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Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

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Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Would have been incredible to have happened in AoE2

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

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Aztecs: "What a strange trick"

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



crush'd by its own projectl



...ehh probably needs more workshopping but I'm tired

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


The inventor of corn flakes likely gave an enema to Emelia Erhardt.

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Inzombiac posted:

Emelia Erhardt.

good username

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


John Lee posted:

good username

lmao whoopsie. Gonna leave my shame there.

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Emelia Ersatz

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

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Amelia Earnhardt
Dale Earhart

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...
My dad, in WW2, sat up in the attic with his brother, trying to work out if they were sufficiently jewish to worry about the nazis invading. Apparently they were a generation off and thus real people.
One of my uncles was Polish and lost the use of one arm in the Warsaw Uprising.
Another of my uncles was this guy, and I wish I'd talked to him more.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Considering the enema we can rule out airfart for certain

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.
Two of my great uncles and one grandfather killed Nazis but apparently not enough based on grandchildren itc

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



my grandpas were in wars and also i miss them

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Unkempt posted:

My dad, in WW2, sat up in the attic with his brother, trying to work out if they were sufficiently jewish to worry about the nazis invading. Apparently they were a generation off and thus real people.

I guess this was pretty common. Was just reading an article* last night about the genealogical collection at the library of Frederiksberg, which was apparently started in 1934 and the number of transactions doubled during the German occupation.

* https://www.frederiksbergshistorie.dk/frederiksbergeren/genealogisk-samling-pa-frederiksberg-bibliotek (in Danish)

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009

Peanut Butler posted:

my grandpas were in wars and also i miss them

I like this thread title a lot

Joburg
May 19, 2013


Fun Shoe
My grandma installed radios in airplanes during WWII.

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



My Grandpa was in the Pacific Theater, mostly doing rear eschalon technical stuff like repairing radios and stringing up comm lines behind the front. Never talked too much about it, from what I gather he teared up when he visited the Pearl Harbor Memorial so I guess he was witness to some harrowing stuff.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Edgar Allen Ho posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ondboIwZSdQ

Denmark: can’t talk, can kick rear end when it counts

thanks for this song btw, i didnt know it before.

its a bit of a pretty picture, there were a lot of collaborateurs, but thankfully there were many more in the resistance.

some things i know or have heard growing up on the danish coast near sweden:

many jews did pay to be transported to sweden. no idea what the price could be, but ive also never heard any jew nor resistance member say the price was high so make of that what you will. some sources say it was evened out so rich paid more than poor and the destitute were free. the money was mainly used for payoffs, larger ships (one was hired in grenå, jutland) and life insurance for those involved. but im sure there was skim as well, it seems unlikely if there wasnt. there was a guy in my hometown who built a very fancy house shortly after the war. the locals called it "the synagogue", implying that he built it for money he overcharged or skimmed from the jews. i dont know if the allegations are true, but he hanged himself in the 1970s.

also heres some links for historians and family members:

the danish jewish museum has created a database of all those who were registered by the swedes when they arrived from denmark. search results link to pdf files scanned from swedish archves, let me know if you need translations (privately is fine):
http://safe-haven.dk

the national museum of denmark has a database of resistance members and more:
http://modstand.natmus.dk

e: also i have a bunch of lists of which ships sailed when and their captains, photos etc, kept by my grandmas brother. obvs not gonna share those here, but if you have a reasonable question pm me

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doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
One of my grandpas lived in Karelia, fought against the Russian invasion of Finland, was badly wounded by shrapnel, survived that, had lots of kids, but still died before I ever met him. The other one was so young he was drafted but never took part in any fighting, he was a nice guy, avid fisherman and a chain smoker, died of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

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Owling Howl
Jul 17, 2019
Thankfully no nazis in my family. Just regular colonial imperialists like everybody else.

Roblo
Dec 10, 2007

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!
I had a couple of great great uncles die at Paschendale and the Somme, but I think thats fairly common in Britain.

One of them drowned in the mud, I believe, which has upset me ever since I heard about it as a kid.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Roblo posted:

I had a couple of great great uncles die at Paschendale and the Somme, but I think thats fairly common in Britain.

One of them drowned in the mud, I believe, which has upset me ever since I heard about it as a kid.

I had a great (great?) uncle who survived WW1 but was gassed at the 2nd Ypres and basically couldn't exert himself beyond a slow walking pace for the rest of his life. Another relative on that side of the family was killed at Paschendale.

My mum's parents were both too young for service in WW2. My Dad's dad was in the navy - first as a navigator on convoy escorts in the North Sea (which he always shut down talking about by saying it was 'very boring' - make of that what you will), then a shore post doing science stuff on anti-mine hull paints (he was an industrial chemist in civilian life) and then as a 'fixer' engineering officer for the Fleet Air Arm - if operational faults or problems on/with aircraft were reported he'd go aboard to take details and suggest improvements.

My Dad's mum was in the ATS and drove ambulances in London during the Blitz. Which probably explained her driving style 50+ years later.

JGdmn
Jun 12, 2005

Like I give a fuck.
Pretty sure the first casual swear word my son heard in person was when he asked my dad about Vietnam and my dad told him it was a dumb war and a lot people died for no reason, “but it got me the gently caress out of Alabama”.

Plebian Parasite
Oct 12, 2012

My Great Grandfather was an Austrian Jew who managed to get out of Europe before poo poo went down, ended up joining the air force when the family got to America. He retired as a full colonel after serving for quite a long time, though I'm not too sure how much action he really saw since his listed role in the air force was 'dentist'.

Freudian
Mar 23, 2011

Not my grandparents, but my Hebrew teacher grew up in Dusseldorf in the 1930s, as a Jewish lesbian. She got sent off to Latvia to avoid Nazi persecution, which obviously didn't work out as planned. So she got sent off to Baghdad, but there was a pogrom. So she finally ended up in Mandatory Palestine, after fleeing for her life three times.

King Doom
Dec 1, 2004
I am on the Internet.
My grandad on my dad's side passed when I was seven, and some of my most cherished childhood memories are of me sitting on his knee as he told stories about shooting planes down and how when parachutes hit the water the right way they look like giant jellyfish. Wish I could remember more about it, really. Oh, and he was English, so apparently my grandpa may have shot down a lot of your grandpa's when he was in the merchant navy.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
My wife's grandfather was an RAF Hurricane ace in France before Dunkirk and during the Battle of Britain, pictured on the right.
https://twitter.com/WWIIpix/status/1033314980349784064
He was South African, and his squadron gave him the extremely badass callsign ZULU :black101:

He also had many pictures of him you may have seen before. They were published in a March 21, 1941 Life magazine article titled "The Few."


When you're slaying Jerries all day, RAF brass lets you grow your hair long.

But you really should get a haircut before you receive a Distinguished Flying Cross from King George


In order to be considered an ace, you need to have 5 confirmed air victories. He had a unique record where he got 5 confirmed in a day, making him an ace in a day. He repeated this in another day with 8 air victories. Ace in a day, twice.

He was shot down three times. Once on his first ace day over France, and a second time during the Battle of Britain. Second time he was badly burned and sustained a serious head injury, both of which shortened his life dramatically.

After that he was transferred to Ceylon. Took off from an aircraft carrier miles away from the airfield and immediately had engine troubles. Knowing he wasn't going to make it to land, he radio'd for permission to land on the aircraft carrier. His aircraft was not equipped with carrier landing gear like an arrestor hook, and he had never attempted a carrier landing before. He was granted permission, and somehow managed to land safely on the carrier, describing it in his report extremely British-ly as "RN very pleased with my effort" :wotwot:

Third crash was after taking fire from Japanese fighters in Ceylon, bailing out just 200 feet above ground level.

His life after the war was sad and somewhat brief. Went to England to farm, married, had kids and died in his early 60's. He was also abusive and cruel to his family, and all but one of his children became abusive narcissists.

Mixed legacy! A genuine war hero who did amazing things in his service career but was not a nice father. He probably had undiagnosed mental illness, likely had lasting brain damage from his several crashes, and almost certainly had lingering PTSD from combat. He had breathing problems ever since his lungs were burned in the second crash, but the brain scramblies were certainly worse.

More stories from him and his squadron at the site below, including the one where he splashed three fighters in less than a minute.
https://saafmuseum.org.za/one-of-the-few/

Red Bones
Aug 9, 2012

"I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Is there a good source of information / research/ perspective on how the trauma of WW2 impacted that whole adult generation in the late 1940s and 1950s?

I haven't watched or read a lot of media from the immediate post-WW2 era, but I find it interesting particularly in a US context where there's a sort of optimistic 'Americana' zeitgeist, but so much of the working adult male population at the time would have been traumatised or physically/medically carrying impacts from the war to some degree.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Red Bones posted:

Is there a good source of information / research/ perspective on how the trauma of WW2 impacted that whole adult generation in the late 1940s and 1950s?

idk but I think a lot about my grandad who served. He never talked about it, to the point his own kids never even knew he'd been stationed out in the far east until two decades after his death when his wife died and they went through old photos. He spent the rest of his life post war with severe depression and it's so sad no one knew why.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
One of the few things I'll give baby boomers is that they were raised by a bunch of PTSD addled guys frequently with substance abuse issues.

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009

Milo and POTUS posted:

One of the few things I'll give baby boomers is that they were raised by a bunch of PTSD addled guys frequently with substance abuse issues.

And gals!

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

canyoneer posted:

He was shot down three times.

So here's a question for history goons. There's so many stories about all these airmen who got shot down multiple times inside warzones. After you get shot down... What exactly do you do? I mean, you survived, obviously, but do you really just dust yourself off, break out a map and compass, and start walking back to your side of the war?

"Johnson! Where the gently caress have you been?!"

"Got shot down a bit, sir. Ready to head back up. Got another plane for me?"

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

Animal-Mother posted:

So here's a question for history goons. There's so many stories about all these airmen who got shot down multiple times inside warzones. After you get shot down... What exactly do you do? I mean, you survived, obviously, but do you really just dust yourself off, break out a map and compass, and start walking back to your side of the war?

Depends on exactly where you got shot down. If you were, for example, an RAF fighter pilot in the Battle of Britain you were in luck, almost anywhere you landed you were just a phone call away from being driven back to your home airfield and:

Animal-Mother posted:

"Johnson! Where the gently caress have you been?!"

"Got shot down a bit, sir. Ready to head back up. Got another plane for me?"

If you landed in the channel or the north sea your luck was...less good.

Offler
Mar 27, 2010

thatbastardken posted:

If you landed in the channel or the north sea your luck was...less good.

Hey, you could be lucky and land close enough to a floating room equipped with a stocked kitchen. They even had books and chess boards so you wouldn't grow too bored as you waited for rescue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fDnSQoneiE

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Animal-Mother posted:

So here's a question for history goons. There's so many stories about all these airmen who got shot down multiple times inside warzones. After you get shot down... What exactly do you do?

You rely on the French Resistance to evade the largely ineffectual and corrupt (but still dangerous) German occupation forces.

The staff of a local café are somehow critical in this endeavor.

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



There was a Polish pilot shot down in the Battle of Britain who crash-landed at a country club, and won a game of tennis.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


In a real hurry to get back, I take it.

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
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Arrath posted:

In a real hurry to get back, I take it.

And miss out on the chance to become an ace?

meatbag
Apr 2, 2007
Clapping Larry

Cool Kids Club Soda posted:

And miss out on the chance to become an ace?

:golfclap:

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Dec 22, 2003

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I imagine it was a lot easier to survive being shot down in these contexts since the planes were slower, flew lower, and you were mostly getting shot up with bullets (if big ones) rather than missiles. So a lot of the time it was a mission kill, not "explode and die."

It also helped in the RAF's case that they were over friendly territory with well developed travel, so you could be shot down in the morning and in the afternoon, too! Did that happen to anyone?

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