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I wouldn't class something that cuts oxygen supply to the brain as 'extremely safe' but that's not the point of the conversation. That however is through stupid use and not just one whippet. Guavanaut posted:They've addressed the actual problem of litter everywhere and lack of recycling. That's a better outcome than anything that Duffield was suggesting would have achieved. It hasn't though because now all I see is balloons and the larger canisters strewn about the place - just less of a mess but it's still there.
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Gort posted:Whose windows are open now, it's like ten degrees  Diet Crack posted:People have just moved on from small nitrous canisters to the larger bottle ones. They've done nothing to address the 'problem' other than making cream dispensers obsolete lmfao
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Diet Crack posted:I don't know what he's on about, there are no homes in Holborn, just broken dreams. Untrue, my folks live there. And there are actually several pretty big estates too- I used to work with a security guard who had a council flat there.
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Gort posted:Whose windows are open now, it's like ten degrees Anybody who doesn't love in a Victorian home and so has to deal with condensation all the time. Wild how poo poo British homes are tbh
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Camrath posted:Untrue, my folks live there. And there are actually several pretty big estates too- I used to work with a security guard who had a council flat there.  you're spoiling the narrative!
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Diet Crack posted:It hasn't though because now all I see is balloons and the larger canisters strewn about the place - just less of a mess but it's still there. Also pissed Rosie Duffield off, which counts as a moral or intrinsic good.
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MeinPanzer posted:Anyone else involved in the ongoing UCU (University and College Union) strike? If so, how’s it going for members at your institution? I have a family member in the union who is furious over the whole handling of the industrial action, convinced that the union has been co-opted by people who are more interested in their twitter followers than their members. More and more of the UCU's members at their branch are now secretly scabbing because they're just fed up with the whole thing. At least as they tell it, the union leadership has consistently favoured strikes over industrial actions short of a strike like work-to-rule because you can't put pictures of lecturers only marking exams during business hours up on social media, and that overrides concerns like "keeping everyone in the union onside" and "letting members get paid". A point they've made is that the UCU only works as a union if everyone sticks together, and like it or not a union made up of middle-class professionals does not have the same class interests as the urban proletariat or indeed the same power to withdraw their labour: Every day a factory is closed the capitalist loses profit and their customers, most of whom are other capitalists, get angry. Every day a university is closed, the work just piles up for the striking staff to clear down by putting in extra hours after the strike is done, any by and large because Students support their teachers, the university's customers don't get angry, or at least not in a way that threatens to cost the university money. In their view, the difficult truth is that the teaching and research staff of a university or college is not a nest of communists, it's a place where a lot of the people you're asking to strike are basically Tories or Lib Dems for whom an order to go on strike is followed only begrudgingly, and like it or not if you keep those people out on strike too long, or if you strike without appearing to have a plan, or if you appear to have no credible negotiating strategy, those people will just go back to work, which is a death sentence for the credibility of the union. How true that all is, I can't say, but that's a rough summation of the feelings they've shared with me. I haven't spoken to them though since this most recent deal. Reveilled fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Mar 23, 2023 |
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Guavanaut posted:It achieved about the best that you could expect from a change in product regulation, it significantly reduced the negative externalities of a product without significantly increasing any associated risk (health or legal). Yeah it is a marked improvement, I'll give it that. We did often have a problem with having to clean these canisters up when I worked at uni, bloody philosophy department. I still think this all boils down to values though, because you could realistically just put the spent carts back into the box (it's clear when they've been used as the top is punctured) and dispose of it rather than tossing them all up the street but hey ho. People don't give a poo poo about anything anymore here and I don't blame them.
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 UKMT Solidarity Fund Update, uhhh first quarter of 2023 I guess? Hey So to make up for being lax about the updates, I've done a few needed tidying-up things: - I've finished moving the anonymised payout information from the written record of activity (which was super cluttered) into a nice table in the data trends spreadsheet. It's not currently used for anything there but it does give us bonus potential for more granular data analysis. - I've retired the cumulative income and payouts graph, which was not especially informative, in favour of a new quarterly version of the monthly chart, as that's getting a bit large as the UKMT solidarity fund has now been around for 36 months, which is to say we are three years old this month!  Now some information regarding committee elections, which the astute among you may be aware should have happened back in January. We've actually been delaying those for a very good reason - the names on the paperwork for the Charity Commission application are those of the current committee members, and we don't want to have to redo that application at this stage! We're currently chasing it up because the application status as far as I know can be summed up as  It would be really nice if it got finished because we'd be able to start using PayPal for donations again. That would be good because we're running into some low-donation-to-payout-ratio issues again, and at the time of posting are dangerously close to dropping below £1000 balance for the first time ever. Sorry this is a bit disjointed, anyway this is your regular reminder that we exist and you should donate if you can afford it, or apply for funds if you're destitute. Here are some stats! January Stats:  February Stats:  Total donated to the fund as of end Feb: £22,812.87 Total paid out by the fund as of end Feb: £21,365.54 Monthly donations and payouts graph:  Quarterly version of the above:  UKMTSF Data Trends | Record of Activity | Constitution If you are someone that is in need, please get in contact. This fund is here to help you with whatever comes your way. If something is causing you stress, pain, worry or physical distress, please get in contact with us. Please do not go hungry or without something because you are of the belief that your pain is not important enough. Feel free to contact any of the committee if you would like to discuss an issue. All matters are treated in complete confidence. Donate: Bank Transfer - PM IrvingWashington (aka Bill Drummond on Discord) for account details Apply: Application Form Email Us PM: AceClown, Fargle (discord only), Maugrim, The DPRK or Tsietisin.
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You can't go anywhere in my town without being hit by the smell of the dankest nugs. It's great.
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Free Weed Free Broadband Free Amy Pritchard
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Gort posted:Whose windows are open now, it's like ten degrees My window had been closed for probably 12 days this year
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forkboy84 posted:I haven't played Warhammer 40K since before my voice broke (I had a Tyrannid army. I say had, I'm pretty sure it's still somewhere in my parents house. I know my 2nd edition codex is still there) but I keep up with the fiction to some degree because I'm a moron with bad taste & I find the way they've shaken up the status quo lately with actual Primarchs returning extremely interesting on at least a conceptual level. I don't know how that relates to the tabletop game but considering it had been mostly frozen in stasis like an Ultramarines Primarch for 30 years & now it's suddenly things are happening more than just "a Hive Fleet came in & was bad but was stopped" or "Abaddon did another Black Crusade & failed again". I don't think its set as canon, but every edition of WH40K is meant to advance their timeline on a bit. Edition 1 and 2 was at the start of the year 40,000. Edition 9 and 10 is nearing the year 41,000.
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smellmycheese posted:I see that Sir Keith has decided todays Labour crackdown is going to be on, erm, smells Returning to the miasma theory of disease and economic malaise.
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Pablo Bluth posted:Legalise weed but only as edibles. This is where I'm at. Alter your mental state with whatever you like, but if you're smoking anything in public, you have to do a lot in my eyes to not automatically qualify as a completely inconsiderate bastard.
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Reveilled posted:I have a family member in the union who is furious over the whole handling of the industrial action, convinced that the union has been co-opted by people who are more interested in their twitter followers than their members. More and more of the UCU's members at their branch are now secretly scabbing because they're just fed up with the whole thing. At least as they tell it, the union leadership has consistently favoured strikes over industrial actions short of a strike like work-to-rule because you can't put pictures of lecturers only marking exams during business hours up on social media, and that overrides concerns like "keeping everyone in the union onside" and "letting members get paid". That's basically how my partner sees it (I posted ITT, or the previous, about my very mixed feelings about her scabbing this whole time) Dabir posted:This is where I'm at. Alter your mental state with whatever you like, but if you're smoking anything in public, you have to do a lot in my eyes to not automatically qualify as a completely inconsiderate bastard. Didn't this whole argument start with people smoking in their houses?
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Reveilled posted:How true that all is, I can't say, but that's a rough summation of the feelings they've shared with me. I haven't spoken to them though since this most recent deal. The twitter point is very much something, the GS in particular is absolutely obsessed with twitter and will publish most of their messaging on there over actually passing it to members. They do like the strike mandates, but don't seem to know what to do with them, and have spent more time fussing around with who's on what negotiating team and what's going on there (it's not the leadership's job to do this, as it's meant to be up to the elected negotiators). It's very odd and as above, I don't fully understand why this is the case. I'm not sure about the rest though, it sounds like your family member just didn't want to strike and likely voted no (are they in a senior position with a contract of employment rather than fixed term one? This seems to be the dividing line). I do agree that there's a massive amount of in-union scabbing too, but again it's generally at the assistant professor level and above. ASOS isn't really anything as no one in a salaried position is entitled to overtime anyway, and the same argument about having to do the work at some point applies here. From working closely with leadership in other matters, it makes no impact upon University management thinking as workloads will remain unchanged whether in ASOS or not. The point about having to make up work is a really interesting one - this seems like something they personally need to get over, and understand that some work won't be performed or will be performed at a later date. From the perspective of someone handling the fallout of the last strikes, I really don't agree that it made no impact on the University or its bottom line - research and teaching didn't get performed, and the University is obliged to perform these tasks (as marketisation has cut both ways). Certainly in the past I'd agree with the idea that withdrawing labour did nothing for teaching, but post 1998 and in particular post 2010 a University is the same as any other company that provides a service for money and has the same responsibilities and losses that come from this (assuming the strikers can resist the pressure of unpaid overtime to make up the strike hours, which is kinda the point of a strike!).
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/roseschmits/status/1638867415265333248?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q So Labour membership: Incompatible with trans rights, socialism, anti-Israeli Apartheid, anti-war, what else?
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Dabir posted:This is where I'm at. Alter your mental state with whatever you like, but if you're smoking anything in public, you have to do a lot in my eyes to not automatically qualify as a completely inconsiderate bastard. This has different varying levels to it though. If I'm sitting in the middle of a park smoking with no one nearby vs. blowing it in the faces of cafe patrons then y'know, there's a point to be made. Barry Foster posted:Didn't this whole argument start with people smoking in their houses? Nah they were saying it was drifting into the windows
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Diet Crack posted:This has different varying levels to it though. If I'm sitting in the middle of a park smoking with no one nearby vs. blowing it in the faces of cafe patrons then y'know, there's a point to be made. Sure, but what I mean is that isn't smoking "in public" - so if people ITT are saying people shouldn't smoke in public, and people shouldn't smoke on their own property, then it seems that the gist is "ban smoking, full stop" (I'm making the same argument as you, really, just thought I'd make myself clear)
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to each their own though really, if someone came up to me and politely asked me to move on because of the smell if it was indeed wafting over to them and affecting them having a good time, I probably would. It's that simple usually. People who smoke weed tend to be quite reasonable people, funnily enough.
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If we're talking about both packaging that causes hazardous litter and drugs that can make people act like cunts, I've had to clean up broken bottle glass off the road and pavement outside my house twice this month. That's definitely something that people should not be doing, but there is a probable link between street drinking and disregard for littering, so they do. I think that's another one where better product regulation could win, because the options are either Sir Cop Toucher puts a million extra 'police hubs' everywhere to collar kids for having a beer, then presumably processes them all at public cost (probably via a special court run by one of Wes Streeting's mates), or they phase out glass bottles and instead do cans with a deposit return.
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Incy posted:The twitter point is very much something, the GS in particular is absolutely obsessed with twitter and will publish most of their messaging on there over actually passing it to members. They do like the strike mandates, but don't seem to know what to do with them, and have spent more time fussing around with who's on what negotiating team and what's going on there (it's not the leadership's job to do this, as it's meant to be up to the elected negotiators). It's very odd and as above, I don't fully understand why this is the case. I'm personally unfamiliar with the exact workings of a university so I'm curious, if, say, a week of teaching is not performed at a university, how exactly does it cost them money? Do the students who have paid for tuition (or the state if they're publically funded like in Scotland) get some of that money back? If a researcher has, say, a grant from a research society to do a particular project, and then can't do that work for a week because they're on strike, how does that translate into money lost for the university, as opposed to just the project being delivered a week later, assuming it's not just completed in unpaid overtime? I promise these are questions of genuine curiosity, I'm always worried when I have discussions that it sounds like I'm being facetious or trying to catch someone in a gotcha, but I'm uninformed on the details and interested to understand.
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Reveilled posted:I have a family member in the union who is furious over the whole handling of the industrial action, convinced that the union has been co-opted by people who are more interested in their twitter followers than their members... How true that all is, I can't say, but that's a rough summation of the feelings they've shared with me. I haven't spoken to them though since this most recent deal. I don't think this is quite right. When lectures or tutorials are cancelled, they're fully cancelled--they don't need to be delivered later. I also know from talking to other uni employees that the strike has led to serious aggravation on the part of parents especially, who are one group that the uni doesn't want breathing down their neck en masse; a friend who works in the uni's administration says that they're now inundated with calls from angry parents who want them to end the strike because they feel they're paying for a product and not getting it. Action short of a strike in postsecondary education is IMO useless. "Working to contract" is not an actual thing for most temporary/junior faculty--if you have to deliver a lecture or mark an essay but do a lovely job of it because you're "working to contract," it will often redound to your disadvantage, especially through student feedback or complaints. The students, and by extension their parents, also simply don't notice ASOS the same way they do a strike, to be honest. Striking is effective because when someone doesn't have to teach it A) has a notable impact, and B) often doesn't cause problems the same way ASOS does (or at least not in my experience). The main issue is forfeiting pay during strike days, and the main divide is thus between permanent and temporary faculty, as well as between senior and junior faculty. At my branch at least junior and/or temporary faculty have been scabbing for most of the strike with the rep's approval, since it's simply not possible for many to give up so much of their income and the strike fund has been incredibly slow to actually compensate people (I applied to the national fund back in January and still haven't heard anything back). The closest thing to what you're talking about is a marking strike, which I presume is being debated currently. If you choose not to mark final exams/assignments, many students can't graduate, apply to summer programmes, etc., and it can really disadvantage them. On the other hand, if it has the intended effect and forces the employers to offer a decent deal, then often union members do need to scramble to mark stuff that has piled up once the dispute is resolved.
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forkboy84 posted:My window had been closed for probably 12 days this year and I thought my heating bill was bad
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I actually quite like the smell. Which is just as well because it was omnipresent 24/7 round Barking tube station.
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feedmegin posted:I actually quite like the smell. Which is just as well because it was omnipresent 24/7 round Barking tube station. Yeah it smells nice, and you get to comment "oh ho cheeky boys smoking doob" to your dog as you walk them
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forkboy84 posted:I haven't played Warhammer 40K since before my voice broke (I had a Tyrannid army. I say had, I'm pretty sure it's still somewhere in my parents house. I know my 2nd edition codex is still there) but I keep up with the fiction to some degree because I'm a moron with bad taste & I find the way they've shaken up the status quo lately with actual Primarchs returning extremely interesting on at least a conceptual level. I don't know how that relates to the tabletop game but considering it had been mostly frozen in stasis like an Ultramarines Primarch for 30 years & now it's suddenly things are happening more than just "a Hive Fleet came in & was bad but was stopped" or "Abaddon did another Black Crusade & failed again". I had Squats when I were a teenager, so frowny face at this one ;p
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feedmegin posted:I had Squats when I were a teenager, so frowny face at this one ;p Squats are back !!! There now guided by decaying AI's that would make the mechanicus very cross if they found out about them, and their vehicles look like Playmobil stuff Renfield fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Mar 23, 2023 |
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Reveilled posted:I'm personally unfamiliar with the exact workings of a university so I'm curious, if, say, a week of teaching is not performed at a university, how exactly does it cost them money? Do the students who have paid for tuition (or the state if they're publically funded like in Scotland) get some of that money back? If a researcher has, say, a grant from a research society to do a particular project, and then can't do that work for a week because they're on strike, how does that translate into money lost for the university, as opposed to just the project being delivered a week later, assuming it's not just completed in unpaid overtime? None of this applies to Scotland or Wales as I don't know what happens there. To follow on from MeinPanzer's description of what happens with a strike above, Universities are obliged to put on additional teaching so that the mandated teaching hour requirement and learning outcomes are met. Therefore it very much depends on what the strike caused the students to miss - done on a case by case bases. If a student thinks they've been disadvantaged they can try to get a portion of their fees or other associated damages (eg the failure to secure a summer placement etc) back, either through the complaints process or legal action through contract. It's not automatic and will depend on the circumstances, and obviously Universities don't advertise this. Most of the cases here are settled before any court/the OIA are involved, but it requires a lot of effort and willpower by the student as the Universities will pretty much deny all damages in first instance. The real cost is that Universities will need to spend extra money to ensure that all students meet their learning outcomes, and this is at a pretty serious cost. Research is much simpler, it's just delayed by the strike period which can cause the University to miss goals and so suffer contractual penalties. There's no change in staff costs (as the staff will have been on strike) but overheads etc. will just have an extra amount of days equal to the strike days, so the University is obliged to make up these costs. The hardship fund has been a total shitshow and no one is quite sure why. It's supposedly cash rich but no one seems to be able to get any response at all out of it?
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On the subject of littering. One that doesn't get talked enough about is people abandoning food on the ground. Like abandoned chocolate bars or half eaten chicken wings are the worst, because if I'm taking my dog for a walk, she's an expert at sniffing out food like this and eating it before I have a chance of pulling her away. And they are all stuff which is really bad for dog's health.
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Y'know what else is littering to the nth degree? BBC Licence notices. London is just covered in garbage to be honest.
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Gort posted:and I thought my heating bill was bad I only run the heating when I have clothes to dry or it's properly cold, like below freezing. I naturally run quite hot. Also my duvet is...I have no idea what tog rating it is but it's heavy duty. I straight up just sleep on top of it most of summer, maybe with a bit folded over my feet so they don't get cold. Also the Scottish government did free cladding a few years ago & it's definitely made a noticeable difference.
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Thanks Incy and MeinPanzer for the responses and explanations.  In fairness to my family member, anything that seems wrong in my accounting of what they said is more likely to be as a result of me misunderstanding things and unintentionally mischaracterising their position, rather than an error on their part.
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Ban smells tbh. Can't be having with them. Like when my flatmate cooks with blue cheese. Hate walking into the kitchen afterwards. Ban it. Lock him up. Or when you're near a room that's been painted. Bit smelly. Make paint illegal. Confiscate brushes. Or when you're walking past a bin lorry sometimes the garbage smell will waft over to you for a bit. No more trash collection. Life sentence for bin men. Or when you walk into a bathroom after someone's done a particularly bad poo poo. No more solid food. That's being tough on the causes of crime, is what that is. Finally we will have social cohesion and unending happiness among the populace
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