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thewizardofshoe: Feb 24, 2013

DropsySufferer posted:

Sorry, we are looking for someone with windows 1.0 experience at minimum.

# ? Mar 24, 2023 21:06

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tokin opposition: Apr 8, 2021; I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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Mustache Ride posted:

On a Friday? They must be new

He's 70 and been working or this place for 25+ years

# ? Mar 24, 2023 21:24

SyNack Sassimov: May 4, 2006; Let the robot win.
��--Captain James T. Vader

Internet Explorer posted:

A/B testing, and buddy, you're a Best Poster

I sure do agree

# ? Mar 24, 2023 21:29

Raymond T. Racing: Jun 11, 2019

Jiro posted:

Just got out of job interview, I think it went okay?

The county needs a goddamn miracle to get it's tech infrastructure it's so much worse than what was posted and what they need.

Head guy has only been there for three years because the director and assistant director both left a poo poo show of a department behind letting every department do their own thing and no accountability, he's had to try and make a team rebuild a dept from essentially scratch. Understandably no one wants to stay.

It's...... it's a lot. I don't mind sink or swim but when he openly admits that everyone has multiple projects and no one can really help, it doesn't paint a pretty picture. Also 48k a year.

I would do it for 480k a year, but not 48k

# ? Mar 24, 2023 21:30

Elem7: Apr 12, 2003; der; Dinosaur Gum

CloFan posted:

Nah.. There is more than private industry, rural public institutions need IT too and government jobs pay poo poo. I just hired an entry level deskside tech for $33k because that's all Sarah Huckabee will let me pay for that appropriation. My senior people only make $55k. It sucks! But is what it is.

Not to shill but again, the Fed's don't pay their IT that bad so if you're looking for a stable government gig give USAJOBS a look. Pay is based on locality so it's not going to be great in AR but even then entry level is going to be more like your senior pay.

Depending on where you live non-remote Fed jobs may be few and far between but its worth a look.

# ? Mar 24, 2023 21:46

tokin opposition: Apr 8, 2021; I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

My boss sent a pic from a yaoi anime I recognized (not explicit or anything) in an email about our VPN woes

# ? Mar 24, 2023 21:57

jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

Jiro posted:

Just got out of job interview, I think it went okay?

The county needs a goddamn miracle to get it's tech infrastructure it's so much worse than what was posted and what they need.

Head guy has only been there for three years because the director and assistant director both left a poo poo show of a department behind letting every department do their own thing and no accountability, he's had to try and make a team rebuild a dept from essentially scratch. Understandably no one wants to stay.

It's...... it's a lot. I don't mind sink or swim but when he openly admits that everyone has multiple projects and no one can really help, it doesn't paint a pretty picture. Also 48k a year.

Fucks sake man. None of the oil companies are hiring down there? There�s gotta be something. Oh wireless isps. Isn�t there a bunch there?

E: gently caress. Try wework

jaegerx fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Mar 24, 2023

# ? Mar 24, 2023 22:04

CloFan: Nov 6, 2004

Elem7 posted:

Not to shill but again, the Fed's don't pay their IT that bad so if you're looking for a stable government gig give USAJOBS a look. Pay is based on locality so it's not going to be great in AR but even then entry level is going to be more like your senior pay.

Depending on where you live non-remote Fed jobs may be few and far between but its worth a look.

I'm honestly happy where I'm at. Lucky enough to have a team who are competent and dedicated to the mission. I try to be as flexible as possible for work/life balance since it is butts-in-seats 40 hours a week, generally. Bennies are decent at least. CoL is bottom of the barrel, so fast food and retail are only just now coming around to $10-12 per hour starting in the area.

Next year my Public Service Loan Forgiveness kicks in, so I may be singing a different tune!

# ? Mar 24, 2023 22:12

Gucci Loafers: May 20, 2006; Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?

jaegerx posted:

Microsoft campus is pretty legit. My first time here in Redmond.

Isn't the whole campus under a major re-development?

jaegerx posted:

I'm in some building somewhere on campus for the rest of the week so if anyone is at Microsoft and can sneak me around let me know.

PM Sent.

# ? Mar 24, 2023 22:19

mllaneza: Apr 28, 2007; Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952

thewizardofshoe posted:

People keep trying to make their inability to run their meetings IT's problem today and I went from really mad to really amused over the course of this morning. As much as they want to blame IT everything works until these jokers gently caress it up and all of your high pressure meeting attendees can see that. Lol, lmao

Back at the ad agency, our prize possession was a $15k (in ~2003) LED projector with a hard shell travel case. One Thursday one of the junior account people signs it out for a New Business pitch. Come Tuesday, I get called into the main conference room by the VP of New Business. He's got the president of the local agency (75-person office, $100mil annual revenue) and the Senior Executive Creative Director for North America (the guy who did the Got Milk? campaign) with him.

The VP goes off on me. "Rant rave the projector didn't work rant rave rant rave we looked like assholes up there rant rave this cost us a $5 mil pitch rant rave what do you have to say for yourself?"

"Did it work during rehearsal?"

MFer froze. His brain just segfaulted and he froze up.

About 30 seconds of dead silence later the president says "thanks for coming in mllaneza, we'll take it from here."

I strutted out of that conference room and went out back for a smoke and a laugh.

# ? Mar 24, 2023 22:35

Wibla: Feb 16, 2011

thewizardofshoe posted:

People keep trying to make their inability to run their meetings IT's problem today and I went from really mad to really amused over the course of this morning. As much as they want to blame IT everything works until these jokers gently caress it up and all of your high pressure meeting attendees can see that. Lol, lmao

Hell, we have IT bitching about meeting room issues. Mostly with booking and the dumb touch panels that keep failing.

The actual equipment we have just loving works :eng101:

# ? Mar 24, 2023 22:38

BadOptics: Sep 11, 2012

Jiro posted:

https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/hidalgocountytx/jobs/3916087/cybersecurity-analyst-ii

Here's the job post.

quote:

Salary
$48,246.00 Annually

Individual is tasked with advanced (senior-level) security of the information contained within the County�s network infrastructure and related systems and peripherals. Responsible for analyzing and safeguarding security controls for all systems.

Individual is tasked with advanced (senior-level) security

advanced (senior-level)

Lol
Just lol

# ? Mar 24, 2023 23:21

Gucci Loafers: May 20, 2006; Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?

The average rent in Edinburg, TX is $800.

That pay is low but then again this place is also super affordable.

# ? Mar 24, 2023 23:24

Wizard of the Deep: Sep 25, 2005; Another productive workday

tokin opposition posted:

He's 70 and been working or this place for 25+ years

He did the IT equivalent of pulling a fire alarm and sent everyone home early.

loving hero :patriot:

# ? Mar 24, 2023 23:42

thewizardofshoe: Feb 24, 2013

mllaneza posted:

Back at the ad agency, our prize possession was a $15k (in ~2003) LED projector with a hard shell travel case. One Thursday one of the junior account people signs it out for a New Business pitch. Come Tuesday, I get called into the main conference room by the VP of New Business. He's got the president of the local agency (75-person office, $100mil annual revenue) and the Senior Executive Creative Director for North America (the guy who did the Got Milk? campaign) with him.

The VP goes off on me. "Rant rave the projector didn't work rant rave rant rave we looked like assholes up there rant rave this cost us a $5 mil pitch rant rave what do you have to say for yourself?"

"Did it work during rehearsal?"

MFer froze. His brain just segfaulted and he froze up.

About 30 seconds of dead silence later the president says "thanks for coming in mllaneza, we'll take it from here."

I strutted out of that conference room and went out back for a smoke and a laugh.

Absolutely beautiful.

# ? Mar 25, 2023 00:34

chocolateTHUNDER: Jul 19, 2008; GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

Wibla posted:

Hell, we have IT bitching about meeting room issues. Mostly with booking and the dumb touch panels that keep failing.

The actual equipment we have just loving works

What actual equipment do you use in your meeting rooms?

# ? Mar 25, 2023 00:59

KillHour: Oct 28, 2007

Crosby B. Alfred posted:

The average rent in Edinburg, TX is $800.

That pay is low but then again this place is also super affordable.

Remote work exists. Places need to start competing with companies that aren't in bumfuck nowhere whether they want to or not.

# ? Mar 25, 2023 02:40

jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

Gordon Moore died.

# ? Mar 25, 2023 02:45

Diqnol: May 10, 2010

If actual stress is six figgies territory, i need to get paid even more

# ? Mar 25, 2023 02:50

Warmachine: Jan 30, 2012

tokin opposition posted:

My boss sent a pic from a yaoi anime I recognized (not explicit or anything) in an email about our VPN woes

Send a pic from the same anime back (do not reply all) that adequately expresses whatever thought you're having, as a display of dominance.

Diqnol posted:

If actual stress is six figgies territory, i need to get paid even more

Internet Explorer posted:

so say we all

# ? Mar 25, 2023 03:08

Handsome Ralph: Sep 3, 2004; Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!

mllaneza posted:

Back at the ad agency, our prize possession was a $15k (in ~2003) LED projector with a hard shell travel case. One Thursday one of the junior account people signs it out for a New Business pitch. Come Tuesday, I get called into the main conference room by the VP of New Business. He's got the president of the local agency (75-person office, $100mil annual revenue) and the Senior Executive Creative Director for North America (the guy who did the Got Milk? campaign) with him.

The VP goes off on me. "Rant rave the projector didn't work rant rave rant rave we looked like assholes up there rant rave this cost us a $5 mil pitch rant rave what do you have to say for yourself?"

"Did it work during rehearsal?"

MFer froze. His brain just segfaulted and he froze up.

About 30 seconds of dead silence later the president says "thanks for coming in mllaneza, we'll take it from here."

I strutted out of that conference room and went out back for a smoke and a laugh.

You love to see it.

# ? Mar 25, 2023 04:04

Jiro: Jan 13, 2004

Crosby B. Alfred posted:

The average rent in Edinburg, TX is $800.

That pay is low but then again this place is also super affordable.

While it is that low, you're getting exactly what you pay for in the areas of town you'd pay for it.

jaegerx posted:

I have a great insult about milf porn and under age porn being the same thing in RGV but this isn't the place for it.

I mean.....yeah I laughed.

Jiro fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Mar 25, 2023

# ? Mar 25, 2023 08:17

jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

Jiro posted:

Good person, an 800 dollar place in Edinburg is basically a dorm room......from the 60s. Also Edinburg has the nickname of Crackton.

I have a great insult about milf porn and under age porn being the same thing in RGV but this isn't the place for it.

# ? Mar 25, 2023 08:23

Warmachine: Jan 30, 2012

My rent is $800 as well, but I suspect my 800sqft of lakeside cottage in whitebread-rear end suburbia is a better deal.

jaegerx posted:

I have a great insult about milf porn and under age porn being the same thing in RGV but this isn't the place for it.

# ? Mar 25, 2023 08:46

BaseballPCHiker: Jan 16, 2006

CloFan posted:

Nah.. There is more than private industry, rural public institutions need IT too and government jobs pay poo poo. I just hired an entry level deskside tech for $33k because that's all Sarah Huckabee will let me pay for that appropriation. My senior people only make $55k. It sucks! But is what it is.

Five years ago I was working at the local government level and we started helpdesk people out at $60k a year with awesome benefits. Even at the state level here entry level helpdesk was about the same.

I'm in Minnesota though not the deep south.

# ? Mar 25, 2023 13:35

BIG FLUFFY DOG: Feb 16, 2011; On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

Dumb career question:

I do tech support for a B2B app that only runs on iPads. Our next tier is really only for researching bugs and we don�t have a cap on time spent with customer since there�s nowhere to escalate to. So I do spend a lot of time looking through logs, doing support for the iPads themselves, etc. My duties are slightly more advanced than turn it off and on again (although that�s a lot of it) but I don�t really deal with desktops themselves at all beyond my own for looking up account info.

In terms of advancing my career what�s the best move. Going to another help desk that�s closer to desktops? Or something else?

# ? Mar 25, 2023 15:49

Internet Explorer: Jun 1, 2005

jaegerx posted:

I have a great insult about milf porn and under age porn being the same thing in RGV but this isn't the place for it.

maybe not duder

# ? Mar 25, 2023 16:32

skipdogg: Nov 29, 2004; Resident SRT-4 Expert

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

Dumb career question:

I do tech support for a B2B app that only runs on iPads. Our next tier is really only for researching bugs and we don�t have a cap on time spent with customer since there�s nowhere to escalate to. So I do spend a lot of time looking through logs, doing support for the iPads themselves, etc. My duties are slightly more advanced than turn it off and on again (although that�s a lot of it) but I don�t really deal with desktops themselves at all beyond my own for looking up account info.

In terms of advancing my career what�s the best move. Going to another help desk that�s closer to desktops? Or something else?

I know most of us in this thread probably cut our teeth on the helpdesk and worked our way up, but it's not necessary.

What do you want to do?

My recommendation is parlay your mobile device skills into something involving mobile/modern device management like Intune, MobileIron, something like that. The traditional desktop will never go away, but there's a big shift in the way we're going to be managing these things. Microsoft Intune, Autopilot, JAMF (for Apple stuff), other Unified Endpoint Management (UEM) platforms, there's a pretty good market for folks with those skills.

Try to skip the helpdesk level and get into an administration level role.

# ? Mar 25, 2023 16:38

i am a moron: Nov 12, 2020; "I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

If you can read logs that would instantly put you in the top quartile of sysadmins I�ve ever worked with. This post is also not sarcastic

# ? Mar 25, 2023 16:54

tehinternet: Feb 14, 2005; Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

i am a moron posted:

If you can read logs that would instantly put you in the top quartile of sysadmins I�ve ever worked with. This post is also not sarcastic

Knowing that logs exist will put you in the top 50%

# ? Mar 25, 2023 16:56

BIG FLUFFY DOG: Feb 16, 2011; On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

skipdogg posted:

I know most of us in this thread probably cut our teeth on the helpdesk and worked our way up, but it's not necessary.

What do you want to do?

My recommendation is parlay your mobile device skills into something involving mobile/modern device management like Intune, MobileIron, something like that. The traditional desktop will never go away, but there's a big shift in the way we're going to be managing these things. Microsoft Intune, Autopilot, JAMF (for Apple stuff), other Unified Endpoint Management (UEM) platforms, there's a pretty good market for folks with those skills.

Try to skip the helpdesk level and get into an administration level role.

It�s AWS logs mainly. The system is cloud based and o don�t mind cloud stuff and I also heard cloud pays the second best after security (which I do NOT want to do. Pretty sure I�m not smarter than most criminals.) this is my second career and I got into it mainly because I wanted financial stability. Although I do really like the feeling I get when I successfully figure out what went wrong

# ? Mar 25, 2023 16:57

Wizard of the Deep: Sep 25, 2005; Another productive workday

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

It�s AWS logs mainly. The system is cloud based and o don�t mind cloud stuff and I also heard cloud pays the second best after security (which I do NOT want to do. Pretty sure I�m not smarter than most criminals.) this is my second career and I got into it mainly because I wanted financial stability. Although I do really like the feeling I get when I successfully figure out what went wrong

Sounds like the next obvious step is getting some AWS certs and expanding there. You're already in it on a regular basis, so poking some of the corners may give you a better idea of where you want to jump to next.

# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:03