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NotJustANumber99 posted:Has there been any polling on whether corbyn could win as an independent? Is there a precedent for it? I vaguely recall some ukip knobhead getting in in Clacton or something, but I'm not sure that's hugely relevant. that was mark reckless and he won by campaigning against himself and his leadership, it was hilarious OwlFancier posted:I wouldn't be confident of corbyn winning but it seems quite possible they split the vote and someone else gets in. he could split his vote 52/48 and still win, his majority is 49% and 2019 was his worst result in a long time. There's absolutely no path for a win that doesn't involve the majority of labour voters sticking to the party and turning out for a rando they don't know anywhere near as well. I don't think for a second labour think they have a prayer, they're just setting up to call everyone in islington a bigot and make a shocked face
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I suppose the most funny outcome would be starmer pissing away labour's lead and corbyn winning his seat still.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Has there been any polling on whether corbyn could win as an independent? Is there a precedent for it? I vaguely recall some ukip knobhead getting in in Clacton or something, but I'm not sure that's hugely relevant. I don't suppose there's been much polling because we don't really do much constituency polling, but a relevant example would be Ken Livingston running as an indepenedent to be London Mayor after Blair et al decided he couldn't & put forward Frank Dobson instead. Livingston won, obviously. Another example that comes to mind is the Falkirk West MP Dennis Canavan. He'd been an MP for 25 years & in that time he'd been a big supporter of Scottish devolution & so when the Scottish Parliament opened he wanted to run for it, but Labour parachuted in some nobody because Canavan was in the Socialist Campaign Group & I guess they didn't want that sort at Holyrood (despite him having the support of 95% of his constituency party). So he said gently caress it & ran as an independent, winning with over 55% of the vote. Like Corbyn, Canavan was a popular long-term MP. So yeah, it's entirely feasible he'd win. The last time he polled under 50% was 1983, when he wasn't an established MP yet, the Tories won a landslide on the back of the Falklands, AND the SDP split plus the merging of 2 Islington constituencies meant he ended up facing 2 sitting MPs, Michael O'Halloran (Islington North) & John Grant (Islington West)
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Has there been any polling on whether corbyn could win as an independent? Is there a precedent for it? I vaguely recall some ukip knobhead getting in in Clacton or something, but I'm not sure that's hugely relevant. Constituency-level polling is rarely done for cost reasons and even if it is it's never published. All the "Johnson to lose seat says latest poll" stuff is taken from national level polling that's modelled to a specific constituency (using vote swings or demographics depending on the complexity). Islington North might well be worth it for labour to poll as an internal information exercise, but I can't imagine it'd be worth publishing since a) it shows they're worried enough to commission bespoke polling and b) it'd only be worth publishing if it shows Corbyn being utterly humiliated
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happyhippy posted:Street opinions are always terrible. My office is right across the street from the BBC NI main building and they often do on-street interviews with people as the view up the street towards City Hall makes a nice backdrop. When we first moved into that office about 7 years ago we used to regularly get vox-popped by BBC staff while we were outside for a smoke break, but none of our opinions ever made it onto BBC Newsline or Radio Ulster. These days they avoid anyone on the street there and tend to get their street opinions outside the Post Office on High Street mid-afternoon, because people using the post office at 3pm on a weekday have their finger on the pulse of modern politics.
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https://twitter.com/uncle_deluge/status/1640448684339896342 I call dibs on New Bangladesh
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Loonytoad Quack posted:https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1640349532239155200?t=qVwN9GSn2Ncu6XMsfbw9xQ&s=19 congrats on being ethnic, also, you suck
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Loonytoad Quack posted:https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1640349532239155200?t=qVwN9GSn2Ncu6XMsfbw9xQ&s=19 No Keith that's the wrong order for a poo poo sandwich
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Diet Crack posted:KormaCaledonia You come and go You come and goooo-oh-ohhh-ooo
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Clyde Radcliffe posted:because people using the post office at 3pm on a weekday have their finger on the pulse of modern politics. Tesseraction posted:https://twitter.com/uncle_deluge/status/1640448684339896342 
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smellmycheese posted:https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1640391774710513666?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg The TBEU is getting increasingly implausible, I didn't believe for a second that there's an Earl of Minto. Now I'm going to google it to confirm that I'm entirely correct
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Wow i just got the news that scotland elected its first muslim leader, probably the first muslim head of state in europe, who is this guy? Is he decent or some kind of tory-lite wierdo?
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Tesseraction posted:https://twitter.com/uncle_deluge/status/1640448684339896342 Wales isnt as nice as bangladesh but it will do just fine
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Al-Saqr posted:Wow i just got the news that scotland elected its first muslim leader, probably the first muslim head of state in europe, who is this guy? Is he decent or some kind of tory-lite wierdo? he's not a head of state (yet...)
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Al-Saqr posted:Wow i just got the news that scotland elected its first muslim leader, probably the first muslim head of state in europe, who is this guy? Is he decent or some kind of tory-lite wierdo? As mentioned, not a head of state, merely the head of a devolved government, and "elected" in the sense that an internal leadership election among members of his party selected him as the candidate. He's...okay...ish? The SNP as a party under his predecessor's leadership was a pretty bog-standard social democratic party in every sense of what that means in 21st century Europe--progressive rhetoric and a general commitment not to make things worse while shying away from anything that could be considered even slightly radical on policy, with the added benefit in the SNP's case that they can blame their failure to push actual left-wing reforms on the fact that they don't have full fiscal independence from the UK. But to their credit the SNP have actually navigated the recent public sector strikes markedly better than the Tories, managing to avert strikes in Scotland by actually negotiating with unions instead of trying to starve them out, and they burned a hell of a lot of political capital getting through the Gender Recognition Act because it was the right thing to do. Yousaf was the continuity candidate following from the previous leader Nicola Sturgeon, so under his leadership we can expect the SNP not to change very much, I think. His election also means the survival of the Green-SNP coalition in the Scottish Parliament, which would likely have collapsed otherwise. Many were worried the election of either of the other two candidates would have seen the SNP lurch to the right. As for the man himself, he has something of a reputation for being irritable and humourless--people who disliked Stugeon won't feel differently about him, and people who liked Sturgeon, so far as I have seen, don't find him to be charismatic or straight-talking. It wasn't uncommon for people during the race to openly despair that Humza would have been their last choice for leader until they saw who was running against him. Also, I haven't bothered to check but surely Bosnia and Albania have had a muslim head of State, and that's before considering if Turkey counts. Or if the Ottoman Empire or any of the muslim states in Italy or Spain pre-1500 count. Reveilled fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Mar 28, 2023 |
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Al-Saqr posted:Wow i just got the news that scotland elected its first muslim leader, probably the first muslim head of state in europe, who is this guy? Is he decent or some kind of tory-lite wierdo? He's your pretty standard liberal technocrat. Talks a good game but definitely a centrist. At least he doesn't despise lgbt+ people like his opponents I guess.
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ok I looked into this Hamza Yousaf guy and he seems like an extremely shady and dangerous character:-Wikipedia posted:In November 2016, Yousaf was fined £300 and had six penalty points added to his driving licence, after being caught by police driving a friend's car without being insured to drive it. Yousaf accepted full responsibility, saying: "I totally accept the decision. I paid the fine and told my insurers about the points. This was an honest mistake, and the result of my personal circumstances during my separation." Dangerous and absolutely terrifying, woke culture is allowing criminals to become national leaders!! my prayers for the once-noble scottish, the tartan has been stained! may the ghost of the queen protect Blighty from this blight!
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Anyone bought a PS5 in the UK recently? I gather they're no longer as rare as hens' teeth, but any suggestions as to where to go to get the best price?
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Reveilled posted:being irritable and humourless--people who disliked Stugeon won't feel differently about him Ah, but you see, there is something critical about him that means that irritability and humourlessness are actually no-nonsense leadership traits
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MeinPanzer posted:Anyone bought a PS5 in the UK recently? I gather they're no longer as rare as hens' teeth, but any suggestions as to where to go to get the best price? Just did a search, you can get them on Very.com
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MeinPanzer posted:Anyone bought a PS5 in the UK recently? I gather they're no longer as rare as hens' teeth, but any suggestions as to where to go to get the best price? There's console + no games for £479 https://www.amazon.co.uk/PlayStation-9395003-5-Console/dp/B08H95Y452 Or for £589 you can get it with God of War Ragnarok and CoD:MW II 2 https://ao.com/product/p5hehwkit61470-playstation-console-white-95792-291.aspx from the same site you can also get it £4 cheaper, but you get Hogwarts Legacy instead of CoD II 2, which, 
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The extremely normal wangs over dorset people have logged on. Scotland is Islam now. Gay is mandatory. All white women are to be deported.
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Guavanaut posted:The extremely normal wangs over dorset people have logged on. finally some policies i can support
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Tesseraction posted:Was that guy ever hinged or was he always like this? Did the 2014 result break him? Stuart has always been a deeply unpleasant oval office, laughing at the Hillsborough tragedy for example. I dunno when exactly he went full masks off racist though
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MeinPanzer posted:Anyone bought a PS5 in the UK recently? I gather they're no longer as rare as hens' teeth, but any suggestions as to where to go to get the best price? You can get them from Sony directly- I've got a controller from them when the purple ones where out of stock everywhere and they deliver quickly. They doing a PS5 with either God of War: Ragnarok, Modern Warfare or FIFA at the moment for £539 The Blu-ray Disk-Consoles on their own are the standard RRP of £479 or £529 (With an extra controller): https://direct.playstation.com/en-gb/hardware/ps5
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Guavanaut posted:The extremely normal wangs over dorset people have logged on. There are not very many MSPs that aren't white. I expect Forbes will stay in place as Finance minister, Yousaf is continuity Sturgeon after all. Please god give the man some media training though because for hard questions he either doubles down with something stupid, gets angry and defensive, or talks about how great he is.
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forkboy84 posted:Stuart has always been a deeply unpleasant oval office, laughing at the Hillsborough tragedy for example. I dunno when exactly he went full masks off racist though He's probably always been. I think it was the Alecsammin sex offender trial that broke him though and sent him in a spiral of evil woke sturgeon wants to trans your kids and make everyone into a communist.
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keep punching joe posted:Please god give the man some media training though because for hard questions he either doubles down with something stupid, gets angry and defensive, or talks about how great he is. Worked for Boris
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Failed Imagineer posted:Worked for Boris Boris also had the ability to be temporarily likeable and charming despite being a massive turd.
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Sad news I’m sure. His Majesty’s Imperial NFT will now not be for sale to idiots https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1640632911690100737?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg
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keep punching joe posted:He's probably always been. Ah yeah, MeToo broke a lot of brains with the idea that men can face even mild consequences.
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keep punching joe posted:He's probably always been. Ah, that could be right, he was far from alone in being broken by beloved Eck being put in trial for "things every man does" (not an actual quote, just trying to make it clear this isn't my opinion)
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smellmycheese posted:Sad news I’m sure. His Majesty’s Imperial NFT will now not be for sale to idiots 
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MonkeyLibFront posted:Just did a search, you can get them on Very.com Tesseraction posted:There's console + no games for £479 https://www.amazon.co.uk/PlayStation-9395003-5-Console/dp/B08H95Y452 Renfield posted:You can get them from Sony directly- I've got a controller from them when the purple ones where out of stock everywhere and they deliver quickly. Excellent, thanks everyone! Probs going to go for the God of War bundle.
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