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Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
I honestly don't know. I've definitely had local Thai weed that wasn't very potent. Like I was on a beach on an island earlier this month and got lunch at a restaurant and the owner was like, "Hey want to hit a bong with me?" so I did and it was like a light breezy high for a couple of minutes.

But then I went to a place near my house and bought a gram of oreo gelato wedding cake or something and I had to coach myself through getting home because reality had come unsown.

Some of my Thai friends have some locally sourced weed they want me to try this weekend, and it says "Thai stick" on the bag but I'm not sure if "Thai stick" refers to a specific strain of weed or just weed grown in Thailand in general.

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eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,
Isn’t a Thai stick an actual form factor, like a blunt or a joint? Rolled in newspaper I think (source: a loquacious Thai high limit baccarat flea)

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
My actual knowledge of weed is really not that great and I am not much of a smoker to begin with. I typically just buy a couple of grams of weed and make brownies and those do me good.

Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006

MAGNUM
thai farmers used to tie bamboo sticks to the cannabis to add strength so huge buds don't go flopping over, like you'd do with tomatoes. then they'd dry them and compress the whole thing into a roll with the stick still inside and sell them like that. nowadays people replicate that by skewering a bunch of buds then compressing them and wrapping them in leaves like a big green cigar on a stick. thai stick can also refer to the variety of plant they commonly grew in thailand because that's the stuff that would come on a stick.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
This is apparently what I'm getting tomorrow. I remain dubious as to what it will look like when I tear it open.



And this is what my friend grew on their farm. Doesn't look particularly great, but I'm happy to give it a try.



Compare that to what I buy from the store.



Thailand is a land of contrasts.

Anyway, this is the latest batch of brownies I made. They're not the most powerful I've made, but that was on purpose. The high takes about 2 hours to kick in and lasts for like 3 total, but is relatively mild and is mostly just useful for falling asleep and waking up feeling refreshed. I have made brownies prior to this batch that were described as "nuclear" by the individuals who tested them, but that's not really useful for the middle of the week. These though pair great with a bottle of Leo.



Anyway, if any of you end up in Thailand in the near future, I'm always happy to share!

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
😎❄️🌃🥤🧋🍹👌💯

Stink Billyums posted:

thai farmers used to tie bamboo sticks to the cannabis to add strength so huge buds don't go flopping over, like you'd do with tomatoes. then they'd dry them and compress the whole thing into a roll with the stick still inside and sell them like that. nowadays people replicate that by skewering a bunch of buds then compressing them and wrapping them in leaves like a big green cigar on a stick. thai stick can also refer to the variety of plant they commonly grew in thailand because that's the stuff that would come on a stick.

Yeh I was curious if you can still buy it in stick format

Yes I grew up reading the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers why do you ask

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
I'm in jiangmen bitches.

It's like impossible to get RMB here.

My wife had to get her sister to exchange money because my wife's ID is expired and even then they wouldn't give us bills, all the money got zapped onto her mom's phone which we now have to take with us if we want to buy anything.

Also, when we got off the plane in HK there were signs all over saying "CBD IS STILL A DRUG" 7 years in prison for something non-psychoactive. I ate all my edibles on the plane.

Also been impossible to access porn. If I want to jerk off I got to draw some huge boobs and use that so I'm getting pretty good at drawing boobs.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

It's super weird how HK is way more strict on that than mainland China. CBD is barely restricted in the mainland. And that's true for a bunch of other things, too.

There were all those vape regulations that went into effect last year but at least there still are vapes.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.




YAY for Chinese cartoons!

Especially ones where the wolfwife beats the wolfhusband with a frying pan.

Rabelais D
Dec 11, 2012

ts'u nnu k'u k'o t'khye:
A demon doth defecate at thy door
Lol at someone experiencing the shock of scan this qr code to do absolutely anything every ten seconds

Renreeja
Oct 11, 2007

One of the dads I met through my kids daycare is convinced weed will be legal in 10 yrs here in South Korea. Like the infrastructure is being quietly laid down. Im wondering wtf legal weed would look like here, if we'll see smoked out businessmen laying in the streets.

Speaking of 2 days ago I was walking with my toddler and we discovered a passed out guy in the street, around 4:30pm. I started knudging him woth my foot "Seonsaegnim! Quinchanueseyo?!" suddenly more people showed up and called 119, the cops came and started slapping the guy, shaking him violently till he got up. My kid didnt even notice the commotion, he just kept looking up at the sky, "Moon! MOON!"

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!
i reiterate my cold prediciton that japan will legalize it in the mid to late 2030s

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

lol that Asia is so backwards the emergency number is 119

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



lmao what kind of country has to resort to 9 for an emergency number

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


119 is for the fire department and ambulances, 110 is for the cops

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Which number for the secret police?

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
It's kind of weird to me that porn is also technically illegal in Thailand and some of the bigger sites are blocked. You'll see on the news every few months about a couple being arrested for running an OnlyFans page as well.

I remember when I first moved here, I'd go to like a tech mall to look at video game peripherals or computer components and then dudes would casually walk up to you, pull a binder out of a trench coat, and flip through pages of pornographic VCDs for sale. It was kind of quaint really.

Very different than Taiwan where there are porn and sex shops on every street corner, but don't you dare look at a marijuana cigarette.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Atlas Hugged posted:

It's kind of weird to me that porn is also technically illegal in Thailand and some of the bigger sites are blocked. You'll see on the news every few months about a couple being arrested for running an OnlyFans page as well.

I remember when I first moved here, I'd go to like a tech mall to look at video game peripherals or computer components and then dudes would casually walk up to you, pull a binder out of a trench coat, and flip through pages of pornographic VCDs for sale. It was kind of quaint really.

Very different than Taiwan where there are porn and sex shops on every street corner, but don't you dare look at a marijuana cigarette.

My cable package comes with two free VOD porn movies every week, I don't think they advertise this fact.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

GoutPatrol posted:

My cable package comes with two free VOD porn movies every week, I don't think they advertise this fact.

Twice a week whether you need it or not!

url
Apr 23, 2007

internet gnuru

kntfkr posted:


Also been impossible to access porn. If I want to jerk off I got to draw some huge boobs and use that so I'm getting pretty good at drawing boobs.

While I applaud taking the opportunity to practice the fine arts, torrenting porn doesn't require a VPN.

There are plenty of domestic addresses that don't need a VPN too for that late 90's and 00's porn experience.

Borscht
Jun 4, 2011
Wait, y'all need porn to jack off? What about the infinite power of imagination? Barring that, I assume you have no memories sufficiently hot enough to get you goin due to your ineffectiveness in bed.

yugioh mishima
Oct 22, 2020

Atlas Hugged posted:

Very different than Taiwan where there are porn and sex shops on every street corner, but don't you dare look at a marijuana cigarette.

Lol i was gonna say in response to korea/japan legalising weed discussion, i don't see that happening in taiwan any time soon. they banned vaping just a couple of weeks ago and i'm always quite surprised by how anti-drug a lot of people here are, even though the people i talk to and work with are mostly young, progressive, educated etc. it's weird

edit: i had a look on shopee and all of the tobacco vape stuff is gone, but you can still buy weed vape batteries lmao

yugioh mishima fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Mar 31, 2023

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

yugioh mishima posted:

Lol i was gonna say in response to korea/japan legalising weed discussion, i don't see that happening in taiwan any time soon. they banned vaping just a couple of weeks ago and i'm always quite surprised by how anti-drug a lot of people here are, even though the people i talk to and work with are mostly young, progressive, educated etc. it's weird

Well I guess the question is why would the young, progressive, educated folks be inherently pro-legalization?

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020





Because if you're educated, you're expected to actually have some knowledge about science and how the legalisation of weed can lead to fewer deaths due to alcohol and opiates, and that weed itself is a fairly benign substance if you treat it like most (non-alcoholic) people treat their beer.

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin
I don’t think education is going to make people from other cultures inherently see the world the way you do. I largely agree that marijuana legalization would be good, but I don’t think that a person should just expect someone to instantly agree with them about it just because they had access to higher education

Renreeja
Oct 11, 2007

what would the reaction of Confucious be if he took a bong rip to the face

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Taiwan is weird because betel nut puts insane pressure on the healthcare industry since it causes cancer with some regularity. I've seen loads of elderly Taiwanese men missing half their faces and the betel nut is almost certainly the cause. There's just no way they're going to regulate or ban it though. Same with cigarettes. Too much of the local economy depends on it.

Meanwhile, marijuana, which can largely be safely consumed if you don't smoke it, is still treated like the Devil's Lettuce from a 1950s propaganda film. I have personally vomited in the streets of Taipei because I've had too much to drink and been offered another drink to wash my mouth out on more than one occasion, but marijuana iS dAnGeRoUs.

Taiwan is also still largely in favor of the death penalty last I checked as well despite literally an infinite number of reasons to be opposed to it.

High education and progressive values in one area don't automatically translate into shared values with other progressives around the world is what I'm saying.

url
Apr 23, 2007

internet gnuru

thetoughestbean posted:

I don’t think education is going to make people from other cultures inherently see the world the way you do. I largely agree that marijuana legalization would be good, but I don’t think that a person should just expect someone to instantly agree with them about it just because they had access to higher education

Weed suffers a weird reputation across a bunch of Asia since it is associated with Anti-authoritarianism, relaxing, and urban black culture rather than being productive 16 hours a day.

For some reason ketamine and meth are seen as better choices.

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020





thetoughestbean posted:

I don’t think education is going to make people from other cultures inherently see the world the way you do. I largely agree that marijuana legalization would be good, but I don’t think that a person should just expect someone to instantly agree with them about it just because they had access to higher education

The good thing about facts is that you don't need to agree with them for them to be true. The core of higher education is finding facts, doubting them, and proving or disproving them with scientific research or literature.

Someone is still free to think 'Weed is bad because relaxing in your time off work is worse than preventing people from becoming criminals in the illegal weed market/using alcohol as a way to black out/etc' but... yeah.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Atlas Hugged posted:


Taiwan is also still largely in favor of the death penalty last I checked as well despite literally an infinite number of reasons to be opposed to it.

High education and progressive values in one area don't automatically translate into shared values with other progressives around the world is what I'm saying.

I would say in my 10 years (Jesus) of teaching high school kids, if I ask there has been a significant shift in what kids say to me in favor of banning it. If I asked a class in 2015 most kids in class would be for it, now that has definitely shifted. not a real sample size, only asking rich kids, etc, but it has changed.

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

GoutPatrol posted:

I would say in my 10 years (Jesus) of teaching high school kids, if I ask there has been a significant shift in what kids say to me in favor of banning it. If I asked a class in 2015 most kids in class would be for it, now that has definitely shifted. not a real sample size, only asking rich kids, etc, but it has changed.

Do you mean they would be for the death penalty in 2015 and that’s changing or for banning the death penalty in 2015 and that’s changed?

LimaBiker posted:

The good thing about facts is that you don't need to agree with them for them to be true. The core of higher education is finding facts, doubting them, and proving or disproving them with scientific research or literature.

People don’t base their worldviews on facts.

WarpedLichen
Aug 14, 2008


Cultural inertia is a big deal too - tobacco is widely known to be harmful but plenty of educated people in China are still using it (certainly far more than in the US), whereas weed is relatively more exotic and stigmatized.

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo

Renreeja posted:

One of the dads I met through my kids daycare is convinced weed will be legal in 10 yrs here in South Korea. Like the infrastructure is being quietly laid down. Im wondering wtf legal weed would look like here, if we'll see smoked out businessmen laying in the streets.

Speaking of 2 days ago I was walking with my toddler and we discovered a passed out guy in the street, around 4:30pm. I started knudging him woth my foot "Seonsaegnim! Quinchanueseyo?!" suddenly more people showed up and called 119, the cops came and started slapping the guy, shaking him violently till he got up. My kid didnt even notice the commotion, he just kept looking up at the sky, "Moon! MOON!"

I don't even think weed will be legal here in New Zealand in 10 years.

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012
K兒 just has a better ring to it than 大麻

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012

Beartaco posted:

I don't even think weed will be legal here in New Zealand in 10 years.

it's like that so cops can bust people they don't like and whoever's not sharing

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

WarpedLichen posted:

Cultural inertia is a big deal too - tobacco is widely known to be harmful but plenty of educated people in China are still using it (certainly far more than in the US), whereas weed is relatively more exotic and stigmatized.

I'm not entirely sure how true this is. This may be apocryphal, but I remember being told that Japanese insurance companies for instance rejected Western studies on the harmful effects of tobacco because the studies were not done on Japanese people, so they didn't count, and that was justification enough to ignore the research.

Sure, every country here prints the lung pictures and other tumors on the cartons, but no one pays attention to that.

yugioh mishima
Oct 22, 2020

thetoughestbean posted:

I don’t think education is going to make people from other cultures inherently see the world the way you do. I largely agree that marijuana legalization would be good, but I don’t think that a person should just expect someone to instantly agree with them about it just because they had access to higher education

it's just as odd - if not more so - that people in the west have access to lots of information about how alcohol is loving terrible for you, and yet in the uk for instance alcohol is such a huge part of life and so many people (including very educated people) drink dangerous amounts pretty much every weekend. every culture has its weirdnesses and things that don't quite make sense. i'm not judging them for it or expecting them to agree with me, but i can still think it's weird. it's ok! everyone is weird

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

thetoughestbean posted:

Do you mean they would be for the death penalty in 2015 and that’s changing or for banning the death penalty in 2015 and that’s changed?

People don’t base their worldviews on facts.

They used to be pro death penalty and that is changing (for the better)

I ate so much loving ice cream at the Singapore museum of ice cream but now my tummy feels empty even though I ate so much ice cream

so I'm getting moussaka

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


Atlas Hugged posted:

I'm not entirely sure how true this is. This may be apocryphal, but I remember being told that Japanese insurance companies for instance rejected Western studies on the harmful effects of tobacco because the studies were not done on Japanese people, so they didn't count, and that was justification enough to ignore the research.

Sure, every country here prints the lung pictures and other tumors on the cartons, but no one pays attention to that.

that may have been true at some point, but insurance rates in japan are higher for smokers now.

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Renreeja
Oct 11, 2007

yeah its def a thing people be thinking different politically in asia, South Korea its the crazy cult far right party that has guaranteed universal income as a plank. Makes me wonder if there is anything like that in Japan or Taiwan

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