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Maybe it was a bad idea to make many of the main ways people socialize involve drinking alcohol while making driving a car the only way to get from place to place. Unless one of these things changes, drunk driving isn't going away.
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NeatHeteroDude posted:I'm trying to think of someone people generally hate more than drunk driver who kills people and struggling This is easy: bicyclists
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Mar 30, 2023 21:34
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NeatHeteroDude posted:Do cops and medi blame the kids killed by drunk drivers? When my sister got hit on her bicycle by a drunk driver when she was 14, the police gave her poo poo for being in the street. She was riding across the street in a small neighborhood with a bunch of narrow one ways so it wasn't like she was riding on a multi lane high way or something. Her knee was permanently destroyed and she's had multiple surgeries to fix it. The drunk drivers insurance only paid my family like 30k total which lol didn't even come close to covering everything she's needed through her life to deal with it. https://slate.com/business/2022/09/houston-8-year-old-bicycle-death-unsafe-streets-chase-delarios.html This child was blamed for riding in a street by the local cops. silicone thrills has issued a correction as of 21:39 on Mar 30, 2023 |
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Mar 30, 2023 21:36
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given the massive danger to other people and themselves the best option is the complete inability of the habitually drunk driver to drive. it sucks that they'd probably lose their job in America but that would probably end up happening anyway, and there would be less risk to pedestrians and other drivers. i struggle to think of a workable alternative besides massive committed Islam (at this point easier than the stage of communism with no alcoholism, which has been achieved nowhere ever)
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silicone thrills posted:When my sister got hit on her bicycle by a drunk driver when she was 14, the police gave her poo poo for being in the street. She was riding across the street in a small neighborhood with a bunch of narrow one ways so it wasn't like she was riding on a multi lane high way or something. Her knee was permanently destroyed and she's had multiple surgeries to fix it. The drunk drivers insurance only paid my family like 30k total which lol didn't even come close to covering everything she's needed through her life to deal with it. child was in violation of the rule that anywhere around a street or road, even in a residential neighborhood, is the exclusive domain of the automobile. they child acted against the rule and disrupted the harmony of the environment. it makes sense that the police would be angry at the dead kid.
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Mar 30, 2023 21:43
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NeatHeteroDude posted:I have a hard time separating drunk driving from advanced alcoholism because when I've worked with people in that population it's a telltale sign that doesn't feel uniquely evil or bad intentioned because at the point where you're constantly driving super drunk your behavior has transitioned from actively making informed choices to just doing whatever gets you your immediate needs met without caring about others. Drunk driving is particularly awful but at that point you're just not thinking rationally about anything. You're not really thinking, "yes, I could walk or call an Uber. It'll cost more, but the human and economic cost of killing a person or crashing is so high that driving hammered is beyond the pale." It is about material weight, and at a certain point, 70+ years of bad decisions comes to home to roost. The public transportation infrastructure in general across the US is laughable even in large cities and it has been designed as such. In other parts of the world, there are options, they really don't exist in the US. You could increase the toll for drunk driving but it probably wouldn't stick because American system has been designed to be dysfunction and eventually there would be pressure to bring them down again so people can liquify their brains again to get away from the crushing weight of their reality. It is bad, and will probably get worse.
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American society will collapse if car drivers were told to be careful and responsible with their several thousand pound death tanks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_L5TnitJ1Y
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Mar 30, 2023 21:46
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a neighborhood with sidewalks isn't safe for pedestrians lmao loving texas
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spacemang_spliff posted:a neighborhood with sidewalks isn't safe for pedestrians lmao they didn't spend all that money to build the road just to waste it on kids with bikes
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DesertIslandHermit posted:American society will collapse if car drivers were told to be careful and responsible with their several thousand pound death tanks. It is every citizen's final duty to return to underneath the treads of the 5 ton crew cab XL tanks.
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lobster shirt posted:smh at this use of passive voice
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NeatHeteroDude posted:Not drunk and literally every article except the one summarizing the police statement (which was attacked for deliberately covering up the city making it unsafe) says a kid was killed by a driver
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:Neighborhood Bus Stop & Pizzeria Real Toronto roadman ting: Some of the best Jamaican beef patties you can find in this city are in stands inside of subway stations. There are enough of them that there's even some debate as to which patty is the best subway beef patty. Unfortunately I don't think most of those places are open late enough (though neither is the subway itself). If they were, they'd basically have a money printing license from all the drunk people.
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Drunk driving is something that very few people are really ready to address just how common it is and just how ineffectual the criminal justice system is of handling. For one, it’s a crime of poor judgment rather than malicious intent. Almost nobody thinks “I’m gonna go crash” so much as they misjudge how impaired they are or alternatively they get more impaired than they intended to and find themselves making the bad decision to roll the dice For another, it’s incredibly common. For every person pulled over for drunk driving they’ve successfully made it home impaired dozens of not hundreds of times. Similarly with wrecks. They roll the dice until their luck runs out. And the statistics of wrecks and arrests won’t tell you with any certainty the breadth of the problem, because for every drunk driver caught there are a dozen or more who have never been caught Yet another is that it’s a crime that cuts across all demographics, racial and ethnic, rich and poor, gender, etc… and so there’s no majoritarian impulse to crack down hard Again it’s not a crime where people intend to get caught, often they don’t weigh the penalties I don’t know the answer. I don’t drive if I drink, ever, but I also live in the middle of a city and have plenty of options including if push comes to shove walking home I do know the current selective enforcement doesn’t work. I don’t know how to fix that. In fact, the current system to me seems almost like a legal fee and diversion fee and court fee industrial complex that doesn’t improve outcomes so much as funneling money into the hands of lawyers and diversion program managers I don’t know except to say it’s hosed up
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My sister had her alcoholism come to jesus moment last year when she realized she had a handle of vodka in her car and had "magically transported" to work. Called her husband and had him come pick up the car and then checked herself into a 30day program and luckily so far has been pretty successful with it. She admits she had probably been drunk driving for quite a while and just didn't acknowledge it until then. Its super generational poo poo. Our parents did it too. Both of our parents died from alcohol related incidents. If she had ended up hitting a kid while driving too it would have just been the worst circle to complete. Ill never understand why we hammered weed so loving hard in this country for so loving long when alcohol was right there just destroying everything. One way to address it at least somewhat is the required breathalyzer in cars and yes you can get around it by having someone else blow for you but that's a lovely person with you who would blow and no one with a fuckin iota of brain cells is gonna blow for someone who's drunk. silicone thrills has issued a correction as of 22:17 on Mar 30, 2023 |
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cat botherer posted:NHD is really a masterclass in how to minimize perception of car violence. he got bit by a car and transformed into one
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Mar 30, 2023 22:21
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Cuttlefush posted:he got bit by a car and transformed into one There was a cartoon on USA network about this when I was really little. I think maybe if he got wet he turned into a racecar. Weird poo poo
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HashtagGirlboss posted:There was a cartoon on USA network about this when I was really little. I think maybe if he got wet he turned into a racecar. Weird poo poo hot if he got hot, like in the shower
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Real hurthling! posted:hot if he got hot, like in the shower Oh yeah. And cold water made him human again I think right?
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we are all made of cars
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Huh I wonder if the breathalyzer requirement in all cars is actually on track to happen https://jalopnik.com/the-in-car-breathalyzer-is-only-a-few-years-away-1850268311
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HashtagGirlboss posted:There was a cartoon on USA network about this when I was really little. I think maybe if he got wet he turned into a racecar. Weird poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j18e_ID-DpA YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE TURBO TEEN! DON'T DRIVE!!!
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silicone thrills posted:Huh I wonder if the breathalyzer requirement in all cars is actually on track to happen Even ignoring political issues I think it would have to work perfectly with no special effort on the part of the driver, which seems unlikely. Once you throw in political issues, it seems even more impossible.
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maybe Im misreading but this lady wasnt drunk driving and got into an accident. it sounds like she was drunk and pissed and used her car as a weapon.
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mystes posted:I doubt this will ever actually happen People said that about the backup camera thing too initially.
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the car should just notice erratic driving and engage some safety mode that pulls over and makes you take a 35 minute temper tantrum until you get another shot
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im stating the obvious but the car-breathalyzer thing seems more like a permanent grift for car-breathalyzer makers than a good response. all new cars forever + maintenance. nice work
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silicone thrills posted:People said that about the backup camera thing too initially. If you have to bend over and breathe into a breathalyzer thing every time you get into a car people will freak out
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Mister Speaker posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j18e_ID-DpA I just came back from looking this up because the video was so hosed up. That the driver lived and became able to transform into a car and back doesn’t make it OK to just drop into the thread or make it look any less like a snuff clip. I guess you think you’re the Car Whisperer and can divine what the gently caress is going in in that clip, but for us normal humans that looked pretty loving bad and isn’t something that belongs here without an explanation and warning. If you want to watch that sort of clip feel free to gently caress off to the chans.
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That said I would 100% rather breathe into a breathalyzer every time I get into my car than have some dumbass accelerometer slapped into the car to "passively detect" whatever algorithmic approximation they have of how a drunk driver drives, which will have very little proportional impact on actual drunk driving while creating a lot of potential for false alarms.
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Polo-Rican posted:the true protagonist of speed racer only appeared in one episode: lol this is one crazy rear end episode. this mf just whipping people left and right lmao. based show
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mystes posted:Aside from adding a negligible cost, backup cameras only help drivers and don't inconvenience them in any way i think the concept was that some sensor in the cabin would passively pick it up. u dont breath into anything.
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Smythe posted:i think the concept was that some sensor in the cabin would passively pick it up. u dont breath into anything. I can't wait for some idiot to concern troll about "auto brewery syndrome" or something
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Smythe posted:i think the concept was that some sensor in the cabin would passively pick it up. u dont breath into anything.
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https://slate.com/business/2023/03/paris-car-ban-bikes-cycling-history-france.htmlquote:How Paris Kicked Out the Cars some nice before and after photos in this pdf https://www.apur.org/sites/default/files/evolution_mobilites_grand_paris.pdf?token=uM1LFlmo cowboy beepboop has issued a correction as of 00:20 on Mar 31, 2023 |
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If people can't get drunk, drunk driving won't happen We should ban liquor
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gradenko_2000 posted:If people can't get drunk, drunk driving won't happen It's crazy hosed up that nobody ever tried this in North America.
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NeatHeteroDude posted:Take away the cars and the perfidious drunk will just find another way to travel dangerously That's why you have to ban drinking. Gets rid of a lot of date rape or slipping roofies into drinks issues as well. But Big Drink has bought off all the politicians But, as always, this is because the focus is on the wrong thing and drunk driving should be legal just like drunk bicycling is in Illinois. It's only if you cause a collision that there's a problem
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