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flatluigi posted:i really don't think giving a creature permanent +2/+2 and flying is a bad ability. did you think the flying was only for that turn? no the problem is that its a minus on a single creature that doesnt meaningfully protect itself. if it gave the creature vigilance until eot or was a -1 it would have more relevance. going down to 2 loyalty on down tick is just really bad when you arent getting a card worth of value. the strength of a card like elspeth knight errant is that it ends the game extremely fast which is why it gets away with not really protecting itself very effectively. this is like elspeth knight errant but worse at protecting itself and worse at pressuring.
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Chamale posted:Looks like they changed the rules of Exalted to work more smoothly online, unless they already made that change and I missed it. They might in the future, but right now exalted is still a trigger per instance. Remember this is reminder text, which has no rules value
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[quote="Khanstant" post=""530672579”"] I'm also left wondering what the gently caress an angel is in this game. [/quote] This thread gets into it. They’re usually artificial beings (like Avacyn), so they can’t become walkers, since they don’t have souls. But certain angels have souls. Serran and Bant angels are made from fallen heroes, and Capennan angels also apparently work a bit different (see: Giada.) so she’s had a lot of contact with all the known planes where angels have souls. Boxman fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Mar 24, 2023 |
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HootTheOwl posted:They don't like mixing counters  
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They don't like effects placing multiple different types of counters on something at the same time. Crystalline Giant is one counter at a time so it is fine. So if Elspeth was 2 +1/+1 counters OR flying counter it would be fine but since it is both in one effect no flying counter.
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Boxman posted:This thread gets into it. They’re usually artificial beings (like Avacyn), so they can’t become walkers, since they don’t have souls. But certain angels have souls. Serran and Bant angels are made from fallen heroes, and Capennan angels also apparently work a bit different (see: Giada.) so she’s had a lot of contact with all the known planes where angels have souls. Haha I actually just read this and was about to ask if there's a way to search for all cards that reference a specific character, not just have their name in the card name. I want to try and make an all Elspeth commander deck. Got the 10 cards with her name on it, but assume there are other cards either depicting her or her stories or her icons and accoutrement. Maybe wait for Aftermath as she will surely get at least one card mention there. A more general Elspeth and angel/soldier commander deck would be better, but I'd really like to get as close to all Elspeth as I could. I also thought she was an older character than she is. Is there a better candidate for a commander deck of direct mentions or references? I'd bet maybe Urza but that guy sucks.
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Also Crystalline Giant is a lovely design that should have been for alchemy where the client takes care of the randomness and bookkeeping
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You can use MTG Fandom Wiki, which is pretty well updated. Most characters have a subsection that lists all the in-card references to the character https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Elspeth_Tirel#In-game_references You can also just use scryfall, searching something like "name:/.*Elspeth.*/ or flavor:Elspeth" https://scryfall.com/search?q=name%3A%2F.*Elspeth.*%2F+or+flavor%3AElspeth
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Crystalline Giant is also from a commander deck and they're waaaaaaay more lenient about readability rules like that for direct-to-eternal-format cards especially ones that aren't in a Limited set. EDIT: Disregard, it was originally in Ikoria. Yeah that's an extraordinarily bad design for a standard rare. Fajita Queen fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Mar 24, 2023 |
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Tism the Dragon Tickler posted:Crystalline Giant is also from a commander deck and they're waaaaaaay more lenient about readability rules like that for direct-to-eternal-format cards especially ones that aren't in a Limited set. You realize it was originally from Ikoria?
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tbh its also a lot easier if you're using the actual physical token discs they put in packs sometimes
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Strong Sauce posted:You can use MTG Fandom Wiki, which is pretty well updated. Most characters have a subsection that lists all the in-card references to the character Thank you, that's 43 of my deck right there lol. Amateur Arteur doesn't deserve acorn card status, jamming that in too. Scryfall hides the art for crusade behind a click, and then shows you the non-christian Elspeth version of the card. I get why the site does it, just clicked it because I was curious what the infamous crusade had to do with Elspeth.
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Tism the Dragon Tickler posted:Crystalline Giant is also from a commander deck and they're waaaaaaay more lenient about readability rules like that for direct-to-eternal-format cards especially ones that aren't in a Limited set. I assume, at that point, they really thought arena would be the primary tournament engine. It doesnt make sense otherwise
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Rinkles posted:You realize it was originally from Ikoria? Yes and it was annoying as hell to play and play against in limited.
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Lord_Magmar posted:They don't like effects placing multiple different types of counters on something at the same time. Crystalline Giant is one counter at a time so it is fine. Except, 
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Silhouette posted:Except, Dang I forgot about that elspeth design, what a cool look
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I SUSPECT it might be the case that because this elspeth ONLY does flying counters, there's a good chance flying counters might result in a single creature having several flying counters on it in a good portion of potential boardstates and THAT'S what they're trying to avoid. They COULD solve that by adding more test but they could also solve it by just trusting you to remember the ONE ability that this elspeth can give things. (Resplendant CAN have that happen but also it's generally only going to be when you've used her ability on the same creature five times and somehow not won the game already.)
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Don't doxx me!!
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I scoop.
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game winning combo
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Boxman posted:This thread gets into it. They’re usually artificial beings (like Avacyn), so they can’t become walkers, since they don’t have souls. But certain angels have souls. Serran and Bant angels are made from fallen heroes, and Capennan angels also apparently work a bit different (see: Giada.) so she’s had a lot of contact with all the known planes where angels have souls. god, urza was like the biggest poo poo in the multiverse wasn't he Edit: oh this is weird... i guess i never really thought about that time gap https://twitter.com/jay13x/status/1639010788059881474 CharlieFoxtrot fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Mar 24, 2023 |
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Dudes a eugenecist, of course he is.
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So Elspeth loses the gift of a sword full of angel heroin juice, decides to not mercy kill Ajani, wastes A TON of time bickering with Norn like it's Gohan toying with Perfect Cell. When she could have done both. Jace was right the bowl should have exploded everything.
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It wasn't bickering, it was a verbal fight and she owned Norn harder than anyone is going to with a physical or magical blade. Come to think of it, it's kind of like one of the last WoW lore moments I was around for. They were busy ruining a bunch of characters and stuff built up, and anyway the leader of the Horde, who'd recently been doing some unpopular evil bad guy type stuff, had a moment in a big confrontation between the two big armies, she was still in control despite her lovely behaviour and massive losses/sacrifices and general disregard for many forms of life. Then with one little pissy for she basically tells everyone she doesn't care about any of them and just is using them to do her own thing all along. And basically demoralizes everyone before she flies away on a broomstick cackling some poo poo having exposed herself as too evil for even the usual bad guy team. Norns in shambles, throwing just any poo poo she can grab at people. All she has is a stupid dog and creepy nerd who don't even have to listen to her anymore. Urza and Mishra and both losers and all of their progeny are failures.
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Tamiyo, Field Researcher feels like a hell of a card in an HBrawl proliferate shell. Does that card see much play in Commander?
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flatluigi posted:talking is a free action lol
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Remember in "A Garden Of Flesh" Ashiok made/revealed Elesh Norn was very deeply afraid of Elspeth doing one particular thing:quote:But just before the vision of Elspeth disintegrated, she opened her eyes and met Norn's gaze. She looked at Norn with such human pity, with such horrid sympathy, that Norn couldn't breathe. Archangel Elspeth Tirel does not see Elesh Norn as someone to fight personally; she sees her as someone young just discovering their personhood and an obstacle to a greater goal via her perspective as an angel. All of Elesh Norns nightmares have become reality. quote:"You're right, Norn," she says. "We aren't so different. We argue. We make mistakes. We have our own wants, dreams, and desires." Getting a phyrexian to voluntarily use "I", especially a Praetor like Elesh Norn means that Elspeth probably has inflicted lots of sanity damage on Norn.
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Chamale posted:Reverse Three-Card Magic is fun. You have to make the worst possible three-card deck that's still capable of winning a game against a goldfish. Players don't lose to having no cards in their library. There was a thread years ago for Three Card Magic (and the inverse). If I recall, the winning slow deck was Sand Silos + Broodstar + Naked Singularity, which took about 600+ turns to be able to kill you.
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redneck nazgul posted:There was a thread years ago for Three Card Magic (and the inverse). Impressively slow, but there's some rock-paper-scissors aspect since that deck beats Sand Silos + Copper Tablet
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Qwertycoatl posted:Impressively slow, but there's some rock-paper-scissors aspect since that deck beats Sand Silos + Copper Tablet https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/details.aspx?multiverseid=19602
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Well, going to my first in-person magic event in about 8 years tonight! Unfortunately the only game store within 45 miles of me runs 2 Modern events a week and literally no other format, so I'm bring a fresh Death and Taxes deck (this 75 in particular) because my rusted, puny brain can't handle anything more complex than that right now. If I can win one game I'll consider the night a success. Anyone have experience with modern D&T and have some general advice?
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Mr. Peepers posted:Well, going to my first in-person magic event in about 8 years tonight! Unfortunately the only game store within 45 miles of me runs 2 Modern events a week and literally no other format, so I'm bring a fresh Death and Taxes deck (this 75 in particular) because my rusted, puny brain can't handle anything more complex than that right now. If I can win one game I'll consider the night a success. Good luck... but seriously DnT has a pretty hard time currently because everything is incredibly efficient. You have to really know when to try and turn the corner to start putting pressure on them. As someone who played humans for a hot minute before swapping over to elemental tribal, really think about if a hand actually wins you the game or just slows down the opponent, because there's a difference and most good decks grind incredibly well now. Edit: depending on your store, I would seriously, seriously consider either adding blue for Lavinia or playing the mono-w chancellor tech because your biggest obstacle is that the elementals don't get taxed and can just wipe your board without something like forge tender out Weird Pumpkin fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Mar 24, 2023 |
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Giving a guy +2/+2 and flying is good. Reminds me of the 3 mana Ajani. But it's a 3 mana effect.
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 holy moly Predictions were right, Wrenn is the new Nissa now and has a World Tree
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AngryBooch posted:
This actually seems pretty dang good as well 
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