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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Kith posted:


Forerunner and Xenophage, arguably.

"I want a heavy exotic sidearm."

"Yeah, bro, Xenophage is the same as that."

lmao

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haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Make Wastelander even more authentic by letting you dual wield them :getin:

Chomposaur
Feb 28, 2010




I'm thinking of rerolling my titan to change appearances for better space dressup purposes and tag along with a buddy who's going to go through new light. I know I'll need to redo any campaign stuff, Beyond Light for stasis, etc. Going to put gear in the vault so I can yoink it back out again afterward. Anything else that I should make sure to do? Will I need to rebuy all the Light 3.0 stuff from Ikora or does that carry over?

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


FlapYoJacks posted:

"I want a heavy exotic sidearm."

"Yeah, bro, Xenophage is the same as that."

lmao

used the same way, don't see the issue

plus xenophage is canonically just framework for omar to shoot a tiny gun

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Chomposaur posted:

I'm thinking of rerolling my titan to change appearances for better space dressup purposes and tag along with a buddy who's going to go through new light. I know I'll need to redo any campaign stuff, Beyond Light for stasis, etc. Going to put gear in the vault so I can yoink it back out again afterward. Anything else that I should make sure to do? Will I need to rebuy all the Light 3.0 stuff from Ikora or does that carry over?

If you delete a character everything uniquely associated with that character is permanently lost, so yes, you will have to rebuy Light 3.0 stuff

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
Xenophage is a sidearm the way a poptart is a ravioli

The whole game is grey areas. Especially now that most weapons are full auto, the spectrum of 'Sidearm to Heavy Machine Gun' is pretty debatable

Like what REALLY makes a 600 SMG and a 720 Auto rifle what they are. Drang is a hand cannon.

The real answer is that the Gun Model & the type of mods it uses are what make a gun a gun. Xenophage isn't a sidearm because it uses Machine Gun mods and it's a very big gun you hold differently from a tiny pistol

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Xenophage isn't a sidearm because it uses Machine Gun mods and it's a very big gun you hold differently from a tiny pistol

what machine gun mods???

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Like what REALLY makes a 600 SMG and a 720 Auto rifle what they are. Drang is a hand cannon.

The real answer is that the Gun Model & the type of mods it uses are what make a gun a gun. Xenophage isn't a sidearm because it uses Machine Gun mods and it's a very big gun you hold differently from a tiny pistol

SMG probably has better AE and works with Peacekeepers, AR probably has a bit more range and works with Actium. Drang works with Mechaneer's but not Lucky Pants.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

Kith posted:

what machine gun mods???

Paracelsus is picking up what I'm putting down. Machine guns interact with things like Actium War Rig or Surge: Machine Gun. Xenophage does not benefit from this season's Anti-Barrier Sidearm.

A lot of archetypes have conceptual or even literal rate of fire overlap, but at the end of the day a machine gun is not a sidearm because it's a machine gun.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Paracelsus is picking up what I'm putting down. Machine guns interact with things like Actium War Rig or Surge: Machine Gun. Xenophage does not benefit from this season's Anti-Barrier Sidearm.

A lot of archetypes have conceptual or even literal rate of fire overlap, but at the end of the day a machine gun is not a sidearm because it's a machine gun.

sure, but i'm also primarily shitposting

Kith posted:

plus xenophage is canonically just framework for omar to shoot a tiny gun

Roctavian
Feb 23, 2011

Necrobama posted:

make it do the death star laser thing where a couple of smaller lasers converge into a SUPER LASER

Kith posted:

counterpoint: ghostbusters laser. make it all wiggly and lock on to its primary target

Seriously but what about a crazy heavy trace rifle that combines beams when multiple guardians fire it at a converging point, almost impossible to aim, but deals every damage type based on every guardian's equipped subclass

Bleck
Jan 7, 2014

No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.

Kith posted:

counterpoint: ghostbusters laser. make it all wiggly and lock on to its primary target

Then they should give it a Rat King-style perk where more players using it makes it do more damage, but only if you cross the streams.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

Kith posted:

sure, but i'm also primarily shitposting

Shitposting is all we've got!!

Related - the best exotics are all 'gun that uses Non-Gun thing as a platform for violence'

Like xenophage just being an Omar hate-blaster, or Cloudstrike being a wizard staff on a rifle frame

arsenicCatnip
Dec 23, 2022

:33< i KNOW, i was speaking metafurrikitty :33



Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:

there’s a lady who plays this game about whom Bungie just did a community focus and she loves to run triple bows—one in kinetic, one in energy, and Leviathan’s Breath. (she’s a Hunter main [ew] so she could plausibly run Void and have quadruple bows.)

she goes by SamiKatPlays and she has cleared every dungeon solo flawless with all bows, no artifact mods, and no HUD. and she is my hero.

I used to run triple shotgun in gambit a bunch, back before they nerfed scavengers. I should try it out again with the ammo changes, could rule

Pretzel Rod Serling
Aug 6, 2008



triple shotgun seems fun, yeah. I love when weird weapon types are available in the heavy slot—you even have options, like Legend of Acrius or Tractor Cannon!

also given we’re talking about how close various weapon archetypes are to one another, here’s a fun non-secret: bows are programmed as fusion rifles! draw time is directly analogous to charge time

sure okay
Apr 7, 2006





A heavy ammo handcannon 6 shooter that you reload 1 bullet at a time.

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug
god dammit I wish this game would knock you out of the inventory screen or whatever if it were playing a cutscene I missed half of one today because I had my volume low and was doing things

also it was a fairly loving important one I gather

e: well ok as important as one can actually be in Destiny 2 granted

fast cars loose anus fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Apr 4, 2023

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
Lmao I'm glad it's not just me. After missing half of two cut scenes I learned that I'm not loving with that loot after a mission.

Necrobama
Aug 4, 2006

by the sex ghost
d2 cutscenes are weird.

for some reason, i got the amanda shoots crow dead cutscene again, after amanda died

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011
e: ^ They ran out of budget for this season and this is a clip show to help Crow recover from some taken poison or some poo poo.



Bleck posted:

Then they should give it a Rat King-style perk where more players using it makes it do more damage, but only if you cross the streams.

Twice today we've landed in the neighborhood of a UT gun that I'm going to reach over and yank the wheel to crash us straight in to!


Gonna head the third one off and preemptively say gently caress you Bungie give us a shock combo exotic!

Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business
I would delete my Titan for a UT style flak gun...

Pretzel Rod Serling
Aug 6, 2008



if you have subtitles on you’ll always know when a cutscene starts! it’s useful at least for that (though I just like having subs on in general)

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.
Where is my Cable Hyper Viper Beam Bungie?

Necrobama
Aug 4, 2006

by the sex ghost
a plain old Legendary shotgun that pairs with Lament the way MIDA Multi and Mini tool pair with each other and give me an exotic mission to upgrade Lament called Rip and Tear

Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business

Necrobama posted:

a plain old Legendary shotgun that pairs with Lament the way MIDA Multi and Mini tool pair with each other and give me an exotic mission to upgrade Lament called Rip and Tear

:hmmyes:

I like it.

dodgeblan
Jul 20, 2019
I'm playing my first iron banner since like forsaken when I was rocking a go figure and telesto? It's been a long time

What's a meta load out for a titan with dad level gunskill plz help me

THE BIG DOG DADDY
Oct 16, 2013

Rasheed was, with Aliases, the top 7 PvPers in Bone Krew.


No one talks about this.
Lmao that the storyline of the first season of the new expansion wrapped up in 5 weeks and there's still 7 more weeks to go before the drip feed starts again

buried my bumpkin bae and feeling real defiant rn

As the Bungie devs put it in the vidoc - I feel like the tip of the spear, truly alive

Raspberry Bang
Feb 14, 2007


dodgeblan posted:

I'm playing my first iron banner since like forsaken when I was rocking a go figure and telesto? It's been a long time

What's a meta load out for a titan with dad level gunskill plz help me

How much do you like trials…

arsenicCatnip
Dec 23, 2022

:33< i KNOW, i was speaking metafurrikitty :33



dodgeblan posted:

I'm playing my first iron banner since like forsaken when I was rocking a go figure and telesto? It's been a long time

What's a meta load out for a titan with dad level gunskill plz help me

Telesto actually cooks in PVP unless they changed something when I wasn't looking. If you hit all 3 bolts on someone it's a 1-tap from any range. Learn how to control the recoil and you have a fusion rifle with no damage fall-off.

Lexorin
Jul 5, 2000

You should always pull out 2 sidearms and dual wield them. No changes to stats. Just update the animations to make it look cooler. Otherwise sidearms usually look tiny and goofy. So why not use two tiny, goofy guns?

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
Nightfall Lake of Shadows is an unbelieveable slog now. So glad we Brought Challenge Back to Destiny!

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya

THE BIG DOG DADDY posted:

Lmao that the storyline of the first season of the new expansion wrapped up in 5 weeks and there's still 7 more weeks to go before the drip feed starts again

The seasons that are released alongside the annual expansion are typically shorter, under the presumption that you've got more stuff on your plate to finish up. There's probably going to be a finale towards the end of the season as well.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
Tepid Tape - The seasonal storyline always sucks, whether it's 3 or 7 weeks long

To me the things that make a season good or bad are

- The state of pvp
- Is there a new raid
- The artifact mods

arsenicCatnip
Dec 23, 2022

:33< i KNOW, i was speaking metafurrikitty :33



Pirate Jet posted:

Nightfall Lake of Shadows is an unbelieveable slog now. So glad we Brought Challenge Back to Destiny!

I don't even wanna look at it, I don't wanna see how they massacred my boy.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

arsenicCatnip posted:

I don't even wanna look at it, I don't wanna see how they massacred my boy.

Do the wellspring mode where you escort a payload twice, then do the second half of the strike except the enemies are now cabal and the boss has 5x the health it used to

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010

arsenicCatnip posted:

I don't even wanna look at it, I don't wanna see how they massacred my boy.

Do you remember how the reason why the boss was so weak was because you had to fight him in an arena with practically zero cover?

Imagine if Bungie completely ignored that and just said "hm, this boss is awful weak. Let's fix that"

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

haveblue posted:

Do the wellspring mode where you escort a payload twice, then do the second half of the strike except the enemies are now cabal and the boss has 5x the health it used to

And also if you aren’t invisible or moving very fast at the start of the boss fight, you get instantly murdered, because the entire top of the elevator is ringed with scorpius turrets.

Every time the updated Arms Dealer appears in Vanguard Playlist i know i’m gonna be rezzing both blueberries

Necrobama
Aug 4, 2006

by the sex ghost

ullerrm posted:

And also if you aren’t invisible or moving very fast at the start of the boss fight, you get instantly murdered, because the entire top of the elevator is ringed with scorpius turrets.

Every time the updated Arms Dealer appears in Vanguard Playlist i know i’m gonna be rezzing both blueberries

there are way too many god damned scorpius turrets in the game right now

it's like they took a cue from dark souls 2 with the red phantoms and went "you know what fixes the difficulty curve? more bullshit enemies!"

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
The new Arms Dealer is set up specifically to kill people who run the playbook from the old strike, especially a boss burn

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arsenicCatnip
Dec 23, 2022

:33< i KNOW, i was speaking metafurrikitty :33



haveblue posted:

The new Arms Dealer is set up specifically to kill people who run the playbook from the old strike, especially a boss burn

I can confirm, first time I ran it I positioned myself to get the extra damage in, realized they had moved bracus so you couldn't do that any more and got milled by turrets.

Also I think the idea that it's a new guy who just took the name Bracus Zahn is silly when it could've just been a shadow legion clone of the original, who was pals with Calus.

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