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Captain Invictus posted:that's it? well, I hope they're doing better mentally, if they were in a bad enough place that some light criticism got to them that much. That happened years ago. He got perma'd for saying chatbots were more sentient than disabled people and refused to back down from that stance So doing better mentally was never really gonna be in the cards for turdiak, in all honesty
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Gulping Again posted:That happened years ago. He got perma'd for saying chatbots were more sentient than disabled people and refused to back down from that stance Huh, is he Rutibex or did it happen twice??
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Kild posted:Huh, is he Rutibex or did it happen twice?? oh i got them mixed up. i can only remember so many different really dumb guys
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Gulping Again posted:i can only remember so many different really dumb guys Thread title?
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I mostly remember rutibex because he got super mad about getting purged from goonfleet a few years ago and tried to strongarm goonswarm directors in a thread in which he had openly discussed doing market botting etc and the economic disparity of minimum wage vs. botting in EVE 8 hours a day
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Gulping Again posted:i can only remember so many different really dumb guys Ghost Leviathan posted:Thread title?
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Don’t think we should be trying to take the heat off of Sleepy Jeff until he faces justice
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Something something goons iirc the actual originating terminology was re: native american headdresses and other stuff where it was like “if you could not put replicas of our ritual outfits for sale as halloween costumes after genociding our people a handful of generations ago that’d be pretty swell” but of course it’s the internet so it turned into a thing where people yell at half-japanese people who look too white for wearing a kimono or whatever still going to root for anyone going after us sports teams for their lovely rear end names
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:iirc the actual originating terminology was re: native american headdresses and other stuff where it was like “if you could not put replicas of our ritual outfits for sale as halloween costumes after genociding our people a handful of generations ago that’d be pretty swell” cos I was in China at the time, I recall an incident where a Chinese-American influencer put some white high school girl on blast because she wore a traditional Chinese qipao to prom, but then the mainland Chinese internet picked up on it and there were a lot of people in favor of it and wanted more people to do it
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That's really more of an issue of internet discourse generally being hot garbage. Cultural appropriation is specifically when you poo poo on items of actual cultural significance, like the headdress. A qipao is just a piece of formalwear, wearing one is categorically not appropriation. These two extremes are pretty easy to break down if you compare them to western concepts with actual institutional backing. The items on a war bonnet mark various achievements and honors bestowed by the tribe; wearing one is comparable to wearing military regalia and medals, and the latter is a crime if you are not the person who has earned those. A qipao is a status symbol indicating nothing more than that you are a person who can afford to wear and maintain a qipao. If you wear a three-piece suit you at worst out yourself as a dork rear end loser, it's never a crime to do so. There's a whole thornier middle ground of cultural commodification versus meaningful exchange to which I would never trust twitter discourse to meaningfully contribute, but whether something is specifically appropriation or not is usually pretty clear cut.
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Edited the thread OP to remove the SAD references. Let me know if you think some stuff should be put in the OP and I can revise E: Anime destroys the mind The Saddest Rhino fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Apr 2, 2023 |
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:That's really more of an issue of internet discourse generally being hot garbage. Cultural appropriation is specifically when you poo poo on items of actual cultural significance, like the headdress. A qipao is just a piece of formalwear, wearing one is categorically not appropriation. You arbitrarily decided this, there is no consensus on this term to that level but your specific examples suck because OED’s etymology for this term specifically refers to Orientalism (this is a pre-Said use of the term Orientalism, to properly conextualize) "Arthur C Christy in 1945 posted:
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Huh. Okay maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.
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Gulping Again posted:i can only remember so many different really dumb guys Ghost Leviathan posted:Thread title? Honestly, this one is pretty good too: Zulily Zoetrope posted:Okay maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.
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Lol epic CSPAM guy already showing up to call everyone pedos. Thread off to a good start
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Dr. Cool Aids posted:the Legend of the Insufferable Discussion Regarding What Cultural Appropriation is I agree this isn’t the place for such a discussion but dont like to let authoritative-sounding posts that are incorrect stand before some White idiot wears a yukata barefoot into my office during an AAPI history month campaign and claims an internet forum told him its ok. Because that’s already happened in my life and it was exceedingly stupid. (No, it wasn’t these forums.)
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He's a turdiak, turdiak on the floor And he's turdin like he's never turd before
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Edited the thread OP to remove the SAD references. Let me know if you think some stuff should be put in the OP and I can revise anime is good it can also be very, very bad.
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ulvir posted:wtf is touhou I was reading it as Toho, the Japanese studio that made a bunch of Godzilla films. I'm just as confused as you.
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DaysBefore posted:Lol epic CSPAM guy already showing up to call everyone pedos. Thread off to a good start He's so aggro lol
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Epic Cspam Guy: I called something pedophilic for no reason, and people got mad at me. This is imp zone's fault somehow.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Epic Cspam Guy: I called something pedophilic for no reason, and people got mad at me. This is imp zone's fault somehow. he did also say turdiak would be posting here under an alt ... hmm.
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Alaois posted:jonah is a gbs agent I was wrong, jonah was a cspam agent but they had to disavow him
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Gulping Again posted:oh i got them mixed up. Rutibex was that vein of soft bigot who occasionally let some racism about Muslims, homophobia, transphobia, or vile misogyny leak out over the years across a lot of different thread, and he should've been hit with a permaban a long while ago. But they were little nuggets buried in his rap sheet between big segments of more pedestrian stupid video game arguments. Still, it was very funny how he'd brag about making pirated board games by printing out scans of boards and card pieces and taping them to cereal boxes. And after he was threadbanned from the Path of Exile thread he made an alt to keep posting bad build advice there, and got upset when people knew it was him and his alt got banned.
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Alaois posted:I was wrong, jonah was a cspam agent but they had to disavow him Jonah and the Fail
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Nuns with Guns posted:Rutibex was that vein of soft bigot who occasionally let some racism about Muslims, homophobia, transphobia, or vile misogyny leak out over the years across a lot of different thread, and he should've been hit with a permaban a long while ago. But they were little nuggets buried in his rap sheet between big segments of more pedestrian stupid video game arguments. I remember him getting very serious about how witchcraft and magic were real, in CSPAM, which is quite the contrast to his later ban request because of thinking AI is sentient
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Nuns with Guns posted:Rutibex was that vein of soft bigot who occasionally let some racism about Muslims, homophobia, transphobia, or vile misogyny leak out over the years across a lot of different thread, and he should've been hit with a permaban a long while ago. But they were little nuggets buried in his rap sheet between big segments of more pedestrian stupid video game arguments. This is something that an eight-year-old child would be proud of figuring out, oh my God.
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I don't think there's any harm in wanting both witches and computers to be real, so long as you don't also dehumanize a bunch of marginalized groups for some reason in the process.
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:Thinking magic is literally real and AIs are literally sapient feels like different cheeks of the same arse in a way, but I tend to think they're viewpoints belonging to different varieties of idiot. rutibex synthesising them into one worldview struck me as special
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I have to assume anyone posting about how AI text generators represent human levels of sentience probably just had a really transformative sexual experience with a femdom chatbot, in which case more power to them.
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Mad Hamish posted:This is something that an eight-year-old child would be proud of figuring out, oh my God. lmao when i was about that age my grandma worked for the elementary school i went to and she would come home all the time with custom drawn and laminated versions of board games she knew so we could save money it owned and i wish i still had them
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exquisite tea posted:I have to assume anyone posting about how AI text generators represent human levels of sentience probably just had a really transformative sexual experience with a femdom chatbot, in which case more power to them. https://twitter.com/transitracer/status/1618164441941700608?lang=en
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Mad Hamish posted:This is something that an eight-year-old child would be proud of figuring out, oh my God. I had to dig out a picture he posted: Rutibex posted:Talisman unfun? No I don't think so! Nothing quite captures the nail biting edge of your seat dice rolling of Talisman. I would never besmirch the good name of Talisman. Just look at this custom set I made, pulling content from every beautiful edition of Talisman as well as dozens of great homebrew internet expansions. Over 1,000 adventure cards split into 5 decks (outer, inner, timescape, dungeon, city), 250 spells, and 80 classes. I initially mixed in Pathfinder Adventure cards but have since made the set 100% Talisman. Keep in mind that Talisman has a board that looks something like this when you add on all the expansions:  He was constantly recommending this game to new people. Zulily Zoetrope posted:I don't think there's any harm in wanting both witches and computers to be real, so long as you don't also dehumanize a bunch of marginalized groups for some reason in the process. There might be someone out there harmlessly wishing for that stuff, but thankfully we don't have to contemplate that with Rutibex.
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