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NeatHeteroDude posted:yeah it's such a massive public health boon to give people a place where they have alcohol swabs and unused syringes "Safe injection sites? Near MY downtown condo development???"
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As if that's gonna stop them from shooting up.
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Apr 3, 2023 18:42
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NeatHeteroDude posted:yeah it's such a massive public health boon to give people a place where they have alcohol swabs and unused syringes why do you want to encourage people to become heroin users and addicts?
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Apr 3, 2023 18:45
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How many times have I thought about becoming addicted to heroin, but stopped because there was no clean syringe?
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Apr 3, 2023 19:04
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this is from "A Soldier Of The Great War" by Mark Helprin, not sure why op left that out.
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I'm not sure I'd agree that everybody's loving all the time, although perhaps he meant the cars in his closet and kitchen because that would explain their prevalence.
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Any time I meet someone who's against safe injection sites, I ask them if they've ever ordered and enjoyed a drink in a bar. Usually I have to explain it to them, because the type of person to be against safe injection sites isn't usually very bright.
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Mister Speaker posted:Any time I meet someone who's against safe injection sites, I ask them if they've ever ordered and enjoyed a drink in a bar. Usually I have to explain it to them, because the type of person to be against safe injection sites isn't usually very bright. People get extremely angry if you equate drinking to any other drugs. My dad, an alcoholic, literally thought smoking was worse lmao.
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Mister Speaker posted:Any time I meet someone who's against safe injection sites, I ask them if they've ever ordered and enjoyed a drink in a bar. Usually I have to explain it to them, because the type of person to be against safe injection sites isn't usually very bright. Bars are social environments and I say this as a person who absolutely supports safe injection sites but you're a loving moron.
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Apr 3, 2023 22:03
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Apr 3, 2023 22:14
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lmao even an Italian's gonna blame the Milanese for being too car brained
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Terminal autist posted:Bars are social environments and I say this as a person who absolutely supports safe injection sites but you're a loving moron. Uhh I guess I should specify pubs that are within a 15 minute walk. CopperHound has issued a correction as of 22:26 on Apr 3, 2023 |
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CopperHound posted:Are you trying to argue that you don't think pubs are harm reduction? I guess I didn't know what to expect from the same doofus who pops ITT occasionally and thinks 'gonna buy a charger' is a good attempt at trolling.
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Groda posted:lmao even an Italian's gonna blame the Milanese for being too car brained It's written by an American though so it's probably meant to make the guy look stupid quote:Mark Helprin (born June 28, 1947) is an American novelist, journalist, conservative commentator, Senior Fellow of the Claremont Institute for the Study of Statesmanship and Political Philosophy, Fellow of the American Academy in Rome, and Member of the Council on Foreign Relations. While Helprin's fictional works straddle a number of disparate genres and styles, he has stated that he "belongs to no literary school, movement, tendency, or trend".[
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CopperHound posted:Are you trying to argue that you don't think pubs are harm reduction? Idk what current progressive thoughts are on safe injection sites but I don't think they should be a social business that is generating money. They should be non profits or ideally government ran with medical professionals on site to offer counseling and help for addicts, not some dude selling fent that will let you shoot up in his house. Mister Speaker posted:I guess I didn't know what to expect from the same doofus who pops ITT occasionally and thinks 'gonna buy a charger' is a good attempt at trolling. Update on the charger, gonna hold off til my current car is paid off and I'm selling my house. Gonna try to finance a new M5
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Terminal autist posted:Bars are social environments and I say this as a person who absolutely supports safe injection sites but you're a loving moron. What if you put pool tables and dart boards in the safe injection site
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Fitzy Fitz posted:What if you put pool tables and dart boards in the safe injection site Thats just the cool plugs traphouse, its not an ideal situation imo
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Apr 3, 2023 22:35
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the % of people in a bar with somewhere else to go or something else to do if they needed to with low chance of contracting a blood born infection or suddenly not breathing is quite a bit higher than the % of people in a safe injection site that cant say the same if the site was closed
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silicone thrills posted:People get extremely angry if you equate drinking to any other drugs. Smoking what, tobacco? Because it probably is. A lot less anti-social behavior but a lot more death overall. It's a toughy. If it's weed then he's just a dumbass
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Milo and POTUS posted:Smoking what, tobacco? Because it probably is. A lot less anti-social behavior but a lot more death overall. It's a toughy. If it's weed then he's just a dumbass He's dead, partially from the alcoholism. So I cant ask to clarify.
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silicone thrills posted:He's dead, partially from the alcoholism. So I cant ask to clarify. Did the safe imbibing site help?
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Did the safe imbibing site help? He did all his safely imbibing at home with his buddies! too poor to drink at a bar you see
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So that's where cars come from. I knew all that stuff about "the factory" was bullshit
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I think place with folks iving meth or heroin is a different situation that requires a radically different setting for safety and security. Like alcohol swabs, bacteriostatic water, insulin syringes, and little cups to dissolve the drugs would all be insanely cheap to provide, but a bigger concern might be concentrating too many people injecting in the same area at the same time. Someone might pass out but someone who hasn't slept in 3 days and is seeing shadow people might also inject a gran of methamphetamine by accident (or on purpose!) and totally lose their poo poo. Naloxone is a somewhat effective intervention for heroin overdose but no one there is going to be safe or able to give someone a shot of antipsychotics to make them sleep for the first time in 3 days and multiple redoses of meth
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I hate f*cking cars!!!
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Do not hate gently caress cars.
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NeatHeteroDude posted:I think place with folks iving meth or heroin is a different situation that requires a radically different setting for safety and security. Like alcohol swabs, bacteriostatic water, insulin syringes, and little cups to dissolve the drugs would all be insanely cheap to provide, but a bigger concern might be concentrating too many people injecting in the same area at the same time. Someone might pass out but someone who hasn't slept in 3 days and is seeing shadow people might also inject a gran of methamphetamine by accident (or on purpose!) and totally lose their poo poo. In the ideal world these would be medical sites but in reality if they exist they're probably underfunded and dangerous places. The thought hadn't even crossed my mind you might have meth users mixing with the opioid users. Really hosed vibes
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thank you ♥
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Terminal autist posted:In the ideal world these would be medical sites but in reality if they exist they're probably underfunded and dangerous places. The thought hadn't even crossed my mind you might have meth users mixing with the opioid users. Really hosed vibes Yeah. meth is one of those drugs that you really genuinely can't take safely, especially if you've got people injecting it. the lack of sleep, possible hyperthermia, etc., all contribute to a population that may be abnormally dangerous while getting high in comparison to users of different substances. you're probably torn between increasing the restrictive nature of the environment (more monitoring, technicians certified in restraint/injection training, lots of building security measures, etc.) and putting staff and other users in dangerous or unacceptable situations
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people can take meth safely. it's occasionally prescribed by doctors
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Cuttlefush posted:people can take meth safely. it's occasionally prescribed by doctors you know who else was prescribed meth? that's right
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gradenko_2000 posted:you know who else was prescribed meth? that's right the wu tang clan?
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If c-spam was the sort of forum where people had earnest discussions I'd suggest a thread discussing drug criminalization.
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