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Kith posted:have you considered avoiding the parts of the game that you do not like or enjoy?
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Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:wait where do you get the red bars for the class-exclusive swords? is that the rightmost of the two cheapest focus options at the War Table? Yes, it drops either Imperial Decree (kinetic shotgun) or your class’s sword. The red border rate is pretty bad so save up a lot of engrams first
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Shame caster frames are a) not better and b) not given more love. Also it's pretty lame that aggressive and lightweight frames are class-exclusive, but Warlock's class exclusive is totally unremarkable as a result of them giving everyone vortex.
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haveblue posted:Yes, it drops either Imperial Decree (kinetic shotgun) or your class’s sword. The red border rate is pretty bad so save up a lot of engrams first noted. I’m not loving with it until I’ve got a few more Defiance patterns finished anyway but appreciate the tip!
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Shockeh posted:I started to write the very obvious response, then realised you already know, so why fuckin' bother. go right ahead, i seriously do not understand why people insist on subjecting themselves to things that they do not enjoy for rewards that they will inevitably be angered and/or frustrated by e: like seriously i have never played a match of trials in my life and you know what? i'm loving happy. i correctly identified that poo poo was not something i was interested in subjecting myself to and having no contact with it rules. Oxyclean posted:Shame caster frames are a) not better and b) not given more love. it's remarkable because it's A) the only craftable vortex frame and B) the only sword that gets destabilizing rounds also caster frames seriously gently caress up Crucible, especially since Trials offered one that dealt more damage for no apparent reason, so they're a touchy subject Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:noted. I’m not loving with it until I’ve got a few more Defiance patterns finished anyway but appreciate the tip! if it makes you feel any better, it only costs 2 engrams as opposed to the defiance engrams' 4, so it's cheaper than it initially appears Kith fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Apr 3, 2023 |
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Kith posted:go right ahead, i seriously do not understand why people insist on subjecting themselves to things that they do not enjoy for rewards that they will inevitably be angered and/or frustrated by I absolutely loathe LL enabled PVP; I want to win because I played better, not because I just sank more time into it. And yes, it ends up being single percentile differences, but those differences make or break Crucible in all the times you win/lose fights over single HP differences. E: And we've both been around enough you know all this, I'm just saying it out loud for catharis, honestly.
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Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:noted. I’m not loving with it until I’ve got a few more Defiance patterns finished anyway but appreciate the tip! Spending engrams past that for defiant patterns probably isn't the best use of them, unless you just don't got time to run the battlegrounds. Kith posted:it's remarkable because it's A) the only craftable vortex frame and B) the only sword that gets destabilizing rounds I'm sure it's just a matter of time till they make an all-class craftable vortex.
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Shockeh posted:Because you're then disadvantaged when facing it elsewhere, same as always? Comp Crucible is already 3 stacks of Immortal Adepts everywhere. i would agree with you if it was not possible to obtain a weapon that could outperform it, which is not the case - huckleberry is straight up better than immortal, adept or no. on top of that, being a SMG, it has a fairly narrow band of dominating performance and can be outranged or countered by the appropriate weapon. i WILL grant you that destiny 2's map designs tend to favor the SMG engagement range, but that doesn't mean it's completely unbeatable. personally i've enjoyed finding many ways to break hearts and scramble brains and ruin lives because i know loving EVERYBODY is running immortal right now, so playing with that knowledge in mind has bumped up my atrocious K/D a few percentage points. Oxyclean posted:Fair! But clearly it's no Throne-Cleaver/Crown-Splitter by your metrics otherwise. to be counter-fair, that list is ranking swords based on how effective they are at chopping off riven's toes in ten seconds or less, which is an incredibly and brutally niche application. death's razor whips rear end in gambit Kith fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Apr 3, 2023 |
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Trials is fun if you've taken drugs, I have discovered that. I went up a few ranks thanks to that. Mode is fun when you're too high to notice when you die (or win) lol I still think Trials is a mode based on a fundamentally flawed idea, but what I think doesn't much matter. Also I don't really care that much, the best part of trials is rounds are 90 seconds tops, that rules. I'm enjoying the hell out of the revamped Strikes, Glassway NF is fun as hell. Keen to see how everything feels come Wednesday (for me, timezones) with the primary buffs. Game is good and fun, hot take. Edit: they should add capture the flag and give us Facing Worlds. My favourite PvP modes are Control (and therefore Irony Banana) and Rift because of the chaos. syntaxfunction fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Apr 3, 2023 |
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Apr 3, 2023 03:44
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Trials would be ok on blood gulch, but that's it
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syntaxfunction posted:Trials is fun if you've taken drugs another very good thread title candidate
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Apr 3, 2023 03:49
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Gimme some fun things to take and pay for me to order in and I'll make Bungo a tonne of new PvP maps that are awesome and may or may not be semi-copied from Unreal Tournament and Quake 3.
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syntaxfunction posted:Gimme some fun things to take and pay for me to order in and I'll make Bungo a tonne of new PvP maps that are awesome and may or may not be semi-copied from Unreal Tournament and Quake 3. Longest Yard (Q3DM17) but the launchers are the ones from RoN. e: On second thought, having to stop and shoot would probably be too awkward. Just assume whatever launchers they put in would be inconsistent. e2: Kind of hosed up if they don't make a pvp map based on encounter 2 of RoN that is also a callback to Ship-to-Ship boarding action. Oxyclean fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Apr 3, 2023 |
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Crucru map inside the traveler when??
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Kith posted:i would agree with you if it was not possible to obtain a weapon that could outperform it, which is not the case - huckleberry is straight up better than immortal, adept or no. Come on fam, being loud and wrong isn't the way. Huckleberry? in pvp???? huh
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PathAsc posted:Crucru map inside the traveler when?? At this rate? 2028
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RBX posted:Come on fam, being loud and wrong isn't the way. Huckleberry? in pvp???? huh I use Huckleberry in PvP! I also have a terrible record in PvP but that probably isn't the gun's fault lol I have been using progressively more inane weapons in Trials for fun. I am probably pissing off a lot of teammates, but I need to know if Something New and the Seraph sidearm are a secret killer combo! I also sometimes forget what exotic I'm wearing and swap subclasses mid match for funsies.
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bold and controversial take: I think I like Guardian Ranks? Grinding up to 7 and 8 has been satisfying and encouraged me to do content I don't normally do like the weekly missions or nightfalls, it's been interesting. Rank 9's probably gonna be a pain just cause I need to hit pinnacle cap but it has illuminated that I have never completed prophecy or shattered throne (despite having wish-ender...) so I'll definitely get those done at least.
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Guardian ranks are fine for what they are, which is supposed to be a guide for what to do to advance in your ability and skill at the game. Unfortunately it's in a weird spot where there's a few issues: - People want to be rewarded for the effort put into ranks, more than just number go up - However, people really want number go up, hence the issues with commendations, because the numbers were a lot higher than what a lot of people felt were reasonable. - They put things like extra loadouts as unlocks in the rank system, which makes it more confusing whether it's a guide or a set of goals. It's a perfectly fine system, but kind of stuck in between whether it's something you should be consciously focusing on achieving, or simply a guide for where to go next in the game. I don't really know what the right move or change is that will make people happy. Add more rewards but risk issues with people not achieving them (the FOMO position) or remove all rewards and have it be seen as largely irrelevant by everyone apparently? TL;DR I like them too!
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Guardian Ranks are just Diablo 3’s Seasonal Journey but they made the mistake of making them bad with no rewards instead of good/fun with great rewards.
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RBX posted:Huckleberry? in pvp???? huh huckleberry loving rules and if you think otherwise you're wrong
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arsenicCatnip posted:you wouldn't actually want swords for doing Riven legit, at least not your whole team. You need someone in position to shoot eyes.  
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Just replayed the witch queen campaign and it reminded me how great the story development was presented then.
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I played this game at launch and enjoyed it well enough in terms of playing through the campaign, and now I'm starting to hear from podcasts that the game is actually pretty good now at being something where you can play through a new mission every week? That sort of small, drip feed content sounds perfect for me, something novel I look forward to every weekend with a pretty clear "you've seen the new stuff, come back next time" limit. Is that how the game works now? Do they add one new story strike ever week or something, at least when the DLC is new? If so, I'd like to get back into the game. I downloaded the Steam client and the gunplay, of course, is still great. But I had a couple questions: First, I don't have access to that old character anymore, because I foolishly let the Blizzard account transfer window pass - so should I buy lightfall, or the bundle of previous DLC. Does the old DLC suffer from being incongruous with the current state of the game that I'll see at the tower or anything like that? Will I still have plenty of people for strikes? Second, in my original character I'd run Zavala strikes until I had the same red and white armor and assault rifle that my titan had started the tutorial with. I'd liked that, a little arc where I'd gotten back the old gear that was kind of a badge of office. I saw another NPC guardian in the same gear during the Lightfall cinema, so I'm guessing it's still a visual shorthand for "yup, that's a guardian". Anyway, I'd like to get that gear again, is it still available?
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Jack B Nimble posted:I played this game at launch and enjoyed it well enough in terms of playing through the campaign, and now I'm starting to hear from podcasts that the game is actually pretty good now at being something where you can play through a new mission every week? That sort of small, drip feed content sounds perfect for me, something novel I look forward to every weekend with a pretty clear "you've seen the new stuff, come back next time" limit. Is that how the game works now? Do they add one new story strike ever week or something, at least when the DLC is new? If so, I'd like to get back into the game. I downloaded the Steam client and the gunplay, of course, is still great. But I had a couple questions: First point: Lightfall gets you the current offerings and you can also snag the new Seasonal offerings to keep up to date on the smaller story movements. Older DLC has storylines that play into the current story but aren't necessarily super important to know about. When you purchase older content, you're mostly paying for access to the story, the weapons, the armor, and the activities that those particular pieces of DLC had. Each big content drop came with revamps to parts of the entire game. Lightfall adds Strand, a new subclass. Witch Queen added craftable weapons with foundry perks (a trend continued in Lightfall) and a revamp of all light subclasses. Beyond Light added Stasis, a new subclass. Shadowkeep added Armor 2.0 (which, all the armor is armor 2.0 now). Forsaken readded special weapons to the game and added the new light class supers (which are so standard that they're not offered for free to everyone). The quality of these DLCs vary a bit, but I think Witch Queen and Lightfall have solid campaigns gameplay-wise, with Witch Queen having some stellar storytelling. I'd pick up the most recent DLC (Lightfall) and Witch Queen and just sorta pick up the others over time depending on what you'd want, equipment and ability wise. Second point: The "parade armor" that you see in the character creation menu is a world drop at the moment, and you can snag those items and then, using bounties from Ada-1, add them to your transmog pool. You can make all your armor look like that if you like.
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Ok, the only old gear I have any desire for at all is that red and white armor, so if that's a world drop I'll probably just grab Lightfall so that I'm part of the current, ongoing progression, and then if/when I want more content later I'll look to get some of the older DLC.
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Black Talon with catalyst will surprise you with how much damage it does. If you spend all your heavy this way you can probably get the most bang for your buck of any heavy weapon. The issue is that it requires a lot of mental space to always be parrying and then shooting. You'll probably get killed by something else just concentrating so hard. I tried to make it work at one point. It's a really cool build, visually. And with mods you can keep it going in a NF pretty much the whole run. But yeah, miss a block and you're effed.
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Kith posted:huckleberry loving rules and if you think otherwise you're wrong It's very good right now, particularly when paired with for example a disruption break grenade launcher to help get that first kill.
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So just to follow up on the "red and white titan armor" thing, that's not "Noble Constant Type 2 Armor Set"? Or is that outdated information? "Parade Armor" seems to be more of a...cosmetic?
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Jack B Nimble posted:So just to follow up on the "red and white titan armor" thing, that's not "Noble Constant Type 2 Armor Set"? Or is that outdated information? "Parade Armor" seems to be more of a...cosmetic?
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Great, I just grabbed the gauntlets in the EDZ, thanks!
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Honestly, I forgot about caster swords. I wish we could get new ones with different form factors.
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I could've sworn Temptation's Hook was Void, but no, apparently it's Arc.
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Kith posted:I could've sworn Temptation's Hook was Void, but no, apparently it's Arc. I had to look this up too and I was using it just last night (because I had also forgotten that caster swords exist)
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syntaxfunction posted:Trials is fun if you've taken drugs Congrats on the thread title
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RocketRaygun posted:Congrats on the thread title
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