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Also David Pecker has prosecutorial immunity to testify as a rebuttal witness against Costello in the hush money case, which he did today. And Jack Smith has finally gotten subpoenas to Meadows, Miller, Scavino, and so many more last week. Add Pence to that list soon, I think. And Corcoran has to turn over tapes of conversations with Trump, too; doesn't he? There are just lots of indications of blood in the water now.
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Corcoran presumably has already produced materials, last week before he came in to testify on Thursday.
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More bad news for Trump as the wheels of justice continue to grind along: Mike Pence must testify about conversations he had with Donald Trump leading up to January 6, judge rules quote:A federal judge has decided that former Vice President Mike Pence must testify to a grand jury about conversations he had with Donald Trump leading up to January 6, 2021, according to multiple sources familiar with a recent federal court ruling.
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Deteriorata posted:More bad news for Trump as the wheels of justice continue to grind along: So he can still plead the fifth and say nothing?
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Mar 28, 2023 20:21
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Silly Burrito posted:So he can still plead the fifth and say nothing? Sure. There's nothing that prohibits that.
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Mar 28, 2023 20:27
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Silly Burrito posted:So he can still plead the fifth and say nothing? Only if they get married. Or if he's worried he'd implicate himself in a crime.
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Zotix posted:Sure. There's nothing that prohibits that. He can be forced to talk if they immunize him.
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Mar 28, 2023 20:36
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cr0y posted:He can be forced to talk if they immunize him. Don't you have to accept immunity? Can you really be immunized against your will?
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Fuschia tude posted:Don't you have to accept immunity? Can you really be immunized against your will? Not until Emperor Fauci takes over
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Mar 28, 2023 21:45
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Silly Burrito posted:So he can still plead the fifth and say nothing? Says that he can 5th on his actions as acting President of the Senate on 1/6, not on everything - especially his conversations with Trump.
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PainterofCrap posted:Says that he can 5th on his actions as acting President of the Senate on 1/6, not on everything - especially his conversations with Trump. If that sounds weird, that's because it is. The Speech and Debate clause pertains to legislators, not the executive branch. It's unlikely to shield Pence from very much here, but the judge would appear to agree with the underlying idea that the VP can sometimes be a member of two branches of government simultaneously. Edit: Politico ain't great but it'll do here. That's the past reporting I meant. Also all this poo poo is sealed so everybody's just kind of speculating and citing "sources close to X" now. Could be it's all wrong. AtraMorS fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Mar 28, 2023 |
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Mar 28, 2023 22:31
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The VP is the president of the Senate, it's a weird exception.
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cr0y posted:The VP is the president of the Senate, it's a weird exception. Maybe weird was a bad word, but it's an interesting argument anyway. I can see why the president of the Senate might ought have a degree of that protection, but I also appreciate that the decision appears to be limited to, "Things you did going to/coming from/inside the physical building of Congress." It's probably the strictest interpretation you could make without rejecting it outright. I don't want a broad protection intended for legislators to start giving the executive even more cover than it already has. That's kind of getting off track of the Jan. 6th stuff though.
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AtraMorS posted:Now it's an exception, presumably. No VP has ever asserted this kind of protection before, and if it applies to Pence's duties on the 6th, what other of the VP's duties might it apply to in the future? Or the chief justice during impeachment? (Don't know if that one's been tried or not.) This isn't exactly the first time someone's pulled this stunt. Cheney tried it before during one of the W administration's many clashes with Congress, I wanna say over AGAG's conveniently bad memory?
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Captain_Maclaine posted:This isn't exactly the first time someone's pulled this stunt. Cheney tried it before during one of the W administration's many clashes with Congress, I wanna say over AGAG's conveniently bad memory? My political memory from those years doesn't go that deep but it's not like it'd be out of character for Cheney to try it. But he never actually got a court to agree, did he?
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Won't someone do something about all these witches
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SICK WITCH definitely gonna be someone's DJ name
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Just leave these poor sick witches alone! they've got problems enough as it is What is wrong with the world today
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cr0y posted:Good morning Lol yes it's definitely the grand jury that has dismissed themselves for the week
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NY grand jury going on break from April 5-24. Lol and lmao. The gears of justice stops for Christian holidays.
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Zotix posted:NY grand jury going on break from April 5-24. Lol and lmao. The gears of justice stops for Christian holidays. Unless you're being tongue-in-cheek, I think it's more likely tied to when schools are on spring break. I suppose some juror celebrates Eid al Fitr on April 21st so the judge just said, "Fine, you're all off from Erev Pesach through Eid al Fitr, that gets all of the Abrahamic religions", but it's more likely it's just a bunch of people taking PTO those couple weeks.
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Ynglaur posted:Unless you're being tongue-in-cheek, I think it's more likely tied to when schools are on spring break. I suppose some juror celebrates Eid al Fitr on April 21st so the judge just said, "Fine, you're all off from Erev Pesach through Eid al Fitr, that gets all of the Abrahamic religions", but it's more likely it's just a bunch of people taking PTO those couple weeks. NY public schools get April 6-14th off. Not sure why they're going til the 24th unless its because the judge's kids go to private school that lets out that late or something. (Around here Easter is like a three day weekend and spring break was in mid-March).
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Oracle posted:NY public schools get April 6-14th off. Not sure why they're going til the 24th unless its because the judge's kids go to private school that lets out that late or something. (Around here Easter is like a three day weekend and spring break was in mid-March). Ah, thanks. I always forget other states have consistent holidays. (In CT different schools are off on different weeks).
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cr0y posted:Good morning I read "I HAVE GAINED..." and my mind went immediately "sentience".
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Yeah I just saw another tweet saying don't expect any news until the end of April if anything is even going to happen.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, we've got him. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/03/30/nyregion/trump-indictment-news
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kiimo posted:yyyyep I'm now curious if the Georgia or any Jan6th stuff will also drop as they were supposedly aligning on this stuff? Ahhahhha vvv mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Mar 30, 2023 |
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cr0y posted:Good morning Good evening!
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crosspostingRogue Elephant posted:Wow it's a felony indictment too. I'm really curious as to what they can charge him with. Some sort of money laundering or fraud type deal?
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Haha tricked everyone!  I can't read NYT but glimpsed something about a request to surrender?
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:Haha tricked everyone! The Guardian (and most other places, I expect) has an article too. They also say that it could easily be a year or multiple to grind through the case, though.
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Yeap they're starting to bleed in. Gonna be a great weekend. Someone can do a better job, it's not Dewey but I can't help myself. 
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Randalor posted:So was the reason they're taking a month off then because they expect it to take that long to lay seige to Mar-a-Lago and starve him out and into custody? The AP says his attorneys have arranged for him to surrender on Monday. https://apnews.com/article/trump-hush-money-new-york-indictment-election-027d0e5ac1881a4c55c6379deae75faa
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