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Russell Wilson went for two firsts, two seconds, and three players. Matt Stafford went for two firsts. Carson Wentz went for two thirds. So, you know, depends on which agenda you want to push I guess.
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Hey man I think the Jets should probably receive a pick just for taking that salary dump off the Packers hands!
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fsif posted:Russell Wilson went for two firsts, two seconds, and three players. None of those guys were considered 1-2 years away from retirement. Stafford was 32, Wilson 33, Wentz like 28 or something. Rodgers is 39 right now and has talked about imminently retiring for the last 3 years. There’s a reason Wilson and Stafford had multiple suitors driving up their price and Rodgers just had the Jets.
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Half the Stafford cost was eating the Goff contract, and yeah Russ was supposed to be a long term answer
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Wilson was 34 and looked broken in Seattle so long term is in the eye of the beholder I guess
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Also Matt was a ticking time bomb if injuries that you hoped kept together to win as soon as possible before breaking down Which to be fair is what happened
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CharlestheHammer posted:Wilson was 34 and looked broken in Seattle so long term is in the eye of the beholder I guess He was 33 when the trade happened. He turned 34 during the season. Also his last season in Seattle was better than Rodgers last season in Green Bay, so if he looked broken the prognosis for 39 year old Aaron doesn’t seem great.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:None of those guys were considered 1-2 years away from retirement. Stafford was 32, Wilson 33, Wentz like 28 or something. Rodgers is 39 right now and has talked about imminently retiring for the last 3 years. Okay but at the start of the offseason last year, I think everyone would have valued Ryan much more highly than Wentz; Ryan ended up fetching considerably less more because of contextual factors (dealt late, Atlanta had no LEVERAGE) than via a straight valuation. Anyway, I do feel like just a second is probably the fairest compensation for Rodgers at this state in his career, but Leverage Wars is putting us in a weird place.
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fsif posted:Okay but at the start of the offseason last year, I think everyone would have valued Ryan much more highly than Wentz; Ryan ended up fetching considerably less more because of contextual factors (dealt late, Atlanta had no LEVERAGE) than via a straight valuation. Sure. If the Packers had traded Rodgers last season they would have gotten a haul, but they’re a year too late. Now his market is one team and his value is whatever they’re willing to pay for him, which will probably feel too low for a recent two time MVP and HoFer but also too high for an crotchety old dipshit coming off an injury riddled and disappointing season.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:crotchety old dipshit Now there's a forum username 
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fsif posted:Russell Wilson went for two firsts, two seconds, and three players. None of those guys were 39 and carrying a 60 million dollar cap hit. Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Hey man I think the Jets should probably receive a pick just for taking that salary dump off the Packers hands! Yes. Unironically yes. The only reason the Jets feel they have to pay anything is the context of their history and QB situation.
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Mar 30, 2023 18:08
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sweet fancy moses just complete this stupid rear end trade already
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Never! I want it to be midnight of day 1 of the draft and the trade still hasn't happened yet.
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This is an elite quarterback one year removed from an MVP run who only had a down year because of his broken thumb and rookie receivers… but you'd have to pay me to take him!
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fsif posted:This is an elite quarterback one year removed from an MVP run who only had a down year because of his broken thumb and rookie receivers… but you'd have to pay me to take him! Lamar's 3 years removed from an MVP run and took his team to playoffs all but one year since then, and a fifth of the league publicly said "we suddenly think injuries matter" You can have dumb fans, you can have dumb owners; you won't always have both, but in this league it's impossible to have neither
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mcmagic posted:The only reason the Jets feel they have to pay anything is the context of their history and QB situation. So very much to unravel here.
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Kalli posted:Never! I want it to be midnight of day 1 of the draft and the trade still hasn't happened yet. Trade won’t happen until the Hall of Fame game 
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fsif posted:This is an elite quarterback one year removed from an MVP run who only had a down year because of his broken thumb and rookie receivers… but you'd have to pay me to take him! Well it’s not like he’s free. That contract loving sucks.
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fartknocker posted:Trade won’t happen until the Hall of Fame game I just want it to be day 2 of the draft, pick 42 on the clock, footage of the Jets GM beet faced, yelling into a phone as time ticks down... then suddenly there's no pick, but the Jets are still on the clock because they also have pick 43, and as time ticks down.... the Falcons suddenly have a guy with a card in hand waiting for the timer to hit so he can run up and turn it in.
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I mean despite what talking heads keep trying to convince people it’s definitely going up to the draft. Which means we got three more weeks of by the end of the week nonsense
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:So very much to unravel here. It's a franchise with a 97 year playoff drought and a 275 year home playoff game drought and the fans are loving livid to win. That is the only real pressure on the Jets.
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mcmagic posted:It's a franchise with a 97 year playoff drought and a 275 year home playoff game drought and the fans are loving livid to win. That is the only real pressure on the Jets. Oh, so nobody is going to be fired if they open the season with Zach Wilson at QB1?
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Just announce it already https://twitter.com/obj/status/1641529060496150530?s=46&t=P3XssXLM-C4CAr7AH0YIKA
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Oh, so nobody is going to be fired if they open the season with Zach Wilson at QB1? I don't think that is an actual real option that could happen.
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I hope not (well actually I do). Joe Douglas should be fired from a canon if Wilson is starting week one.
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Well they’re probably not thrilled about paying Lamar 250+ guaranteed so maybe the packers do have some LEVERAGE if that’s the case??Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:fired from a canon Jets are also lacking a Great American playBook to make this happen Pontius Pilate fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Mar 30, 2023 |
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I mean if you can't get this trade done going into the draft, you draft some QB in round 2 and go with god. No loving way does Zach start a game without a massive series of unfortunate events.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I hope not (well actually I do). Joe Douglas should be fired from a canon if Wilson is starting week one. He should be fired from a cannon if he's the backup behind a 40 year old starter too tbh
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I know I've said there are worse divisions in the Worst Division race, but if this one tries another year of half its starting QBs being Mac and Zach they have to at least be given a significant boost up the rankings
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Kalli posted:I mean if you can't get this trade done going into the draft, you draft some QB in round 2 and go with god. No loving way does Zach start a game without a massive series of unfortunate events. Yea. The Jets don’t have any *good* options but they’ve got options that aren’t starting with Zack Wilson. Draft a guy, trade for Tannehill, sign Matt Ryan, whatever…nobody is getting fired before the year starts if they don’t land Rodgers. If the seasons goes badly some folks are getting fired but there’s a pretty reasonable chance of that even if they land Rodgers.
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Drafting a QB in the second just because is maybe the saddest desperation move possible. I think sadder than the Cam Newton experience
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CharlestheHammer posted:Drafting a QB in the second just because is maybe the saddest desperation move possible. Depends on who. Even if they get Rodgers is there they’ve got no plan for the future and no backup on the roster on the roster other than Wilson. If they can get Hooker in the 2nd round that’s not a bad outcome.
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Kalli posted:I just want it to be day 2 of the draft, pick 42 on the clock, footage of the Jets GM beet faced, yelling into a phone as time ticks down... then suddenly there's no pick, but the Jets are still on the clock because they also have pick 43, and as time ticks down.... the Falcons suddenly have a guy with a card in hand waiting for the timer to hit so he can run up and turn it in. It would be an excellent addition to the supercut of Jets draft disasters
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Kalli posted:I just want it to be day 2 of the draft, pick 42 on the clock, footage of the Jets GM beet faced, yelling into a phone as time ticks down... then suddenly there's no pick, but the Jets are still on the clock because they also have pick 43, and as time ticks down.... the Falcons suddenly have a guy with a card in hand waiting for the timer to hit so he can run up and turn it in. Would this be a worthy addition to JetsDraftBlunders.mp4? I think so…
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Chris James 2 posted:another year of half its starting QBs being Mac and Zach The AFC Disney Channel Division
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Thread is writing JetsDraft fan fiction again.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Thread is writing JetsDraft fan fiction again. It's fiction to imagine the Jets making bad decisions?
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