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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Dipsticks are so cheap that I have a huge doubt that the time it took to engineer a sensor with the software and interface programming, as well as the hardware like said sensor and wring is in any real way saving even a cent. It's a dumbass attempt to force owners to use dealerships for maintenance work. I think the main foe is owners who won't open the hood and check the oil level.
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Deteriorata posted:I think the main foe is owners who won't open the hood and check the oil level. Most people are so sold on oil being such long interval that car companies have given them a false sense of safety when it comes to oil conmsumption. 10k mile oil changes are on thing I blame, failing to explain to owners that they need to frequently check the oil level is another.
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Mar 28, 2023 22:06
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CommieGIR posted:Most people are so sold on oil being such long interval that car companies have given them a false sense of safety when it comes to oil conmsumption. I only put like 10k miles per year on my daily driver so I just change it every 6 months, I go to the dealership because 10qts of full synthetic and a change costs me $28, since I bought the car from them, literally impossible to beat that price.
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Mar 28, 2023 22:28
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My car is every 10k or 12 months, whichever comes first, provided you drive it in a, say, "relaxed" manner. If you drive it the way it's meant to be driven, you will get a notification to change the oil at an earlier interval.
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Mar 28, 2023 22:52
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Don't know anything about it. Was scrolling down fakebook and there this was:
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Mar 29, 2023 00:50
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wesleywillis posted:Don't know anything about it. Was scrolling down fakebook and there this was: How do you think this comes apart? Does the U-haul actually pull forward at all or does it spin its wheels? Do the straps holding the truck to the trailer part, dropping the truck off the back of the trailer?
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Mar 29, 2023 01:00
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Obviously, the uhaul is left in neutral, the wheels of the camper are chocked, and the truck on the trailer gets put in reverse and pushes the uhaul + flat bed forward.
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Mar 29, 2023 01:18
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wesleywillis posted:Don't know anything about it. Was scrolling down fakebook and there this was:
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Mar 29, 2023 01:20
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wesleywillis posted:Don't know anything about it. Was scrolling down fakebook and there this was: Driven by Early Cuyler, no doubt
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Mar 29, 2023 02:04
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corporal punishment is stupid but loving hell this poo poo cannot continue to fly
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Mar 29, 2023 05:51
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OBAMNA PHONE posted:corporal punishment is stupid but loving hell this poo poo cannot continue to fly Does that look like it was done by someone concerned about death or the obvious consequences of their own actions?
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Mar 29, 2023 05:58
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The oil change interval on my previous car was 30K km or annually, and I think it's the same for the Hyundai we just bought. Everything else I've owned/maintained was 20K km or annually. (Maybe the '88 Corolla was an exception, but I changed it annually and it had over 200K km with no issues at all when I sold it) US oil change intervals are comically short, probably because of the crap engines and oils of the past, plus of course oil companies/dealerships. Synthetic oil lasts a long time, yo. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Mar 29, 2023 |
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KillHour posted:Does that look like it was done by someone concerned about death or the obvious consequences of their own actions? perhaps they need a reminder
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OBAMNA PHONE posted:corporal punishment is stupid but loving hell this poo poo cannot continue to fly Capital then
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Mar 29, 2023 08:43
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KozmoNaut posted:US oil change intervals are comically short, probably because of the crap engines and oils of the past, plus of course oil companies/dealerships. My Hyundai would be bone dry if I went by the 12month/15,000km factory interval and it doesn't even burn as much oil as some of them do. It isn't just Hyundai either - every VAG TSI uses enough for the overly long factory intervals to be a problem.
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Mar 29, 2023 09:06
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Well yeah, I do check once in a while and top up as needed. The Fiat used no oil at all, the Peugeot used 1L per 10K km. Dunno about the Hyundai yet.
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Mar 29, 2023 09:32
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I have no idea what my Fit uses because there's no gauge and I never check the dipstick. But neither of my parking spaces have oil spots (I park in the middle, blocking both) and the exhaust looks and smells fine.
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Mar 29, 2023 14:27
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Every single manufacturer conveniently forgets that there are two OCI's. The regular/standard use and the "severe" use. Living in Canada puts you in the severe use category for 6+ months of the year. Lots of short trips which never allow the oil to get hot enough to allow moisture and fuel evaporation, also severe use. Severe use OCI: 5000km(+-) for almost manufacturers.
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OBAMNA PHONE posted:corporal punishment is stupid but loving hell this poo poo cannot continue to fly That Works posted:Capital then lol
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Mar 29, 2023 14:35
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6_cLozleWM Don't blame him, working flat rate is bullshit
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Mar 29, 2023 15:48
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Sounds like someone needs a union
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Applebees Appetizer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6_cLozleWM
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Mar 29, 2023 17:05
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If someone wins too often, the system WILL change to prevent that. Thinking flat rate is good usually means you're one of those people going "well *i* would be able to come out on top in this system, not like all those other idiots".
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It also incentivizes rushed, sloppy work.
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Mar 29, 2023 17:58
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Luckily in the UK stuff like flat rate isn't how techs get paid but we do have heavily incentivised bonuses and hell, I don't care about the money and I'm constantly at war with my employers over my productivity.  That being said it looks like maybe it shouldn't have taken that tech 12 hours to remove that gearbox unless something was hosed up about the car and also lining all those bolts up on the ramp arms is an odd choice! Just begging to get knocked off and scattered everywhere!!!!!!!
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Olympic Mathlete posted:^ bikes are so much better than cars for just outright exhilaration. Death a mere heartbeat away certainly makes you feel alive. As I get older my cars get smaller and more fun and then I come to the realisation that bikes were what I was looking for after all. Wish I'd gotten into them decades ago tbh. This isn't anything new tbh, my 2015 118i had both this electronic dipstick and an actual dipstick, and my 2017 320i just has the electronic dipstick. I'm pretty certain the high end models like the 5 and 7 series had them in the late 00s. It works fine I guess, and you don't have to drive for 30 minutes - you just need to have the engine at operating temperature. However it is quite sensitive to inclines, which is a bit of a problem because my street where I now live is on an incline, so I have to check it when I'm parked up flat somewhere. I suppose the German response would be you should keep checking regularly so any loss of oil would be detected long before it loses enough to pose a serious issue.
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fridge corn posted:Luckily in the UK stuff like flat rate isn't how techs get paid but we do have heavily incentivised bonuses and hell, I don't care about the money and I'm constantly at war with my employers over my productivity. Agreed, bags for the bolts at a minimum Guessing it's his first try and the second one will probably go much faster
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElLtNohlATU I kinda wonder if it would be possible to design a shrillin' chicken that didn't travel into dog hearing territory when at anything other than idle.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:
Still unacceptable. Lord Ludikrous posted:I suppose the German response would be you should keep checking regularly so any loss of oil would be detected long before it loses enough to pose a serious issue. "Yes, we caused this problem, but if you changed your behavior you could prevent it." Engineers are the goddamn worst
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The whole point of the sensor is that the car can do continuous monitoring and alert you before it loses enough to pose a serious issue without the owner needing to lift the hood.
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SlapActionJackson posted:The whole point of the sensor is that the car can do continuous monitoring and alert you before it loses enough to pose a serious issue without the owner needing to lift the hood. Cars have had this sensor and the ability to display it since before EFI even existed and no one until dickhead engineers now have even considered removing dipsticks! And not even with just an idiot light Yeah I'm loving mad at these fuckwits who removed a simple mechanical check device that cost next to nothing CAT INTERCEPTOR fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Mar 29, 2023 |
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Lord Ludikrous posted:However it is quite sensitive to inclines, which is a bit of a problem because my street where I now live is on an incline, so I have to check it when I'm parked up flat somewhere. That's kinda stupid, they already have the exact geometry of the oil pan and enough sensors to get the current tilt of the car if it's at rest, it wouldn't be that hard to correct for it and just check every time you turn it on.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Cars have had this sensor and the ability to display it since before EFI even existed and no one until dickhead engineers now have even considered removing dipsticks! This tbh
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Yeah I mean don't get me wrong I'd rather have the dipstick as well. Keep in mind that this is the same BMW that in the LCI update for the F30 made the coolant expansion tanks for the radiator and intercooler out of opaque black plastic so you have to open the cap to see the level measure inside, and they also made the screenwash tank both mostly out of sight and out of the same black plastic so its impossible to see how much you need to top up by without filling it to the point of almost overflowing.
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The fact that modern engines are usually covered in 10 pounds of plastic shielding is bad enough
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Scratch Monkey posted:The fact that modern engines are usually covered in 10 pounds of plastic shielding is bad enough I'm struggling to think of a modern where you lift the bonnet and think "Wow thats a gorgeous looking engine" Like this? 
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:I'm struggling to think of a modern where you lift the bonnet and think "Wow thats a gorgeous looking engine" Mazda Miata comes pretty close for a modern engine. Everything isn't covered in plastic. https://www.autoblog.com/2017/03/29/mazda-mx5-miata-engine-bay/
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:I'm struggling to think of a modern where you lift the bonnet and think "Wow thats a gorgeous looking engine" Engine bay porn does not belong in the "terrible car stuff" thread. This kind of derail will lead to a leper's colony full of probations (again). (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:Engine bay porn does not belong in the "terrible car stuff" thread. This kind of derail will lead to a leper's colony full of probations (again). Bet  All this bullshit for 300hp. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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