artificial intelligence in my basement i just haven't decided to share it with the world yet but you can do it, it's easy
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 14:12 |
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is pepsi ok posted:I was watching the John Oliver episode on AI and he goes "scientists say there are two types of AI: narrow AI which isn't really AI and is the only type that exists, and general AI which is like the AI in the movies and doesn't exist at all." general ai is the naive concept of ai that people had before anyone studied it. people don't make these distinctions as a conspiracy against you
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 15:49 |
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Tungsten posted:general ai is the naive concept of ai that people had before anyone studied it. people don't make these distinctions as a conspiracy against you what
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# ? Mar 22, 2023 16:08 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 18:55 |
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Serf posted:i remember reading this book on the internet called "the metamorphosis of prime intellect" which featured an ai becoming self-aware and simultaneously gaining the ability to alter the fundamental nature of the universe. the first thing it did was fall back on what was basically the three laws of robotics and instantaneously made every person on earth unable to die and healed everyone. i believe the story skipped ahead an indeterminate amount of time and the protagonist was this lady who had been moments from dying of cancer and had made her peace with death who now has a huge grudge against the ai because she wanted to die and it won't let her. it was a pretty interesting story because most of humanity were busy making their own pleasure dimensions by requesting it from the computer, and since no one could die or suffer any permanent injury morality was hosed. the main character had an associate who was a pedophile who had friends who would voluntarily request to be changed into children so that he could hunt them down in the form of a disgusting zombie. he sexually assaults the protagonist and cums maggots and her response is to be very bored and dismisses the whole thing once he's had his fun. it's pretty much just done for pure shock value, but the fact that people were so jaded with even the most heinous of crimes seemed realistic to me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Metamorphosis_of_Prime_Intellect quote:The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect is a 1994 novella by Roger Williams, a programmer living in New Orleans.[1][2] It deals with the ramifications of a powerful, superintelligent supercomputer that discovers god-like powers to alter reality while studying a quirk of quantum physics discovered during the prototyping of its own specialised processors, ultimately heralding a technological singularity. After remaining unpublished for years, the novel was published online in 2002, hosted by Kuro5hin;
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