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Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

wa27 posted:

Man where did you get a black and white tv that doesn't have VHF?? An Atari or any other game console will only broadcast on channel 3 or 4 (or maybe 1 or 2 in japan?). There's a lot of weird things about that tv, actually. Is there a country that just didn't use VHF?

Your coax to 1/8" converter won't work either, so you might want to cancel that order. I guess what you'd need to do is demodulate the atari, or get a console that outputs composite video, then find an RF modulator that lets you broadcast on UHF frequencies. I'm not familiar with any products that can convert an RF signal from one frequency to a different one in one step.

Britain, maybe? From wikipedia:

quote:

Initial uptake of UHF television was very slow: Differing propagation characteristics between VHF and UHF meant new additional transmitters needed to be built, often at different locations to the then-established VHF sites, and in general with a larger number of relay stations to fill the greater number of gaps in coverage that came with the new band. This led to poor picture quality in bad coverage areas, and many years before the service achieved full national coverage. In addition to this, the only exclusively UHF service, BBC2, would run for only a few hours a day and run alternative programming for minority audiences in contrast to the more populist schedules of BBC1 and ITV. However the 1970s saw a large increase in UHF TV viewing while VHF took a significant decline: The appeal of colour, which was never introduced to VHF (despite preliminary plans to do so in the late 1950s and early 1960s) and the fall in television prices saw most households use a UHF set by the end of that decade. With the second and last VHF television service having launched in 1955, VHF TV was finally decommissioned for good in 1985 with no plans for it to return to use.

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longview
Dec 25, 2006

heh.
Got the chance to pick some parts from an old Dell server, dating to ca. 2004 I'd guess

Contained not one but two SCSI controllers, both had Ultra 320 cable harnesses – one was hooked up to two hard drives.

The Adaptec has a standard 50 pin IDC header on it so technically that should be SCSI-1 capable?

The other was wired to this beauty:


Even managed to eject the tape it came with, though it does seem to desire cleaning.

Unfortunately that tape will need to be returned to the original owner, but should be possible to get some more.
DAT72 is as you would expect a 36 GB tape, that apparently runs at a blazing 3 MB/s, fortunately the Ultra320 SCSI interface should be fast enough to handle it.

Also grabbed the original Pentium 4 and 1.5 GB total of DDR2 ECC unbuffered memory across 4 sticks.

The SCSI controllers are both PCI-X, so in principle I could perhaps put them in the G4 AGP, that's the only PCI-X system I have available. Guessing these things don't have PowerPC boot-ROMs on them but might be usable when booted into OS X?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Wow, I've never seen a UHF only TV. I guess they did that for cost savings since it's a manual knob and not a selector. I had a tv where the VHF knob had the VHF channels and then you turned it to to UHF and then used the UHF knob.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Oh cool - old PC server hardware is its own pool of weirdness.

In related news, we're finally getting rid of a lot of old desktop PCs at work, and I quietly set aside the oldest one, a later Pentium4 with DDR2 and both PCI and PCIe; I found a SoundBlaster Live! and some yet-to-be-identified Ati card in the pile, grabbed a DVD writer drive, and I think I can dig up a floppy drive to complete the look. I wonder if I still have an ISO of XP with the bulk license we used at work built in?

freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see



Computer viking posted:

Britain, maybe? From wikipedia:

Yep. It's a Boots MTV 5.
These days Boots are more pharmaceuticals and beauty products but they used to do more.



With 6x D cell batteries I can have a portable snowstorm!

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




If you want to convert the VHF signal of an Atari to UHF, you can probably get away with a non-linear amplifier stage, hooked up as a signal distorter.

This will generate a bunch of harmonics that contain the original TV signal. You can tune into one of those. Hell, if you hook up a fast schottky diode right across the antenna output of the Atari, perhaps that will already generate enough distortion products for one to be picked up on UHF.

Alternatively, see if you can find one of those 100MHz TTL oscillator cans, make a 'proper' 1 transistor mixer stage like in the tuners of UHF tvs or in those UHF to VHF converters (with a BFW92 or something) and feed it both the TTL oscillator signal (perhaps emitter coupled) and the Atari signal on the base. This will probably work as a mixer and put out the atari signal at 145, 245, 345, 445MHz etc (depending on the Atari's output frequency) and how non-linear the mixer is.

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Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

Cojawfee posted:

I had a tv where the VHF knob had the VHF channels and then you turned it to to UHF and then used the UHF knob.

We had one of those too, my parents bought it in the 80s and were still using it well into the 2000s. It used to have a tendency to blow caps with a nice loud bang from time to time.

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019
It's not a real tuning knob unless the knob has been replaced with a plastic pen cap with some match sticks shoved into it for a tight fit.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
https://i.imgur.com/p3CfgY4.mp4

mlnhd
Jun 4, 2002


Soledad O’Brien on “The Site”, :neckbeard: which was the only program I cared about on MSNBC when it launched.

They pre-empted an episode once when Princess Diana was killed, and then it never came on again.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




What is the best way to literally wash a PC? I came across a sweet Gateway 2000 386DX/33 today that came out of a metal shop. It must have lived most of its life near some sort of wood saw, because its coated in sawdust. Also, being a metal shop, everything is covered in a thin layer of oil, so that means I cant just blow off the sawdust. I need to wash this machine, or ideally at least the motherboard, cables, chassis and faceplate.

Also, I cant in good conscience turn this thing on while its full of flammable, bearing breaking oil-impregnated sawdust.

I used to love old full-size towers like this when I was a youngin and they always seemed so out of reach to me. I'd like to bring this one back if I can, since I also have a lot of nostalgia for this design of Gateway 2000, as its when I really started paying attention to computers.





Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

Beve Stuscemi posted:

What is the best way to literally wash a PC? I came across a sweet Gateway 2000 386DX/33 today that came out of a metal shop. It must have lived most of its life near some sort of wood saw, because its coated in sawdust. Also, being a metal shop, everything is covered in a thin layer of oil, so that means I cant just blow off the sawdust. I need to wash this machine, or ideally at least the motherboard, cables, chassis and faceplate.

Also, I cant in good conscience turn this thing on while its full of flammable, bearing breaking oil-impregnated sawdust.

I used to love old full-size towers like this when I was a youngin and they always seemed so out of reach to me. I'd like to bring this one back if I can, since I also have a lot of nostalgia for this design of Gateway 2000, as its when I really started paying attention to computers.







I don't see any reason you can't just use straight up dish soap and water with a soft brush, provided you give it a day or two to dry thoroughly before applying power. I've done that with dirty/corroded motherboards and a case isn't going to be more fragile. Anyone else feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though.

Kazy
Oct 23, 2006

0x38: FLOPPY_INTERNAL_ERROR

I think the washing videos I've seen also do a step of immersing it in IPA to make sure any remaining water gets flushed out

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

Kazy posted:

I think the washing videos I've seen also do a step of immersing it in IPA to make sure any remaining water gets flushed out

Both remaining water, and mineral deposits. Unless you use distilled/demineralized water, there's going to be some amount of solids in the water that get left behind once the water evaporates. And they can still create conductive pathways that can short out stuff.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
If it were mine, I'd plan on wholesale replacing the power supply. After that, I'd take the drives out, both HDD and removable media. Then, a first pass with a hose probably won't make the situation worse. Scrub scrub scrub. And yea, last step is probably a bath in isopropyl alcohol (not India Pale Ale, like I first thought when I saw "IPA").

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".
I’ve done it with arcade pcbs as well…

wash and scrub with soap and warm water in the sink
Rinse it thoroughly
Hang it up somewhere it can sit a couple of days
Spray the gently caress out of it with 99% alcohol top to bottom
Finally, Let it sit for the aforementioned couple of days

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

Things with interior crevices, like switches, are extra tough to dry out. Remove anything like that first if you can.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
PREPARE

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

My body is ready.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013




Those are some impressive posting gloves.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Parents are finally cleaning their house so I got to take home my Performa CD + Monitor, old-rear end SOCRATES interactive video system, a box full of old tapes, and my wonderful little 16" TV.

Now to find a place for all that poo poo.

CaptainSarcastic posted:

Those are some impressive posting gloves.
It's IMPORTANT to note how far we've come in a relatively short time. Those look like maybe Lucchesi ContraPosta IIIs, real expensive poo poo and durable but loving hot and inflexible as all gently caress. You wore those to make a statement, not to show off your absolute WPM/APM supremacy.

snorch
Jul 27, 2009
Down the absurd obsolete retro video gear rabbit hole I go.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G0koSkR7K0Y

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



FilthyImp posted:

It's IMPORTANT to note how far we've come in a relatively short time. Those look like maybe Lucchesi ContraPosta IIIs, real expensive poo poo and durable but loving hot and inflexible as all gently caress. You wore those to make a statement, not to show off your absolute WPM/APM supremacy.

True. If they really took their posting seriously it would be a pair of Declans or something comparable.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

namlosh posted:

I’ve done it with arcade pcbs as well…

wash and scrub with soap and warm water in the sink
Rinse it thoroughly
Hang it up somewhere it can sit a couple of days
Spray the gently caress out of it with 99% alcohol top to bottom
Finally, Let it sit for the aforementioned couple of days

Arcade-used pcbs are the worst. Makes sure you have good ventilation.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Bidding up a 1084S on huuto.net just because I'm really curious about how high this one bidder has set their robot (200€ so far).

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



3D Megadoodoo posted:

Bidding up a 1084S on huuto.net just because I'm really curious about how high this one bidder has set their robot (200€ so far).

So what's the plan when you discover exactly how high they set their robot?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Pham Nuwen posted:

So what's the plan when you discover exactly how high they set their robot?

:shrug: I can always use another 1084.

e: Welp, it was set at 210€. But I'm about ˝ sure they're gonna up the bid in the two days left.

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EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬




How I feel when I load up typeracer, ready to smoke some clowns.

Mr-Spain
Aug 27, 2003

Bullshit... you can be mine.
Speaking of cleaning PCBs, I just figured out I had a Ultrasonic submersion cleaner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5sYhHLqSoU

:haw:

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

I just learned Titan is still making neat stuff for the sega megadrive/genesis, like a 4 channel mod player for the machine that was famously only really able to play fm music since the fm and pcm audio hardware was connected to the z80 coprocessor that only had 8k ram to work with. Check it out if you have a flash cartridge!

https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=92359

https://i.imgur.com/CPNBwem.mp4

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe

Mr-Spain posted:

Speaking of cleaning PCBs, I just figured out I had a Ultrasonic submersion cleaner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5sYhHLqSoU

:haw:

That laugh got me :lol:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Wow this channel is a litteral blast from the past and wondering if we knew each other in various comminuties, heck I'm 100% some info he got from reading my .txts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIc6oQm3Mzc

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Humphreys posted:

Wow this channel is a litteral blast from the past and wondering if we knew each other in various comminuties, heck I'm 100% some info he got from reading my .txts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIc6oQm3Mzc

Have another:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C3xIY3rSZs

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Humphreys posted:

Wow this channel is a litteral blast from the past and wondering if we knew each other in various comminuties, heck I'm 100% some info he got from reading my .txts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIc6oQm3Mzc

I literally never knew that the original SIM card was credit card sized :psypop:

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




Beve Stuscemi posted:

I literally never knew that the original SIM card was credit card sized :psypop:

I remember my big brother had a mobile phone that had a credit card sized SIM.

By the time I got a mobile phone they were smaller.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Same, my first nokia candybar phone had what we would now call the "big SIM", but clearly it was not

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
> * < < * < *

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




I think the big SIM phone my brother had was a Nokia rinGo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_rinGo

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Beve Stuscemi posted:

What is the best way to literally wash a PC? I came across a sweet Gateway 2000 386DX/33 today that came out of a metal shop. It must have lived most of its life near some sort of wood saw, because its coated in sawdust. Also, being a metal shop, everything is covered in a thin layer of oil, so that means I cant just blow off the sawdust. I need to wash this machine, or ideally at least the motherboard, cables, chassis and faceplate.

Also, I cant in good conscience turn this thing on while its full of flammable, bearing breaking oil-impregnated sawdust.

I used to love old full-size towers like this when I was a youngin and they always seemed so out of reach to me. I'd like to bring this one back if I can, since I also have a lot of nostalgia for this design of Gateway 2000, as its when I really started paying attention to computers.







Well, I haven’t gotten around to washing this PC yet but I did discover that it does not in fact have a 386 as the case badge implies, but it has a 486 DX4 100mhz, which is the fastest, most powerful 486 that intel ever made

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Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

Beve Stuscemi posted:

Well, I haven’t gotten around to washing this PC yet but I did discover that it does not in fact have a 386 as the case badge implies, but it has a 486 DX4 100mhz, which is the fastest, most powerful 486 that intel ever made



Bonus upgrades are a nice thing about old computers like that. What it says on the case might completely undersell what's inside.

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