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World War Mammories posted:nice av lol hosed up that gbs is seething mad at the forum's most premier genocide advocater
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the worst thing about the avatar is that means Wizard Master is going to obsessively follow you around with a boner in tow
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Xaris posted:the worst thing about the avatar is that means Wizard Master is going to obsessively follow you around with a boner in tow what
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Cuttlefush posted:what
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Xaris posted:the worst thing about the avatar is that means Wizard Master is going to obsessively follow you around with a boner in tow I kinda assumed he's the one gave me the av lol
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I didn't know wizard master was into genocide denial
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Cuttlefush posted:I didn't know wizard master was into genocide denial Then you don't know wizard master at all! dumbass!!
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im open to learn
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my bony fealty posted:Where did 6 million come from lol its actually a pretty incredible testament to the skill and power of the propagandists
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Soon it will be 7 million, making it the biggest genocide ever. No, those Russians the nazis killed don't count.
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just want to take a momnet to point out that, like the holodomor, the holodomor thread definitely happened, and it's time the sick freaks in gbs quit pretending both didnt
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Weka posted:Soon it will be 7 million, making it the biggest genocide ever. No, those Russians the nazis killed don't count. They want to build the monument larger than and in front of the Holocaust memorial. I don't see how they don't inflate the number to get past 6M.  The US WW2 Museum started to get into this literally the day the Ukraine War started, so expect to never hear about it again Now, here's the interesting thing - the vast majority of those bullets were not fired by Germans. A quarter of the Holocaust, minimum (because the same thing happened in Lithuania, where 90% of the Jewish population was killed) remains unexplained in narratives that omit that. A greater problem would be that at Baba Yar and elsewhere the killings were in progress before the Wehrmacht even arrived, let alone the Security Police and other administrators of the Final Solution. It makes sense to me that something larger needs to obscure this tragedy, hence Double Genocide, as you all know. But even within Double Genocide theory, they have created a dichotomy where the "implementation" of one, the famine, is clear, but not its motivation, and the motivation of the other is supposedly clear, but not its implementation. Even in the story they're telling, these can't be held up to be the same thing. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 16:01 on Mar 20, 2023 |
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Much like Stalin inflated himself with all that grain.
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continuing to remember the holodomor on this day
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Really, they have the problem of two competing audiences. Domestically, it's understood that the atrocities (and natural disasters) attributed to the Soviets were the Judeo-Bolsheviks' fault, and therefore the Holocaust was justified, but since they can't say that to western audiences, really the best they've produced is two unrelated (by their own explanations of cause and effect) bad things happened in a region. That's not really a coherent narrative. The most obvious tell is that the Ukrainian and Baltic nationalists, so far as I am aware, never say that the Holocaust is a bad thing that happened to them, as a nation. The famine was done to Ukraine and Ukrainians, the Holocaust...just happened? I don't know, I'm curious how far the mask slips now that western liberals are enraptured with Eastern European blood and soil nationalism.
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Frosted Flake posted:the atrocities (and natural disasters) attributed to the Soviets were the Judeo-Bolsheviks' fault, and therefore the Holocaust was justified i disagree
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my grandfather posted in that thread. it doesn't matter what side he posted on, it's a tragedy to this day.
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I say it happened, but I've never been one to go against the grain
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joseph stalin putting LET'S GET THIS BREAD signs all over the kremlin
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Frosted Flake posted:Really, they have the problem of two competing audiences. Domestically, it's understood that the atrocities (and natural disasters) attributed to the Soviets were the Judeo-Bolsheviks' fault, and therefore the Holocaust was justified, but since they can't say that to western audiences, really the best they've produced is two unrelated (by their own explanations of cause and effect) bad things happened in a region. That's not really a coherent narrative. they're too invested in either of these narratives to really let them go a sunk holo-cost fallacy
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drat sounds like genocide https://twitter.com/sopjap/status/1638483344060043264
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500 good dogs posted:drat sounds like genocide actually the US saved all of those people from communism with the help of the brave yeltsin https://valleysunderground.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/blackshirts-and-reds-by-michael-parenti.pdf
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quote:Even the Slovenian (quasi)Marxist Slavoj Žižek has dabbled in Stalin apologia, notoriously declaring “better the worst of Stalinism than the best of the liberal-capitalist welfare state" i'm going to brutally destroy the bow-tie dweeb
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1638580838337060891?t=jJyaosbJmIhBzKm9fewUhg&s=19 What a loving dweeb
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1638580838337060891?t=jJyaosbJmIhBzKm9fewUhg&s=19 quote:Among them are tenured academics like Dr. Asatar Bair, who recently annoyed Fox News by calling Stalin “one of the great leaders of the 20th century” who had “the strength to make tough decisions that have no easy answers.” taking the side of Fox News is leftist praxis. great job dem socs.
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quote:In the ongoing rivalry between the two powers, Stalin and his propagandists never missed a chance to slam the United States for its record on racial injustice, deploying the bitter phrase “А у вас негров линчуют” (“And you are lynching Negroes!”) whenever American diplomats criticized the USSR’s human rights abuses. This was, of course, a cynical ploy,
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that article feels ai generated, the writing is just too bad and trite to be real. its too shallow for anyone with a functional brain to have written. I refuse to accept it as real, unlike the holodomor.
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Stalin was worse than a “flawed” or “corrupted” communist. Rather—with the single exception of Hitler—he was the most lethal anticommunist of his time.
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:Stalin was worse than a “flawed” or “corrupted” communist. Rather—with the single exception of Hitler—he was the most lethal anticommunist of his time. Everyday I'm more convinced that taking the Chinese view on Mao is the only correct way to view Stalin
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:Stalin was worse than a “flawed” or “corrupted” communist. Rather—with the single exception of Hitler—he was the most lethal anticommunist of his time. That's a badass way to think and it reminds me of coaching high school debate lol
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Stalin was better, for having both convictions and the will to see them through, than Bernie, Corbyn or Warren by every metric that counts except feeding Ukrainians.
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lobster shirt posted:nathan gay robinson
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Frosted Flake posted:Stalin was better, for having both convictions and the will to see them through, than Bernie, Corbyn or Warren by every metric that counts except feeding Ukrainians. quote:Anyone who still uses the word 'tankie' or calls themselves a 'Democratic Socialist' should grow up and learn the lesson of Sanders and Corbyn: you can distance yourself from Communism and The Bad Socialists and Authoritarian Regimes, hollow out your politics to be as non-challenging as possible, squeeze yourself into the Overton window, play nice with imperialism, be the mildest of Social Democrats, etc, as much as you like—but if it looks for a moment like you might get near power, Capital will ratfuck you in a heartbeat all the same.
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everyone talks about how horrible Stalin was for the gulags and the famines but no one mentions he was checked into gulags three times in his youth and must've thought it was so good he wanted to share the experience sharing is caring
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some plague rats posted:I kinda assumed he's the one gave me the av lol Nice av, I wonder were the threads mocking genocides are? probably pet island
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