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g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

Eimi posted:

What's weird is that it's a loving cruiser. 5/3 4/2/5 though it can only get lt tac abilities. Cmdr Engi/command, lt comm sci/mw, lt tac, e tac, lt uni. Weird setup. The model looks great though. I love all the TMP era models they've made, like the one for the Walker class is also brilliant.
The seating was bugged - it should be a lt comm tac, not the lt tac/cmdr which they showed on stream. Someone typoed when creating the ship, it will presumably be fixed before it goes live.

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Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


g0del posted:

The seating was bugged - it should be a lt comm tac, not the lt tac/cmdr which they showed on stream. Someone typoed when creating the ship, it will presumably be fixed before it goes live.

Ah, one lt comm tac is at least workable.

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

Eimi posted:

Ah, one lt comm tac is at least workable.
According to the dev on the stream, it's very easy to mix up Lt Commander Tactical and Lt Command/Tactical when creating a new ship.

I don't think either ship is going to be meta-defining, but they're both very workable. The new torpedo does look promising, though. We'll have to see how it does when people with actual builds get to play with it, but it looked very good just based on how much damage it was doing with Kael's patented not-a-build in the stream.

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal

DancingShade posted:

I don't remember. Think it was a decade plus back when it was set up. I've got operator though.

Unmuted.

edit - best guess someone misclicked when trying to boot someone else. I don't play during prime time so I'm just plucking straws. Any lingering problems let me or someone else know.

Thanks.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


g0del posted:

According to the dev on the stream, it's very easy to mix up Lt Commander Tactical and Lt Command/Tactical when creating a new ship.

I don't think either ship is going to be meta-defining, but they're both very workable. The new torpedo does look promising, though. We'll have to see how it does when people with actual builds get to play with it, but it looked very good just based on how much damage it was doing with Kael's patented not-a-build in the stream.

I'm assuming they are gonna be bundled together though, like I'd totally buy that Akira for 40$ or whatever. Inflated price but whatever. Having to buy the loving Valdore alongside? Noooope. In the same way I'd love to get my hands on the L Excelsior but no way would I ever pay for that loving travesty of a pack.

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

Eimi posted:

I'm assuming they are gonna be bundled together though, like I'd totally buy that Akira for 40$ or whatever. Inflated price but whatever. Having to buy the loving Valdore alongside? Noooope. In the same way I'd love to get my hands on the L Excelsior but no way would I ever pay for that loving travesty of a pack.
Yes, 2 ship bundle for 12k zen. They listed the extra fluff on the stream, nothing exciting, and significantly worse than the fluff in the lego warbird bundle (which was also 2 lego ships for 12k zen). They said that the initial sale would be 30% off, though I suspect it might end up being 35% off, which is a more normal initial sale price.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

g0del posted:

Yes, 2 ship bundle for 12k zen. They listed the extra fluff on the stream, nothing exciting, and significantly worse than the fluff in the lego warbird bundle (which was also 2 lego ships for 12k zen). They said that the initial sale would be 30% off, though I suspect it might end up being 35% off, which is a more normal initial sale price.

What a dumb ripoff. I'm probably going to buy it, both of those ships were my favorites back when LOR launched.

Valdore is probably extremely off meta now but just think, who else is going to turn up in one?

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

Eimi posted:

What's weird is that it's a loving cruiser. 5/3 4/2/5 though it can only get lt tac abilities. Cmdr Engi/command, lt comm sci/mw, lt tac, e tac, lt uni. Weird setup. The model looks great though. I love all the TMP era models they've made, like the one for the Walker class is also brilliant. It comes paired with the L Valdore for the people dumb enough to want to try and make romulan ships work, let alone a temp ops escort. It looks substantially less good appearance wise too.



I figured they'd have to do something like make it a cruiser, since making it an torp command escort was going to make it way too similar to the Norway they released last year.

And that Valdore is giving me B5 Centauri vibes. I think that's cool :)

Fidel Cuckstro fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Apr 3, 2023

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


I can see it.

The antagonist in Picard S3 flies a Vorlon ship which we'll surely get someday too

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Another red alert starting tomorrow for the usual rewards.

First Contact Day after that, awards an interesting looking console.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.


That actually looks really neat. I dunno how meta-viable it is (maybe a sci build?) but it's the first legit cool new gimmick I've seen in a while.

Lorak
Apr 7, 2009

Well, there goes the Hall of Fame...
I think this is the first Lower Decks thing they've given out for free after the doffs, and I couldn't be happier.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

...and now everyone's ship is named InvalidEntityName.

How can slotting in a new Red Alert mission break the game's fundamental GUI parts?

Preechr
May 19, 2009

Proud member of the Pony-Brony Alliance for Obama as President
gently caress if I know, patcher told me it couldn’t find a file and then downloaded something anyway, and now the game won’t start because it has an error.

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

Der Kyhe posted:

...and now everyone's ship is named InvalidEntityName.

How can slotting in a new Red Alert mission break the game's fundamental GUI parts?
Invalidentityname started with the Tuesday patch. The broken patcher that's preventing a lot of people from playing any of Cryptic's games is a whole new bug that started yesterday.

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

g0del posted:

Invalidentityname started with the Tuesday patch. The broken patcher that's preventing a lot of people from playing any of Cryptic's games is a whole new bug that started yesterday.

And they were likely trying to fix the bug that has ships popping up with InvalidEntityName whenbeing comissioned and got that.

They're also extending the Voth and Red Alert events due to the bugs, so you might be able to squeeze in a little more meta-event progress.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Hunter Noventa posted:

And they were likely trying to fix the bug that has ships popping up with InvalidEntityName whenbeing comissioned and got that.

They're also extending the Voth and Red Alert events due to the bugs, so you might be able to squeeze in a little more meta-event progress.

Man, I kinda want to but on the other hand gently caress that event.

Preechr
May 19, 2009

Proud member of the Pony-Brony Alliance for Obama as President

Cyrano4747 posted:

Man, I kinda want to but on the other hand gently caress that event.

Protip: capturing a transporter in the Voth Battlezone counts and takes about 8 seconds. I’ve been logging out by the transporter to make it even faster. If it’s already captured when I log in I just change to a lower population instance and it keeps me right there.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I was looking at the legendary akira article / advertisement:
https://www.playstartrekonline.com/en/news/article/11541383

And noticed this detail, which I didn't pick up on before:
+10 Engine Power, +5 Shield Power, +5 Auxiliary Power

This sucker has no weapon power bonus. None. You do get the cruiser command weapon system efficiency thing but that's it.

Huh.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
Current master systems designer seems to like torpedoes. So I hope you like torpedoes. Because drat the torpedoes, they're getting buffed.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


To be fair torpedoes are rather mediocre if you build them "properly", that is canon-style with just one in front (and maybe a second in back) with maybe a tac skill. Problem is a full torpedo boat with all the assorted traits and such is kind of silly even now, yeah.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Just waiting for a minefan

OGS-Remix
Sep 4, 2007

Totally surviving on my own. On LAND!
I can't load the game client at all, do I just need to wait for a patch or something?

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

OGS-Remix posted:

I can't load the game client at all, do I just need to wait for a patch or something?

Yeah they broke it good for everyone. Nobody can access it anymore and they've been trying to fix it since yesterday.

Game dead, etc

Teron D Amun
Oct 9, 2010

OGS-Remix posted:

I can't load the game client at all, do I just need to wait for a patch or something?

the patch on Tuesday introduced some major bugs that eventually turned into a much larger issue and whatever fixes they have applied so far arent working with the unable to login or crash issues

edit: and apparently Neverwinter is having the same issues

Teron D Amun fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Apr 7, 2023

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

Asimo posted:

To be fair torpedoes are rather mediocre if you build them "properly", that is canon-style with just one in front (and maybe a second in back) with maybe a tac skill. Problem is a full torpedo boat with all the assorted traits and such is kind of silly even now, yeah.
At the high end, everything is ridiculous. Torp boats don't even come close to the silliness of thalaron builds - I think that's up to 11m DPS in ISE now? Anyway, torp builds are really only great for pushing ISE leaderboards if you ignore the thalaron builds - for just about any other elite queue EPG builds will do better, and below elite things don't live long enough for the torps to travel to them. I don't mind the new designer buffing them for regular players, because it's not like the DPS crowd's builds can get any more ridiculous than they already are.

Teron D Amun
Oct 9, 2010

so the current fix seems to be open launcher -> download patch -> close launcher -> open launcher -> patch -> repeat until you hit the 10GB patch

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Teron D Amun posted:

so the current fix seems to be open launcher -> download patch -> close launcher -> open launcher -> patch -> repeat until you hit the 10GB patch

And after you get into the game and do whatever, then close it and want to play again... you get to repeat the whole process.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

OGS-Remix posted:

I can't load the game client at all, do I just need to wait for a patch or something?

Yeah, I was running the game fine yesterday and now hit this.

Cryptic gonna Cryptic, I guess.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


g0del posted:

Torp boats don't even come close to the silliness of thalaron builds
Come to think of it, how are those built anyway? I know *of* them but never bothered to look into it since going for max ISE DPS is basically just masturbation. There's literally no other content like it and everything else actually requires, say, movement or actual interaction.

Teron D Amun
Oct 9, 2010

DancingShade posted:

And after you get into the game and do whatever, then close it and want to play again... you get to repeat the whole process.

well you can try to make a copy of your x64 folder in sto/live and replace it after you exit

Asimo posted:

Come to think of it, how are those built anyway? I know *of* them but never bothered to look into it since going for max ISE DPS is basically just masturbation. There's literally no other content like it and everything else actually requires, say, movement or actual interaction.

should still be viable, its an older list https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1-sT2uMLFTvf_SJyukU42vXhRESkPIT_0/edit#slide=id.p47

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Oh I meant the Thalaron build, I know how to make a torpedo boat. :downs: (still a good reference though)

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Teron D Amun posted:

so the current fix seems to be open launcher -> download patch -> close launcher -> open launcher -> patch -> repeat until you hit the 10GB patch

saw the post about the console, decided i wanted it for my scihole ship build that absolutely wrecks everything in a 10km radius already, ran into this, game doesn't launch period no matter how many times i open the launcher and try to update, so welp.

edit: oddly enough after 10 tries or something stupid it worked and let me actually start the client. bizarre.
edit2: lol only now do i notice the first contact day event doesn't start till the 12th :downs:

HiroProtagonist fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Apr 7, 2023

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Yikes had a launcher update and now it won't even launch the launcher. Hangs up at some little trying to connect window.

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

Yeah they're still working on fixing it. Everyone should sit tight and wait until later to play the game they all hate :)

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


The worst enemy of sto players, being forced to play better games for a couple days

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

FuturePastNow posted:

The worst enemy of sto players, being forced to play better games for a couple days

Folks its just enough time for you all to buy Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire, and get hooked on it!

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
STO downloaded another big patch and I can play again with no problems so far.

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

And we're getting a free Elite Boff, Elite Captain, and T6-X token for our trouble, in addition to the event extension.

https://twitter.com/trekonlinegame/status/1644432294407712768

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Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Oh that's nice. Honestly I just feel bad for the folks still at Cryptic, this was a cataclysmic fuckup and on a holiday weekend at that.

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