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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


indigi posted:

why will it take 6 months to get the tanks there

the postal service sucks rear end now

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Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Jazerus posted:

putin to institute a battle pass with cosmetic rewards

"gently caress, it looks like I have to defeat 20 Ukrainian soldiers with throwing knives this week, this is going to suck"

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

tanks in the mail, zel!

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 13 minutes!

Lord of Pie posted:

the postal service sucks rear end now

it always has gently caress ben gibbard

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Endman posted:

Like, don’t get me wrong, if the results are the same it’s just as bad. I just think the term includes a level of intentionality, that you’re deliberately trying to exterminate an ethnic group.

It’s one of the reasons there’s so much debate over the Holodomor; if it’s going to be considered a genocide there needs to be established intent on behalf of the Soviet government to inflict that harm directly and for the reason of ethnic cleansing.

I think the massive outpouring of food aid, far in excess of food exports (which were also drastically cut), as the scope of the famine became clear to central planning should put the genocide claims to rest, not to mention the famine brutalized every ethnic group including Russians. The UK tries to make the same claim about the Bengal famine - that the administration simply wasnt aware of the scope and moved to provide relief as it came into focus - but the difference is the entire Soviet state was barely a decade old and built largely from scratch whereas the Raj was nearly a hundred years old.

You could make a shaky claim that it was an intentional attempt to kill off rural populations and force workers into the expanding cities, but the Soviets had no problems with just relocating people through direct action, why take such a massive risk on indirect action?

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

euphronius posted:

can anyone explain how the nyt does not see these issues to be related



what does “instead of” there mean ??

lmao, containment is just recycled Cold War doctrine. Everything old is new again.

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1638631091924787202?s=20

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

indigi posted:

why will it take 6 months to get the tanks there

they had to find a specialist pinstriper to put the necessary markings on em first

its a dying art u know

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

I think it may have been a mistake to have so much of this tied to him personally

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Frosted Flake posted:

I think it may have been a mistake to have so much of this tied to him personally

You say that like it was planned but I think he just decided his time to shine had come and the Americans just leaned into it cause they love them a good personal brand

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Strikes me as more of a Kamala Harris situation where they're just kind of running with what they've got rather than thinking they're working with a winner

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

They got an actual actor in the big seat for a war that hinges entirely on looking good for western media. They could not have been more lucky

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Mandoric posted:

NHK World is the full pivot to tourism and Cool Japan one, NHK proper still lowkey thinks it's the BBC. Not they're in bad company, the BBC still lowkey thinks it's the BBC for some reason.

The sumo ends as of Sunday, though, while the baseball runs until the 31st. And no one's playing Katyusha as a fight song for the wrestlers, while Tokoha High busted it out. (Lost to the second-most-inspired band director at the tournament, whose signature pick was FF5's Battle on the Big Bridge.)

the few times i stay in hotels i put on NHK because of all the sumo matches, it rules

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void



let 100 flowers bloom

supersnowman
Oct 3, 2012

Egg Moron posted:



let 100 flowers bloom

I wonder if those units might have a different view of the fighting because they are different type of unit. It's just a picture but the equipment seem to be a bit different. Top picture seem to have no armored vest, no helmet and no fancy stuff attached to whatever they are wearing while the bottom has all of that.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

lol every time I see those Canadian Army toques jfc

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

waiting for joe biden to visit a gas station

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Nix Panicus posted:

I think the massive outpouring of food aid, far in excess of food exports (which were also drastically cut), as the scope of the famine became clear to central planning should put the genocide claims to rest, not to mention the famine brutalized every ethnic group including Russians. The UK tries to make the same claim about the Bengal famine - that the administration simply wasnt aware of the scope and moved to provide relief as it came into focus - but the difference is the entire Soviet state was barely a decade old and built largely from scratch whereas the Raj was nearly a hundred years old.

You could make a shaky claim that it was an intentional attempt to kill off rural populations and force workers into the expanding cities, but the Soviets had no problems with just relocating people through direct action, why take such a massive risk on indirect action?

I completely agree that the Holodomor wasn't a genocide. There's no evidence of intent to kill Ukrainians specifically and I doubt there ever will be.

The term "genocide" is bandied around a lot as a catch-all term for mass killing when it has a very specific definition that includes the intent to destroy a large (usually ethnic) group of people. I'm actually studying under a Medieval History professor at the moment who is apoplectic that other historians keep calling things that aren't genocides, genocides. He's currently extremely mad that people are calling the Crusades a genocide, which makes next to no sense when you realise how many Arabs, Armenians, etc. were present in the armies of the Crusaders.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 13 minutes!
just did a genocide in the bathroom

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

The crusades were a giant grift/shakedown weren't they

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin
holodumpmor

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin

Slavvy posted:

The crusades were a giant grift/shakedown weren't they

the history of the commonly used financial instrument "trusts" started during the crusades so checks out

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

Endman posted:

I completely agree that the Holodomor wasn't a genocide. There's no evidence of intent to kill Ukrainians specifically and I doubt there ever will be.

The term "genocide" is bandied around a lot as a catch-all term for mass killing when it has a very specific definition that includes the intent to destroy a large (usually ethnic) group of people. I'm actually studying under a Medieval History professor at the moment who is apoplectic that other historians keep calling things that aren't genocides, genocides. He's currently extremely mad that people are calling the Crusades a genocide, which makes next to no sense when you realise how many Arabs, Armenians, etc. were present in the armies of the Crusaders.

is religicide a real term?

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Slavvy posted:

The crusades were a giant grift/shakedown weren't they

Parts of it were, especially what the Knights Templar turned into. For a lot of the Crusaders it was literally a "mission from God", and they thought they were doing the right thing. As with most significant historical events, it's really complicated.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


hmmm i see so what this person is saying is that the soviet union did a genocide

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

Some Guy TT posted:

hmmm i see so what this person is saying is that the soviet union did a genocide

certainly at least qualifies as a no growth

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

HiroProtagonist posted:

waiting for joe biden to visit a gas station

he shows up at gas stations all the time

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Vomik posted:

is religicide a real term?

I guess you could coin it, but the Crusades aren't really that either. I'm sure wiping out Islam was in the minds of some Crusaders, sure, but there wasn't a concerted effort to completely eliminate it by any of the major Crusading armies or the Latin States they created in the Levant after the First Crusade. As I'm sure you'd expect, the majority of the population in these Kingdoms were Arab Muslims, despite their Christian leadership.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

People project 16th centuries ideas of the state and religion back on the past, and so things like Normans ruling Greeks and Muslims in Sicily doesn't really make sense to them except as a simplified conquest, and that's even more true of the crusades which have passed into an everyday figure of speech.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

i somehow got the crazy idea that frosted flake looked like jeremy corbyn wearing military regalia and i dont really want to change that mental image

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Frosted Flake posted:

People project 16th centuries ideas of the state and religion back on the past, and so things like Normans ruling Greeks and Muslims in Sicily doesn't really make sense to them except as a simplified conquest, and that's even more true of the crusades which have passed into an everyday figure of speech.

Sicily and Southern Italy during the Medieval period is fascinating and I really need to read more about it. The interplay between Normans, Muslims, Italians and the Byzantine Empire makes for some fascinating history.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Endman posted:

Sicily and Southern Italy during the Medieval period is fascinating and I really need to read more about it. The interplay between Normans, Muslims, Italians and the Byzantine Empire makes for some fascinating history.

this but i want a youtube video not a book

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Some Guy TT posted:

i somehow got the crazy idea that frosted flake looked like jeremy corbyn wearing military regalia and i dont really want to change that mental image

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

all of u who called frosted flakes wife racist for disrespecting inuit mathematicians should be ashamed of yourselves now that we know she cant possibly be racist

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Some Guy TT posted:

i somehow got the crazy idea that frosted flake looked like jeremy corbyn wearing military regalia and i dont really want to change that mental image

It's aspirational. The man has swag.

To this whole history thing, I've come around to the idea that any historical concept that's in daily use as a figure of speech can't be easily explained to people who aren't interested in history. The French Revolution, American Revolution, Crusades, you name it, it's a lot of work to dissuade people of their idea, so when you hear them talk about "The Crusades", italicize it in your mind or something.

There's another rule in history that's a bit complicated. Everybody who sacks a famous city lies about how many people they kill and how much they actually looted. There's a bunch of reasons why, but the most simple is that it had propaganda value, both at the time and after, to say "this is what happens to traitors/infidels/people who don't submit to our mighty empire". When they say they killed all the men, it means men who could bear weapons within their societies, which usually means elites between 18-40, which is actually a small amount of people (and even then they didn't actually kill all of them but I digress). When they say they stole everything, there was a limit to how much people carry off. Beyond that, Usually soldiers were only allowed to loot for a very limited period of time because obviously the people who just became the new owners of the city would want business as usual to resume quickly.

There's more here than I can say particularly about religious tolerance (or not) in the levant after the Arab conquests and everything else, but keep in mind also that many of these areas were not majority Muslim until like the 1500s in some cases. The nobility of both sides knew they had to rule, and therefore extract taxes (and food) from a workforce that was mixed, and killing half of their workers was obviously a non starter. You can't tax people if they're dead.

Just to give you an example of what I mean when I said if a historical concept passes into daily use it can take on a meaning that's the near opposite of the thing itself, think of "Gladiator". Right, so, gladiators fought to the death right? That's why sports commentators say it, and it took place at the height of the Roman Empire, because that's why people talk about decadence and watching gladiators.

I'm sure you know this already, but after Spartacus, the Romans realized that it was no longer wise to concentrate in schools men who lived in slavery because of the Romans, and to make them experts in killing. From then on, it became obvious that it was necessary to vary the recruitment channels. If gladiatorialism was to last, the system had to change. While it continued to use many prisoners and convicts, gladiatorialism was now also open to volunteers: free men and freed men, but also slaves who wanted a career. It was therefore no longer possible for the vanquished to be put to death, otherwise there would be no more candidates. The authorities then imagined different levels of fighting, more or less dangerous, with rewards for the winners, in order to create emulation. Fighting to the death became the exception at the beginning of the Principate, as gladiatorialism evolved and became a sport.

Well that's no good as a figure of speech!

So, there are now two things. Gladiatores, the Campanian and Etruscan slaves who fought to the death during funerals as a ritual sacrifice, then the 3rd - 1st century Roman spectacle of prisoners of war fighting with the weapons and techniques of their defeated armies, like Gauls, Galli, then the professional athletes of the principate - and - Gladiators, whatever most people imagine that to be, which is inspired by, but far from, the above description.

Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 02:48 on Mar 23, 2023

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

there does appear to be some friction building between command and the ukranian soldiers in the field, esp when they do things like demote that guy who gave the interview to wapo

zelenskyy going to bakhmut is pretty crazy no?

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

What's the reasoning behind why Ukraine hasn't won total victory yet?

Every day the news is how they've won victories everywhere and killed every Russian invader. After a year of solidly winning everything you'd think they'd at least be at the at the Russian borders by now?

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely
we toured the Colosseum in Rome with a guide and what they related to us what that it was actually extremely rare for any gladiator to die in the Colosseum after the first couple months of it's existence.. I guess when it first opened up they would use the existing infrastructure (there was an artificial lake at the site prior to it becoming a public stadium) to flood the combat area and have mock naval battles.. events where highly valuable slaves who had never been on a boat or in water before were suited up with armor and put on boats they didn't really know how to operate and told to jump across to the other boats to fight and make it look exciting. Supposedly hundreds of them fell into the water and drowned during these events and the naval battles were discontinued after it became apparent how dangerous they were. Of course the slave owners didn't actually want these people they had put years and years of time and money into training to die, it was better if they put on an entertaining show that extoled the manly virtues of roman society, got the crowd onboard with the narrative, and then lived to fight again..

Kind of cast things in a different light than the movie for all of us

**oh and also the Roman Catholic Church forced the Roman government to install a giant gaudy cross on the floor of the Colosseum to represent the innocent Christian martyrs that were killed or tortured in the Colosseum, but that also probably didn't happen as all references to the act of Christians being executed by the Romans in the Colosseum date hundreds of years after the fact and are probably propaganda. I got a picture of me standing in front of the cross.

Starsfan has issued a correction as of 02:53 on Mar 23, 2023

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Turns out Americans who get huge slava ukraini tattoos as soon as they land in lviv aren't the most trustworthy freedom fighters
https://twitter.com/Navsteva/status/1638648181411160064

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paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
No wife, no Valor, very sad

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