0413 So this is pretty cool. All of our strikers are up with a bunch of ginormous cruise missile like things. It looks like something you'd see at a gas station in Nevada or southern Wisconsin with a Miller High Life sign on the side. Flight Ripper30 looks to be the first on station at Faya Largeau Airport. The ToT is a bit off due to the zig-zag as our J-16's refueled. I now realize I should have staggered my attack by 30 seconds so I wouldn't be screen capping everyone at once. Ripper30 discovers there is still CAP somewhere. They manage to evade and continue with the attack run. Look at that luck! One striker down! Can you imagine how terrifying that would be? Heads down, flying nap of the earth, the sun rising behind you. When suddenly your RWR squawks and all you know is a missile is coming. Flight Ripper30 succumbs to the next barrage. Argh, a flight evades and now has to refuel. I'm going to have them RTB. It must be a headwind or something, everyone needs to get fuel. I knew I was cutting it close fuel wise. poo poo. So I send the tanker closer The Abeche airport is going to get hosed up. SAM launch! Multiple SAM's! We lose Gunman 1. Argh, the Crotale NG just whoop rear end and are destroying my incoming flights. We get bombs on target but at great cost. It's about now I realize that my SEAD flight never launched. Abeche though gets fairly torn up. A fuel leak knocks a Fencer out literally 5 miles away from the airfield. The evading over the target area has revealed a fatal flaw in my plan. I guess we cut it too close on fuel stores. To add insult to injury, our strike on the Rafale bases has been called off due to flight time. But it is not all sadness, for we have contacts... skunks... an FFG. And there it is.
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LEMME AT EM!
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quote:We get bombs on target but at great cost. It's about now I realize that my SEAD flight never launched. Truly in the best traditions of the VKS!
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Yooper posted:And there it is. gently caress 'em up!
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 03:47 |
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Hell yeah, time to sink some French ships.
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 10:41 |
0602 Our contact with the CDG is tenuous. As best I can tell they are headed 347 degrees at 15 knots. The two escorts are close behind. But for us, we have one goal, the Carrier. I slow the 101 - Carvor and set it on an intercept. It should be able to launch both anti-ship missiles and torpedos if we time this right. The Type 99 Habeas Dorkus, will also send out a barrage from the rear. Glynnenstein gets the order, his target is in range. Meanwhile Dance Officer and his meager flight of FanTan's head out for a brief strike. Rockets away! Not sure how the accuracy will be at 11,000 FT, but hey, Manpads! Scratch one T-54! lol And he eats one! But he stays aloft. The next FanTan knocks out like 4 tanks with his rocket strike. Troubling. I'm going to send up our last MPA and fix the position for the main strike. We get a sonar fix, it's the D620 - Forbin. That's our main problem there, a capable VLS with a lot of interceptors. We need to overwhelm it with vampires. Strikers go up! Carvor pops up to periscope depth and sees Rafale M's overhead, but more importantly fixes the position of the CDG. Our Glorious MPA fixes the CDG with its radar, moments before it eats poo poo. Look at that air wing! Lt Skooma512 valiantly intercepts a missile with his aircraft. We have a solid location, the strike is a go! Barrage away! Habeas opens fire as well. First weapons close are Habeas's flight of YJ-18's. All are intercepted less than 2 nm out from the CDG. The faster barrage of YJ-12's launches from further out. Glynnenstein lets loose with his battery of SSM's. They furiously reload for a secondary barrage. Carvor strikes the D620 with several torpedos! If we can knock out the VLS on this it will do amazing things for the rest of the strike. The CDG and its remaining escort intercept almost every single one of our vampires... We have a few that miss, but are intercepted not by the VLS but by a CIWS. Are they dry? Carvor launches torpedos! Glynnenstein's final barrage smashes into the De Gaulle! And the remaining torpedos re-acquire and strike the LaFayette! The CDG, at Position latitude='17.0950243530583', longitude='41.0023344600916', sinks in 1,178 ft of water. That was rough! But I think a worthwhile trade for the Charles De Gaulle. The Chadian ground forces got kind of wrecked, I guess? Not bad for 3 FanTan's and some Z-19's. I reviewed the save file and the Mirages were going to launch in two hours or so, at the same time as another Rafale OCA strike. So we absolutely got our knocks in while we could. In hindsight my fuel planning was lacking which led to the Chadian air bases being, basically, untouched. We roughed up Abeche a little bit, but not enough to really stop them. The Carvor, knocking out that DDG, really saved that barrage. Had that DDG been alive I don't think we'd have gotten any vampires through.
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My god. How many vampires did the CdG battlegroup swat before we got the torpedoes on it?
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I'm surprised it was such a big triumph, it felt like our air units got torn up. Is sinking the CdG just worth that many points?
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PurpleXVI posted:I'm surprised it was such a big triumph, it felt like our air units got torn up. Is sinking the CdG just worth that many points? 29 Rafales went down with CdG, probably worth some points as well.
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PurpleXVI posted:I'm surprised it was such a big triumph, it felt like our air units got torn up. Is sinking the CdG just worth that many points? France lost its only aircraft carrier, 1/2 of its modern AA destroyers, 1/6 of its surface combat frigates, and 1/3rd of all its modern fighters...for less than a squadron of modern chinese fighters and a grab bag of mostly obsolete second stringers and some random utility planes...pretty great trade for China!
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Did we fire 200+ anti-ship missiles? Daaaayumn.
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 21:36 |
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Also 139 torpedoes? That seems suspect, CMO having issues?
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Gervasius posted:Also 139 torpedoes? That seems suspect, CMO having issues? Yah? I think so, not exactly sure what's going on. I'll post it to the Matrix tech support forum and see what they can find.
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Lol. That is a lot of missiles.
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Gervasius posted:Also 139 torpedoes? That seems suspect, CMO having issues? Either CMO is, or the USN is in real trouble in a few years.
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That's a really fantastic trade we managed to snag there, I thought it was looking a bit dicey for us in the earlier engagements but the finale absolutely turned this into a major victory.
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bibliosabreur posted:The trade rate is very roughly 1:1 when it comes to...well...fighters that actually count. No, I'm not counting the Floggers or Fantans for this. CMO recently redid missile kinematic modelling and its caused some unexpected results. Looking at claimed range of a weapon then giving a burn-time needed to achieve that range means that the No Escape Zone (highest hit chance zone) for some weapons is VERY optimistic as a result. It'll no doubt get refined in the future.
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Dandywalken posted:CMO recently redid missile kinematic modelling and its caused some unexpected results. Looking at claimed range of a weapon then giving a burn-time needed to achieve that range means that the No Escape Zone (highest hit chance zone) for some weapons is VERY optimistic as a result. The "unexpected results" are already familiar to anyone playing combat flight sims like DCS or F4 (and the real AAW pros we consulted with). The big pushback is from people too accustomed to the old "photon torpedo"-like missile behavior, who apparently are uncomfortable with the need to actually pay attention to launch ranges now. Progress almost always means you piss off some people. Dimitris fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Mar 26, 2023 |
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Was this scenario only 6 hours? Imagine going to sleep then waking up to the news that your country lost its only aircraft carrier trying to bomb Sudan. Ptn c'est pire de dien bien phu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWP56VIgPIw
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Dimitris posted:The "unexpected results" are already familiar to anyone playing combat flight sims like DCS or F4 Never heard of em!
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Rip CDG, got way too close to a coast that it hadn't sanitized.
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Where do we want to go next? 1. Falklands 2. Greece Vs. Turkey 3. US-Colombia Vs. Russia-Venezuela 4. North Korea 5. Baltic Invasion I'm working on a US-China Vs. Indonesia-Saudi-Pakistan scenario so I don't want to get burned out on that so the Spratly one or Chains of War is out.
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Yooper posted:5. Baltic Invasion
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Yooper posted:2. Greece Vs. Turkey
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Yooper posted:2. Greece Vs. Turkey
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Falklands, but only if we're fighting against the British.
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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/575679303543422986/1089461819661369414/Turc.mp4 enable audio or perish
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PurpleXVI posted:Falklands, but only if we're fighting against the British. There are two medium sized scenarios that are from the Argentinian side. I will have to check them out and see how it looks.
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I like the notion of Greece-Turkey. Also, from what I can tell the CdG got hosed up by two subs more than the shorebound anti-ship missiles. So part of the problem was getting into a bathtub with two enemy attack boats nearby.
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Greece-Turkey sounds very interesting.
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habeasdorkus posted:I like the notion of Greece-Turkey. The sub definitely knocked the CDG out, but even if it had only taken out the first DDG the saturation would have been enough for the YJ-12's to "eventually" get through. By the final barrage it was CIWS only. There's probably a pretty narrow reload window on the VLS so the time-on-target was really critical.
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2. Greece Vs. Turkey tops my list of these choices.
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I'd personally be interested in a Curaçao/Netherlands vs Russia-Venezuela scenario. It'll be NATO vs Russia, but without all the poo poo the US gets to roll with. I'd probably set it in a timeframe when Venezuela has the Su-30, but the Dutch don't have the F-35 yet. Otherwise, let's relitigate Greece/Turkey Dance Officer fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Mar 27, 2023 |
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Greece Vs. Turkey!quote:Location: East Mediterranean That's the fluff, I'll post the OOB's for each side and we can pick which one to play.
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Greece. Let's try a defensive situation again.
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It's not clear to me from the fluff that there is a purely defensive side in this scenario. I mean, geostrategically, yes, Greece, but it sounds as though Turkey might have already sailed into the disputed seas and thus are defending on the water, even as Greek island garrisons are defending on islands. I'd wait until we see who has what where to decide who's going to have the more offensive operations.
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PurpleXVI posted:Falklands, but only if we're fighting against the British. someone is thirsty to use Exocet properly and that someone is Purple e: if CMO doesn't model forgetting to fuse your bombs properly or Sea Dart's radar system routinely locking up and refusing to do poo poo it's not realistic enough Psion fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Mar 27, 2023 |
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First up, Greece!quote:Commander a strong naval force has been monitored near Cyprus. Several Turkish naval ships have been gathered around the Fatih (Conqueror) and Yavuz Drilling Sea Drilling ship. These Massive Platforms have begun drillings inside Cyprus Exclusive Economic Zone. Additionally, the Turkish Air Force provides them with air support. quote:EXECUTION There's a lot going on here. Way more than just sink a French Carrier. quote:Hellenic Navy (HN) That's a decent naval contingent but nothing earth shattering. Given the tight AO this'll be a challenging area to operate. quote:Hellenic Air Force (HAF) Look at all this, holy poo poo. AEW, OECM, M270's, Spec Ops teams, S-300 battery, TOR, BUK,... MLRS's. All paired with F-16's, MI-35's, F-4's, and Mirages. Here's the projected intel report : quote:ENEMY FORCES Turkey quote:Objectives: At first I'm like oh, this is the defensive side, until I got to "Destroy the Greek Parliament and Pentagon." quote:Friendly Forces That's a solid naval contingent, it feels like way more than the Greeks have. quote:Air Woah, this is like, the entire Turkish Military. quote:Enemy Forces Interesting Intel report on the Greeks. The sub is a definite threat, but how much water can it cover in a short time period? QUESTION So what say ye, Türkiye or Ελληνική Δημοκρατία?
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Those Turkish forces I kinda want to run Greece. It looks like we'll be on the defensive somewhat against...all of that.
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Yeah, Greece is going to have a hard time dealing with that, on the one hand Greece has easier targets, on the other hand Turkey is clearly going in for an entirely different war than what Greece expects, a submarine lucking into a target that really shouldn't have been there for its own good isn't gonna work here.
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