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mdemone posted:I feel awful for whichever judge has to read that 483 pages of nonsense Their clerk is gonna paw through it first and the Judge signed up for that poo poo. it's the cost of getting to wear whatever you want under your robe in a courtroom and having goon bailiffs that do your bidding.
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How many Russian nesting dolls of lawyers is this lol https://twitter.com/wsteaks/status/1637896070985285633?t=uHOAwDfTliknlNN2GnFGqg&s=19
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Mar 20, 2023 20:24
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Xiahou Dun posted:Does constantly calling himself "President" in all legal filings grate on all the judges* like I'm assuming it does? Judges are basically the last people in the world who would get annoyed by using titles and respect for institutions. I've had judges arguing against Zoom hearings and bringing all proceedings back to in-person in January 2021 because they were concerned that "everyone is looking directly at each other on Zoom" and "it may diminish respect for the judiciary" because when they are in person, they have to look up at the Judge and can see their name card that says "The Honorable Judge X" on it. On Zoom, everyone is at eye-level and using the name "The Honorable Judge X" on Zoom won't show the entire name when there are multiple people in the Zoom room.
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Mar 20, 2023 22:23
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Grip it and rip it posted:Their clerk is gonna paw through it first and the Judge signed up for that poo poo. it's the cost of getting to wear whatever you want under your robe in a courtroom and having goon bailiffs that do your bidding. Jokes on anyone who things the Judge isn't into exactly that poo poo, and if they are not a trumpist judge will also directly enjoy tearing apart that nonsense in a scathing manner.
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Mar 20, 2023 22:51
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AtomikKrab posted:Jokes on anyone who things the Judge isn't into exactly that poo poo, and if they are not a trumpist judge will also directly enjoy tearing apart that nonsense in a scathing manner. Reading 483 pages and assigning myself a book report on it to own myself
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Mar 20, 2023 22:53
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cr0y posted:How many Russian nesting dolls of lawyers is this lol “Well, my testimony could exonerate Trump but, eh, the previous special grand jury didn’t ask. So, gently caress him,”? Or, your testimony would actually only condemn him more?
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Mar 21, 2023 00:12
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Murgos posted:“Well, my testimony could exonerate Trump but, eh, the previous special grand jury didn’t ask. So, gently caress him,”? I think it's more "Everybody involved is getting hosed so please leave me out of it, you're good without my testimony"
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Mar 21, 2023 00:44
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Judge Schnoopy posted:I think it's more "Please don't sanction me."
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Mar 21, 2023 01:04
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Bobb is currently on the line for being the attorney who signed off on the original 'yeah we checked and there are no more classified or classified marked documents here' statement. kinda unclear what her connection to the Georgia case is unless she's getting investigated from multiple angles, which, tbf, is not at all unlikely. despite her having been involved in the trump legal shitstorm for a while, it's not immediately clear why the Fulton DA would be interested in her 6+ months ago. Afaik she's a true believer and iirc was one of the people brought on board from OANN, though who knows where her loyalties stand after getting wrapped up in an espionage/mishandling classified materials investigation. Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Mar 21, 2023 |
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Mar 21, 2023 03:33
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AtomikKrab posted:Jokes on anyone who things the Judge isn't into exactly that poo poo, and if they are not a trumpist judge will also directly enjoy tearing apart that nonsense in a scathing manner. Jesus it is tiresome reading this schlock from posters with locked in syndrome, whether its about Covid or Trump. Please take your fake-Cassandra rear end to a street corner to spread the good news from a soapbox kthx. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Grip it and rip it fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Mar 21, 2023 |
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Mar 21, 2023 14:08
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... Are you sure you read that post correctly? I think it's just saying "judges actually like doing procedural paperwork, otherwise they wouldn't be able to survive being a judge and constantly doing procedural paperwork." I don't think it's actually making any other statements one way or another.
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Mar 21, 2023 14:16
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The actual answer is that judges delegate that poo poo to law clerks.
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Mar 21, 2023 14:18
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Clarste posted:The actual answer is that judges delegate that poo poo to law clerks. Judges are in general just evolved law clerks
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AtomikKrab posted:Judges are in general just evolved law clerks I feel like there are plenty of Trump-appointed judges who don't believe in evolution
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It’s Tuesday. Is it happening yet? Will it happen?
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Boris Galerkin posted:It’s Tuesday. No https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1638196788443201538?t=_7zR5GtCuBsOkK5tHQrc1A&s=19
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I can’t believe tromp lied to me about Tuesday. Sad. Angry.
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A couple of sites are claiming there was a bomb threat called in. Not specifically that it was what caused the delay, but in addition to what was going on. https://twitter.com/bbsutton/status/1638233894406201360 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-21/bomb-threat-called-in-to-ny-court-where-trump-hearing-held "A bomb threat was called in just as a judge in lower Manhattan was about to start a hearing over a $250 million lawsuit by New York Attorney General Letitia James against Donald Trump. Tuesday’s 911 call was investigated, the courthouse at 60 Centre Street temporarily closed and searched, and the threat deemed unfounded, state court spokesman Lucian Chalfen said. " "The New York Police Department said in a statement it had an increased uniformed presence throughout the city and stressed that “there are currently no credible threats” to New York, but that it remained ready to respond to protests and counterprotests. "
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I'm cross posting here because I don't know if this is US politics or more relevant to this thread but whatever, sorry for the spam https://twitter.com/wsteaks/status/1638304291805962240?t=Ea5zhotirmVm7l3etDW_UQ&s=19
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cr0y posted:I'm cross posting here because I don't know if this is US politics or more relevant to this thread but whatever, sorry for the spam 
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Boris Galerkin posted:I can’t believe tromp lied to me about Tuesday. AS soon as I heard him say he would be indicted Tuesday I knew it was bullshit because everything he says is a lie OgNar posted:A couple of sites are claiming there was a bomb threat called in. So, more fake news and/or Soros secret FBI agents
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That’s some juicy stuff. I love that several of Trump lawyers have managed to get themselves turned into potential targets. My wish is that Smith starts firing off indictments and we’re just rooting through every bit player in this 7 year ordeal.
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Murgos posted:That’s some juicy stuff. I love that several of Trump lawyers have managed to get themselves turned into potential targets. It turns out being a lawyer does not entitle you to being a criminal co-conspirator. Who knew!
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Grand jury in NY NOT meeting today. They have been told to stay home on standby for tomorrow. Places like Fox are claiming the delay is because "Soros-Funded DA Alvin Bragg CAUGHT HIDING Nearly 600 Pages of Exculpatory Evidence from NY Grand Jury in Trump Case”, but I cant find a reliable source saying anything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQGMUeGq90o https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1638632045403426817 OgNar fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Mar 22, 2023 |
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OgNar posted:Grand jury in NY NOT meeting today. You can't find a source because nobody knows. Everything relevant as to the reasoning is under seal.
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Apparently Corcoran has been recording his conversations with Trump. HAHAHAHA!!!! Get hosed.
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Murgos posted:Apparently Corcoran has been recording his conversations with Trump. I mean, didn't Cohen too (and everyone laughed just as hard when it happened?) It really seems to be a thing the smarter lawyers do around him.
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Murgos posted:Apparently Corcoran has been recording his conversations with Trump. THis is enticing and maybe I'm stupid but how is this not an attorney/client privilege thing?
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BiggerBoat posted:THis is enticing and maybe I'm stupid but how is this not an attorney/client privilege thing? Not when a crime is involved. That's been the whole deal with Corcoran.
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BiggerBoat posted:THis is enticing and maybe I'm stupid but how is this not an attorney/client privilege thing? He's fine to do it. The crime-fraud exception pierces the privilege, as determined by Judge Howell.
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BiggerBoat posted:THis is enticing and maybe I'm stupid but how is this not an attorney/client privilege thing? That’s the whole point of Judge Howell’s recent ruling. Trump by virtue of what has already been shown did a crime, which means it obviates attorney-client privilege.
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BiggerBoat posted:THis is enticing and maybe I'm stupid but how is this not an attorney/client privilege thing? Ja that privelege does not extend to discussions about helping your client hide or do crimes.
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The privilege is the clients. So if the client uses the attorney to further crime, which is what is being speculated here (unless we get information that changes that) then there is no privilege. For how quick and aggressively the appeals court handled this (file in three hours by midnight) and judge Howell’s comment about “prima facile evidence of a crime” it seems like Trump clearly and knowingly lied to Corcoran and made him lie or obstruct. That Smiths team knew enough already to press Howell for the ruling after Corcoran said his testimony was protected seems pretty significant. Having tapes that can be played that clearly show Trump committing a crime would be really, really amazing given his always talking sideways about everything.
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If Trump goes down for being on tape--just like Nixon--it will have a certain poetic irony.
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Ynglaur posted:If Trump goes down for being on tape--just like Nixon--it will have a certain poetic irony. Neither one really suffered any consequences for their actions?
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Based on the relatively low resistance by corcoran, my totally reckless speculation is that the conversations in question are "uhhh you can't do that, it's illegal" "shut up you are fake news"
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I'm just guessing, but the conversation is gonna be Trump and Corcoran discussing a crime that one or both of them totally committed but discussing it as a hypothetical. Because they believe that the equivalent of saying you're going to do it in Minecraft is a real thing.
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I think the smart money is on "Trump lied to his lawyer in ways to make the lawyer give false information that the lawyer believed was true, in such a way to further trumps criminal activities." Thus crime-fraud, Lawyer himself is quite possibly not at risk himself as long as he plays ball and turns everything over.
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Silly Burrito posted:Neither one really suffered any consequences for their actions? I meant in the sense of a voice recording being crucial evidence of the crime.
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