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Burns posted:I wonder who he managed to piss off that went beyond just driving up to him in a black unmarked car and unloading an automatic into him. Russians cant afford unmarked black cars or automatic weapons
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Apr 3, 2023 00:16
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McGavin posted:On Canadian radio they said that he was critical of the war, but left out that he was critical because it wasn't brutal enough. Lol. Can i ask which news station this was? Canadian news is awful, just the worst milktoast poo poo ever.
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Apr 3, 2023 00:21
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Burns posted:Lol. Can i ask which news station this was? Canadian news is awful, just the worst milktoast poo poo ever. Hourly news on CBC, which makes it even more shameful.
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Apr 3, 2023 00:28
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Apparently they arrested some 26 girl who apparently dropped a box with a bust of a Russia commisar on it into the building to blow up the critic I saw an interesting twitter comment so take it with ZERO confirmation of anything they are saying. quote:Wrong place, wrong time. She was played by the FSB. Tatarsky was a critic of Shoigu, the Kremlin sent a message. BTW, it's Prigoshins restaurant.. and he was invited, but didn't come (mabey he has better spies in the Kremlin..)
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Apr 3, 2023 00:43
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I saw that as well, best to take it with a huge grain of salt.
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Apr 3, 2023 00:44
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Girkin must be absolutely terrified
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Apr 3, 2023 00:58
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Mokotow posted:Girkin must be absolutely terrified the pubic wig?
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Apr 3, 2023 01:00
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Mokotow posted:Girkin must be absolutely terrified Surely, some wry Yiddish wit exists in the world to make a, "Gerkin shrinks.", joke. As an aside, is there a Yiddish thread on SA? I embrace swearing and ribald jokes in every language. madeintaipei fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Apr 3, 2023 |
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Apr 3, 2023 01:07
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There is one but you can't use the t-word in it.
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Apr 3, 2023 01:10
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shadow puppet of a posted:There is one but you can't use the t-word in it. tits?
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Apr 3, 2023 01:11
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tuchus
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Apr 3, 2023 01:13
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tunt
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Apr 3, 2023 01:14
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shadow puppet of a posted:tuchus ah. such vulgarity
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Apr 3, 2023 01:14
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fatherboxx posted:lmao Glen Greenwald Intelligence agencies don't risk messy operations like this on utter nobodies. A risk to the people involved, a risk to their methods and sources being revealed, and a risk of being accused of terrorism for the slight gain of a dead ex-criminal loudmouth of no real threat. That Greenwald seems to be implying that the Ukrainians went to that effort seems laughable, and worse, that he is implying that they are "terrorists" for having done so rather elides the reality of Russian disinterest of who they kill as long as they are Ukrainian. There's no journalism here and not a shred of objective thought. Greenwald isn't the journalist he might have been in the past, and certainly isn't the journalist he thinks he is. I'm sure there's a story there, but not the one Greenwald seems to imply.
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Apr 3, 2023 01:27
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Alan Smithee posted:tunt Cheryl
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Apr 3, 2023 01:29
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Babou!!!
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Apr 3, 2023 01:35
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Sedgr posted:Putin is a real piece of poo poo. More and more people are saying this
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Apr 3, 2023 01:37
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madeintaipei posted:Babou!!! Serpentine!
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Apr 3, 2023 01:39
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Karma Comedian posted:More and more people are saying this I can't for the life of me understand why
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Apr 3, 2023 01:40
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Sedgr posted:I wonder what the statuette was? Classical marble statue, Warhammer 40k, or life sized replica of Putin made out of turds? I think they believe it was white, porcelain, and possibly bowl-shaped from what I read.
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Apr 3, 2023 01:45
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the popes toes posted:Intelligence agencies don't risk messy operations like this on utter nobodies. A risk to the people involved, a risk to their methods and sources being revealed, and a risk of being accused of terrorism for the slight gain of a dead ex-criminal loudmouth of no real threat. That Greenwald seems to be implying that the Ukrainians went to that effort seems laughable, and worse, that he is implying that they are "terrorists" for having done so rather elides the reality of Russian disinterest of who they kill as long as they are Ukrainian. There's no journalism here and not a shred of objective thought. Greenwald isn't the journalist he might have been in the past, and certainly isn't the journalist he thinks he is. I'm sure there's a story there, but not the one Greenwald seems to imply. I wouldn't call him a "nobody", he's been fighting Ukraine since 2014 and his telegram channel had 500k+ subscribers. People without strong state protections who become symbols of Russian chauvinism like Tatarsky, Igor Mangushev, Aleksandr Dugin, seem to be getting targeted. It could be they're killed because they make the SMO look bad, or due to some other internal conflict, but I don't see why it can't be the GUR doing it
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Apr 3, 2023 01:45
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Flavahbeast posted:I wouldn't call him a "nobody", he's been fighting Ukraine since 2014 and his telegram channel had 500k+ subscribers. This is true. Anyone in Russia who pays attention to the war would be very likely to be familiar with Tatarsky. He was approaching Rybar levels of popularity in the mil-blogger sphere. My take was that this was a warning to Prigozhin. Tatarsky was killed in Prigozhin's cafe at an event Prigozhin was said to be invited to as well. This has the feel of an MoD action. This is where poo poo becomes very real to an average Russian city dweller. When one doesn’t know whether they could be killed or wounded simply by dining at a cafe in St. Petersburg. It implies a failure of the state security. Which can lead to further security restrictions, as the security apparatus responds. This is especially true if the state security apparatus is the one behind the attack in the first place. A statuette filled with 200g of TNT was handed to Tatarsky. Man killed on the spot. Tsar Putin got rid of a nationalist big mouth putting pressure on him to do things their way. Alexander Dugin was babbling about martyrs. He (and Girkin) should take the hint, shut up, and let Putin lose the war however he wants. HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Apr 3, 2023 |
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Apr 3, 2023 01:55
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Flavahbeast posted:I wouldn't call him a "nobody", he's been fighting Ukraine since 2014 and his telegram channel had 500k+ subscribers. Criminals, and he was an out-and-out criminal, can be useful during wartime. At a certain point they become a liability. Better, then, to take care of them before they are out of the state's control. Motorola, Arkan, Kadyrov, etc., these people take what they can get but seem to find the tip of the sword hanging over them... fall. Sometimes these systems of both crime, organized or otherwise, always touching the state, get pushed under the rug as quickly and as early as possible. Sometimes they make a name and consider themselves untouchable. I dunno if this falls under Clancy-chat, but there looks there's a through-line in the "Russian world" of supporting these horrible people to do horrible things and then discarding them when plausible deniability is lost. This is not unique to the Russian sphere of interest, but it seems to be a feature of the system of control from the Yugoslav Wars on (Clancy-chat, the Russians were involved and took what lessons they could from it). Trading money for influence, influence upon money, upon money, upon influence. Maybe we should have let that British officer punish the RF then and there in the former Yugoslav republics. We're past that now.
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Apr 3, 2023 02:08
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Sedgr posted:I wonder what the statuette was? Classical marble statue, Warhammer 40k, or life sized replica of Putin made out of turds? 
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Apr 3, 2023 02:13
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Is that the M3gan I keep hearing about?
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Apr 3, 2023 02:17
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A Boom House?!
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Apr 3, 2023 02:18
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Scuttlebutt says it was a statue of the target himself. I choose to believe it was a nesting doll. Him under helmet, him bald, Cheburashka, it's ears pop out, *ting* "Friends!" BOOM! gently caress, that's horrible of me to say. Innocent people may have died.
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Apr 3, 2023 02:19
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HonorableTB posted:This is true. Anyone in Russia who pays attention to the war would be very likely to be familiar with Tatarsky. He was approaching Rybar levels of popularity in the mil-blogger sphere. My take was that this was a warning to Prigozhin. Tatarsky was killed in Prigozhin's cafe at an event Prigozhin was said to be invited to as well. This has the feel of an MoD action. This was 100% a warning aimed at the ultranationalist faction. Even though, in the bigger scheme of things, Tatarsky's just a pawn, if a popular pawn, he's still well known enough among and outside the ultranationalist circles that what happened to him was a warning to lay off on the criticisms. I think what Strelkov did recently about forming his "angry patriots club" was one factor that set things off.
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Apr 3, 2023 02:52
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Alan Smithee posted:A Boom House?! 
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Apr 3, 2023 04:03
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if russian intelligence were involved they missed the perfect opportunity to put polonium in the coffee machine, killing everyone including their operatives who would be identified immediately by independent osint twitterers. even then it's not like they've done something crazy like bomb apartment buildings, marking the beginning of the putin regime or anything
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Apr 3, 2023 04:20
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Will Marin's election loss to the right in Finland make a difference in their NATO application?
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Apr 3, 2023 04:37
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HonorableTB posted:Will Marin's election loss to the right in Finland make a difference in their NATO application? No.
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Apr 3, 2023 04:37
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Honestly, the motivates for assassinating this person are so tangled that I'm not sure you can untangle who's behind it as easily as "FSB vs Wagner". NATO Intel agencies have been running hog wild in Russia this whole time. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that this assisination was a NATO Intel agency aiming at low hanging fruit just to show that they could. I mean, c'mon. Bomb hidden in a statuette is not the style of subtlety that the FSB has lately endorsed, with all the high profile drownings or trips out of the windows of multi-story buildings.
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Apr 3, 2023 04:38
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Icochet posted:Probably just a burst samovar Don't look at me, man. I was nowhere near the place.
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Apr 3, 2023 04:39
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HonorableTB posted:This is true. Anyone in Russia who pays attention to the war would be very likely to be familiar with Tatarsky. Looks like ISW writes about this in their daily report today.
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Apr 3, 2023 04:41
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Samovar posted:Don't look at me, man. I was nowhere near the place. Yeah we all know you have impressive reach and distance, no need to brag.
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Apr 3, 2023 04:42
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Samovar posted:Don't look at me, man. I was nowhere near the place. Excellent
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Apr 3, 2023 04:46
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Lol the woman that gave the milblogger the bomb straight up said "Security asked me if there was a bomb inside" right before it went off
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Apr 3, 2023 04:50
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HonorableTB posted:Lol the woman that gave the milblogger the bomb straight up said "Security asked me if there was a bomb inside" right before it went off ISW claimed that Fomin asked her as a joke if there was a bomb in it about five minutes before he found out there was a bomb in it.
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Apr 3, 2023 04:52
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Absolutely no way was this a nato member intelligence assassination. The clear possibilities, to me anyways, are the Russian state, some other Russian person or organization (most likely imo), or Ukrainian partisans inside Russia.
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