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The in season tournament is the only conceivable way for Dame to win a "championship" with the Blazers so it is in fact a very good thing.
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rjmccall posted:Just the fact that it’ll be mid-season games between top teams where both teams will actually be playing all their starters makes it pretty enticing.
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 Draymond so worried about his bag flying awayhttps://twitter.com/Money23Green/status/1642204723297267712
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verbal enema posted:idk bout that but they got mad swag Kim Mulkey is a dusty old bitch!!!!
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WhyteRyce posted:
Seems like it's just terminal warriorsbrain, that any limitation on their ability to add talent is an affront to god and nature. The mechanics of basketball's revenue split (which, as it doesn't account for franchise valuation increases, is stupid horseshit) means that this won't reduce player salaries but may change how they're allocated... and it seems like that pressure would be towards boosting the value of basketball's "middle class" rather than further pushing towards the 3max+mins model?
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Paracaidas posted:I mean, gently caress Draymond forever but with the "easing in over a period of years", I don't think it'll cost him money? Seeing warriors fans in the comments saying winning teams keep winning because they are just better run than bad teams while pretending the Spurs do not exist anymore is fantastic
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verbal enema posted:idk bout that but they got mad swag
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Its the myth that drafting well is the right way to build a team. The draft is to create parity and if a team drafts/develops multiple good players, there has to be a backstop somewhere.
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WhyteRyce posted:LeBron wouldn’t pay for pandora $500k will look First prize is a Twitter Blue checkmark
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kingcobweb posted:I assume players can vote down the CBA right? Yeah, the players and owners will get a ratifying vote. The people who negotiated this for the players were assigned by the players and usually given pretty straightforward instructions so this will very likely pass.
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NickRoweFillea posted:Kim Mulkey is a dusty old bitch!!!!
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Taking the tax payer MLE from teams absolutely is a strike at the NBA middle class. Several teams once again did not use their regular MLE to avoid paying tax so it’s hard to see this as anything but the elimination of some mid level contracts. Lockback posted:65 games seems a little too high to me but I wonder who would have been impacted by that in the past? Ja Morant MIP? (I don't know if MIP is one of the awards that requires it). My theory is that Brad Beal’s previous contract had a bonus for making an all nba team and we already know Leonsis will lock a league out for his pocketbook.
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Yeah feel free to hate the warriors and Dray or whatever, but he's not wrong.
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Spring Break My Heart posted:If you go by percentage of games played than Embiid would have been ineligible in 2020-21 when he finished 2nd in MVP voting. So basically All-NBA is going to become a young man's award? Hard to see Curry, Lebron, Durant, or in a few years, Embiid, playing 65+ games in a season. I guess that's good for allowing more younger players to secure larger contacts in their prime.
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Rick posted:Taking the tax payer MLE from teams absolutely is a strike at the NBA middle class. Several teams once again did not use their regular MLE to avoid paying tax so it’s hard to see this as anything but the elimination of some mid level contracts. I agree with this but it does probably push things towards parity (which right now I don't know that you need to do but w/e). Keep in mind this just takes that money and redistributes it, so as much as it's a blow against the NBA middle class, it benefits the rest proportionally. Rick posted:My theory is that Brad Beal’s previous contract had a bonus for making an all nba team and we already know Leonsis will lock a league out for his pocketbook. A sound theory, tbh. DJ_Mindboggler posted:So basically All-NBA is going to become a young man's award? Hard to see Curry, Lebron, Durant, or in a few years, Embiid, playing 65+ games in a season. I guess that's good for allowing more younger players to secure larger contacts in their prime. Also not a bad theory for some of the real reason to push this.
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Lockback posted:I agree with this but it does probably push things towards parity (which right now I don't know that you need to do but w/e). Keep in mind this just takes that money and redistributes it, so as much as it's a blow against the NBA middle class, it benefits the rest proportionally. Teams don't spend money because they don't want to. The Bulls knew Lonzo was donzo for the year but waited until the day after they could have used the exception to add someone. Like one of the bucks owners bailed because the team is going to be paying the LuxTax and they didn't want to do that. Dexo fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Apr 1, 2023 |
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Dejan Bimble posted:Dwyanye Wade doesnt deserve HOF. The nba rewarded his tactic of running into defenders for years. Low skill low morals player. If anything his career should be erased from official records He should’ve been executed by firing squad after the 2006 finals for crimes against watchable basketball
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i am a moron posted:He should’ve been executed by firing squad after the 2006 finals for crimes against watchable basketball Well Idaho has some good news for you
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Dexo posted:Teams don't spend money because they don't want to. Sure but another reason teams don't spend money is when they can't. So if the highest spending teams (which correlates to highest performing teams) can't spend on a tax-MLE player it brings them down a little. There are probably guys who'd rather play for a mid-level team for some of their cap room rather than play for the warriors/Lakers/whoever for the minimum (instead of 6.7m taxMLE). I don't think we really need to do much right now to create more parity but I think the bigger issue is some teams just don't give a poo poo about living in the tax, and if the luxury tax stops working then tighter cap restrictions will be the next step. There's too many owners who don't want competitive advantage to be tied to spending willingness. And note that being willing to spend more adds 0 dollars to the pool of money the players get,. It just moves money from other teams. Lockback fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Apr 1, 2023 |
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i am a moron posted:He should’ve been executed by firing squad after the 2006 finals for crimes against watchable basketball Amen
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Rick posted:we already know Leonsis will lock a league out for his pocketbook. the difference here is probably that the NBA owners saw how lockouts can damage a league to the point where they are gonna be behind MLS very soon and aren’t interested in following him I guess if the competition during a lockout would be the NHL though ironically the NBA would know they can probably press the issue against the NBAPA Isentropy fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Apr 1, 2023 |
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A mid/early season tourney where the winning team is guaranteed a play in spot would be interesting. A team like the Jazz could’ve won in December and pretty much have the Mavs eliminated by now. Only down side is if a team like the Rockets accidentally won and they killed their draft pick.
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Isentropy posted:the difference here is probably that the NBA owners saw how lockouts can damage a league to the point where they are gonna be behind MLS very soon and aren’t interested in following him The last lockout they changed the BRI split, which was the problem. I would be really surprised if they forced a lockout over these topics. The players prefer open spending so they can have more power, but keep in mind the players get their cut whether or not money is spent on contracts or not. Even if they instituted a had cap the players would get the exact same amount of money than if they allowed teams to spend whatever they want. Players always get 50% of the BRI. The contracts just decide the ratios as to who gets what. The rest is controlled by escrow.
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WhyteRyce posted:Seeing warriors fans in the comments saying winning teams keep winning because they are just better run than bad teams while pretending the Spurs do not exist anymore is fantastic What? The Spurs are a great example of a team that won a ton for years at least in part because they were run really well.
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Vox Nihili posted:What? The Spurs are a great example of a team that won a ton for years at least in part because they were run really well. Yeah, I always thought the Spurs were literally the model the Warriors were trying to follow, at least at first. The definition of a well run franchise leading to consistent success.
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Vox Nihili posted:What? The Spurs are a great example of a team that won a ton for years at least in part because they were run really well. Yes, but they haven't won much the last couple years. So, they must now be a poorly run team.
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Vox Nihili posted:What? The Spurs are a great example of a team that won a ton for years at least in part because they were run really well. You’d think that but the Spurs haven’t won in years so they are obviously not a well run team because winning is a never ending thing if you are a well run team like the Warriors
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Rick posted:Taking the tax payer MLE from teams absolutely is a strike at the NBA middle class. Several teams once again did not use their regular MLE to avoid paying tax so it’s hard to see this as anything but the elimination of some mid level contracts. Stripping a few (4, I believe?) taxpayer MLEs essentially starts a ticking clock, particularly for teams who've dealt away future draft assets in their surge above the apron... they'll no longer be able to supplement their rotations with the Ingles and Gallos of the world. The CBA's intent appears to be that it'll further disincentivize the ultra top heavy rosters (GSW: 4 players > $10m, Last year's Lakers ending at 3 players > $10m) and incentivize a more balanced approach around multiple stars (Dallas: 7 players > $10m, LAC: 8 players > $10m). I don't know if this goes far enough in making that construction unappealing/unsustainable (in conjunction with repeater taxes, etc) but if it does, turning $30m into $20m and $10m (or 10&10&10 or 15&15, etc) seems like a massive win for the NBA's middle class... at the expense of a few guys losing their MLE shot and heavily dropping the salaries of the fringe max crowd.
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Yeah the breakdown I heard is the bottom feeder teams will be getting less of a payout, making staying under the tax less appealing. Because the apron is generous, teams might peek over it a little knowing they can use the MLE. SGA continues to hustle. 1000 tommy points https://twitter.com/ClutchPointsApp/status/1641957124870897664
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1642288042395291649 Oh I missed this part. This owns.
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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1642288042395291649 >All-NBA teams will be positionless Embiid is finally in for first team! >with a 65-game minimum to be eligible for selection And Embiid is out.
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Blind Pineapple posted:A mid/early season tourney where the winning team is guaranteed a play in spot would be interesting. A team like the Jazz could’ve won in December and pretty much have the Mavs eliminated by now. Yea I think something like this would be interesting. There are probably a lot of unintended consequences it would have if a really lovely team won but if the 11 or 12 seed in a conference won it might be interesting.
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lmao when a championship contender wins, and then just relaxes for the rest of the year.
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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1642288042395291649 Goodbye guards
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