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klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.
I could have sworn she said "all". Is that perhaps a mis-quote on purpose?

I should probably go watch the video again

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klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.
gently caress she didn't say "all" at all. Not even a hint of "all", the audio couldn't be clearer.

I kind thought she was being a tad hyperbolic but understandably so, and to be clear I don't think she needed to clarify, but she didn't even say what I thought she said!

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

bike tory posted:

cis white men cause violence is just a statement of fact, fam

no its all me, personally

carrionman
Oct 30, 2010

Progressive JPEG posted:

no its all me, personally

Violence Progressive JPEG is a statistical outlier and should have been disregarded.

It's funny to me how I responded to it, my first instinct as a white cis dude was to go "gently caress you too Marama!"
Then I thought about it for half a second more and you know, I can't find any fault in what she said. Systematic, institutional violence is kind of our thing. You get a few domestic, artisanal violence creators amongst other groups but if you want an entire systems of conflict and violent resolutions to disputes, we are literally your men.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



i think someone left a kettle on

Content to Hover
Sep 11, 2009

RNZ posted:

Nash sent an email to senior business figures in 2020, which contained Cabinet discussions related to a commercial relief package being negotiated at the time.

Nash getting kicked from cabinet for an email from 2020 is one way to change the political narrative. I'm surprised that now is the time that they chose to leak it. Wouldn't it do more damage three months out from the election?

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

klen dool posted:

gently caress she didn't say "all" at all. Not even a hint of "all", the audio couldn't be clearer.

I kind thought she was being a tad hyperbolic but understandably so, and to be clear I don't think she needed to clarify, but she didn't even say what I thought she said!

what percentage would she have been thinking?

I'm pretty sure it's a low percentage because as previously mentioned I am personally the source of all violence

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

klen dool posted:

gently caress she didn't say "all" at all. Not even a hint of "all", the audio couldn't be clearer.

I kind thought she was being a tad hyperbolic but understandably so, and to be clear I don't think she needed to clarify, but she didn't even say what I thought she said!

huh, i thought she'd said "all" too, for some reason

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Rip nash

Charles 2 of Spain
Nov 7, 2017

Also my pornstar name

Smithersnz
May 10, 2005

We freaked out yesterday. Let's just freak in tonight
Soiled Meat

Content to Hover posted:

Nash getting kicked from cabinet for an email from 2020 is one way to change the political narrative. I'm surprised that now is the time that they chose to leak it. Wouldn't it do more damage three months out from the election?

Nah, now they can have the shitfight over whether he should resign now and we have a byelection, if it's within 6 months they won't have to.

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

https://twitter.com/SimeonBrownMP/status/1640605201404133377

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

the guy needs to leave cabinet, and probably parliament, purely on the grounds that he just got owned by Simeon Brown

alpaca diseases
May 19, 2009

Luxon: We do, we support free speech

Also Luxon: National is demanding Marama Davidson apologise to cis white men over her comments


also ty, for the cum coloured kool aid man - adding it to my rotation of white ppl descriptors

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
lol this today fm stuff is wild

Content to Hover
Sep 11, 2009
This is obviously in no way the free market showing us that people don't want to listen to Duncan Garner and Tova O'Brien.

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Obviously the free market prefers Williams, Plunkett, etc.

spanky the dolphin
Sep 3, 2006

exmarx posted:

lol this today fm stuff is wild

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKwUYChERgg

Confusedslight
Jan 9, 2020
Nothing like burning bridges throughout the new zealand media landscape. Great job mediaworks!

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.
I think that audio is really upsetting
like yeah garners a wanker but tova is alright I guess and there are a bunch of people that work there

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー
A lot of melodrama there, but what's the scandal exactly? I'm not hearing anything about political motivations, it's just a business closing/downsizing early and the talking heads being unhappy?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Capitalism happened to me personally and that's very upsetting - a radio host

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



"this whole company is doing so badly" - yeah, tova, i don't know if you noticed this while doing all your reporting but mediaworks has had its head underwater for like a decade now, so pardon me if i don't join you in surprise that they're jettisoning a radio station that hasn't turned a profit since it started.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

Serephina posted:

A lot of melodrama there, but what's the scandal exactly? I'm not hearing anything about political motivations, it's just a business closing/downsizing early and the talking heads being unhappy?

To be clear, the talking heads can get hosed, they don't have to worry about paying next months mortgage, but a lot of other employees do, and it's clearly been incredibly poorly handled.

Confusedslight
Jan 9, 2020

BuckyDoneGun posted:

To be clear, the talking heads can get hosed, they don't have to worry about paying next months mortgage, but a lot of other employees do, and it's clearly been incredibly poorly handled.

This

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.
yeah there are people crying in the background and poo poo, and like they were all obviously told a lie about how long term this enterprise was gonna be and yeah yeah you can go on about how naive they are for believing a business guy who they obviously trusted tell them this was gonna be a long term exercise but like they are a victim of lies and fraud (perhaps not legally since you couldn't prove it) and victim blaming.

You should be able to trust that when your boss says "in it for the long term" he is also not saying to the board of directors "weIl think if X doesn't happen in 5 months we'll pull the plug" or whatever

Pararoid
Dec 6, 2005

Te Waipounamu pride
I thought the idea was to sell off the declining TV assets and focus on the profitable radio assets?

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





klen dool posted:

You should be able to trust that when your boss says "in it for the long term" he is also not saying to the board of directors "weIl think if X doesn't happen in 5 months we'll pull the plug" or whatever

that's...... hopelessly naive

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

that's...... hopelessly naive

It's klen dool yes

Wafflecopper
Nov 27, 2004

I am a mouth, and I must scream

more like yesterday fm

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Serephina posted:

A lot of melodrama there, but what's the scandal exactly? I'm not hearing anything about political motivations, it's just a business closing/downsizing early and the talking heads being unhappy?

The ceo and head of news both quit within the last month, and they were the two champions of the idea. It's just a bean counter decision now. Station lose money: close station, sell assets.

I'm sure Tova and Dunc and Garner will land on their feet elsewhere but it's bad for the media landscape as a whole imo

Charles 2 of Spain
Nov 7, 2017

This is because talkback went woke.

Xik
Mar 10, 2011

Dinosaur Gum
Apart from the employees on the ground losing their jobs, which will always be poo poo, why does this matter?

A dying medium continuing to die???

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Good news

Police lay assault charge on woman who threw juice over Posie Parker

quote:

Rubashkyn shared a message from police on Twitter on Wednesday, where police said: “This matter needs to be dealt with soon to remain low key. If we don’t get any traction, police may have no option but to issue a warrant for your arrest.”

Police confirmed on Wednesday they were looking through footage from social media as well as scouring CCTV from nearby shops and businesses.

Working hard, thank you! - a message from nz police

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


Tova sucks.

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

that's...... hopelessly naive

Actually no it's not. If I'd said "you CAN trust your boss...." THAT would be naive. But I didn't, I was saying this is how it should be, not this is how it is.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Acab

The Rabbi T. White
Jul 17, 2008





Notice they don't seem to be doing much about Marama being hit with a loving motorcycle. Wonder why that is...?

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Dragonstoned
Jan 15, 2006

MR. DOG WITH BEES IN HIS MOUTH AND WHEN HE BARKS HE SHOOTS BEES AT YOU
by Roger Hargreaves

The Rabbi T. White posted:

Notice they don't seem to be doing much about Marama being hit with a loving motorcycle. Wonder why that is...?

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