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A few MPs are touring their local recruitment grounds for fresh Young Conservatives https://twitter.com/ScottBentonMP/status/1643585958430887936
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forkboy84 posted:Big fan of the red faced weirdo Alan Brazil? The only player i remember now is Mick Mills, football was a thing of my childhood that i never continued.
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jeezaloo idk how much more i can take was doing a lot of driving today and i had radio 2 on. Some bloke - not just a nutter ringing in but an ex fuzz they had on a supposed expert - said that people should be forced to attend court to be read their sentence "in straight jackets and with a tongue strap applied" 
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crispix posted:jeezaloo idk how much more i can take Did he have a reason for any of this, or was this just his kink?
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Perverts should be forced to attend court wearing a leather waistcoat with holes for the nipples, and a rubber mask with a zip over the mouth hole, and there should be a hole behind the judge's bench where I can observe to ensure that the trial is conducted properly. That's what should happen to perverts. I've done some drawings.
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1965917 posted:Did he have a reason for any of this, or was this just his kink? It was because the child killer drugman in Liverpool refused to attend court for his sentencing.
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Apr 5, 2023 21:13
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Weird how conservatives don't create worthwhile art.
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I've a friend who lives in Dorset who is lurking in these groups Apparently posts like this are common at the moment 
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Why isn't there more successful literature about being an awful oval office? 
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It's cool how those people associate any kind of human decency with 'leftism', like you could have a book by some 19th century ultra high Tory about a man who gives up immoral wealth for a life of duty and service and they'd be saying "woke! leftist!"
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Apr 5, 2023 21:35
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People always bang on about the literary merit of Ayn Rand, but the excerpts I've seen have just been endless ranting bollocks monologues about how cool it is to be an überman. I never bothered actually reading that garbage but my wife tells me they read ok actually. When I was a preteen I found PJ O Rourke funny, and I look forward to being killed for this when it's forced out of me in some future struggle session
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYDmBdUalgo New amazing depths reached in SM64 torture
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Failed Imagineer posted:People always bang on about the literary merit of Ayn Rand, but the excerpts I've seen have just been endless ranting bollocks monologues about how cool it is to be an überman. I never bothered actually reading that garbage but my wife tells me they read ok actually. I read Atlas Shrugged in my 20s (but not the 33 page speech) and the politics passed me by completely as I've said before on here. I saw it much more from the perspective of a female in the 1930s making it in the world of railway engineering. And it wasn't too bad a read. I'd never heard of Ayn Rand and no idea what she stood for at the time. That's the only one I've read though. Guavanaut posted:It's cool how those people associate any kind of human decency with 'leftism', like you could have a book by some 19th century ultra high Tory about a man who gives up immoral wealth for a life of duty and service and they'd be saying "woke! leftist!" But giving up wealth to serve others IS woke & leftist! Didn't you know! Doing anything for anyone else without necessarily benefitting yourself instantly makes you 'left' in the eyes of the 'right'.
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it's such bollocks, how exactly are you going to ensure that people attend their sentencing? like, the guy who kicked this all off got given 40-odd years for murder, he's not going to give a poo poo about whatever you're going to do to him for refusing to climb up some stairs
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Apr 5, 2023 21:57
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my dad worked on a barge off portland testing torpedos. Back when we made our own torpedos
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to the point that i wonder if she ever had a thing for harold off neighbours
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Part of the issue is that schools and other educational establishments have to teach at least a partially fact-based syllabus, and in general, right wing ideology is devoid of reality. If you look at evidence and draw conclusions from it, you are naturally going to be “left-wing” compared to these people, because they are so completely divorced from the real world. All the evidence says that every right wing policy is bad, and yet they cling to them because of ideology, so naturally they have to say that teaching is left wing.
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Apr 5, 2023 22:09
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Hope nicola leaves her deadbeat husband and continues her affair with that French ambassador.
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Scientastic posted:Part of the issue is that schools and other educational establishments have to teach at least a partially fact-based syllabus, and in general, right wing ideology is devoid of reality. Pretty much this. Plus everything they say is projection. If they had a say they absolutely would push their own ideas to intentionally indoctrinate children. The fact they always accuse their opposition of doing the things they want to is indicative of the fact they can't envisage a world where everyone doesn't think like them. Fact that they can also acknowledge that their own thinking is bad is quite impressive. Probably some greater good bollocks. I'm waiting for that to be the next line as to why we're making murder camps for refugees. Because in 50 years we'll have to deal with a billion of them as we wrecked the climate!
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYDmBdUalgo God I miss Negativland / Over the Edge
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Failed Imagineer posted:People always bang on about the literary merit of Ayn Rand Who the hell does that Her books are telephone directory sized assaults on the English language
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Failed Imagineer posted:People always bang on about the literary merit of Ayn Rand, but the excerpts I've seen have just been endless ranting bollocks monologues about how cool it is to be an überman. I never bothered actually reading that garbage but my wife tells me they read ok actually. Anyone who talks about the literary merits of Rand is deeply sus, she's a loving rotten author without her politics even being considered. It's funny because you google "right-wing authors" or conservative authors & you get lists that are...full of socialists? Like Orwell or James Baldwin. I'm looking at the texts from the AQA website & it's just...One from Macbeth, Romeo & Juliet, The Tempest, The Merchant of Venice, Much Ado About Nothing or Julius Caesar. One from a selection of 19th century novels: Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde, Christmas Carol, Great Expectations, Jane Eyre, Frankenstein, Pride & Prejudice or The Sign of Four. Then from one of 12 texts, 6 prose, 6 drama, & then from one of 3 categories of poetry, Power and Conflict, Love and Relationships and Worlds and Lives. The one the writer is mad about, Power & Conflict, does contain some anti-war poetry. It also has Lord Tennyson, & you're not telling me Charge of the Light Brigade is pacifistic. Pretty sure this is the most I've thought about poetry since I was in school
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The last thing I read that was vaguely right wing was I think Stephen Baxter's 'Manifold Space' which felt like it was trying to be a sci fi Terry Goodkind. Possibly I completely missed blatant satire but it didn't seem good enough to stick with and confirm. '[Lady protag] looked suspiciously at the aid worker. What could he possibly get from giving of his own time and energy to those poors for no material gain? Suddenly a small house boy appeared. Ah, there it is.'
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Pistol_Pete posted:Who the hell does that Freaks and weirdos
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Chubby Henparty posted:The last thing I read that was vaguely right wing was I think Stephen Baxter's 'Manifold Space' which felt like it was trying to be a sci fi Terry Goodkind. Possibly I completely missed blatant satire but it didn't seem good enough to stick with and confirm. I read one of Baxter’s books some years ago. At the time I was making a brief note for every book I read: “Evolution Stephen Baxter 16/10/2012 Nghhh this guy cannot write argh awful awful but the idea of it was interesting so struggled through to the end. I enjoyed the meteorite K/T extinction event although not sure of scientific accuracy. Also way too many female characters considering he cannot write women at all - not even women, he can’t write even a female mouse-thing” I read his collaboration with Terry Pratchett first, The Long Earth. It was mediocre and also sexist.
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Sweet validation! Arguably The Martian is a bit libertarian. Not for his can-do go it alone keenness, but for his 'I studied horticulture for Science, not like the others who were dirty hippies just in it for the weed' and 'I was selected for this mission for my Matt Damon-like charm and likability, negating the need for those psychology witchdoctors with their fake mental health bs'.
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Just get the kids to read Star Wars novels, they're full of right wing military worshipping great man theory bullshit. Sci-fi in general is basically rife with that stuff, to a point I wonder how I wound up a leftist despite reading so much of it as a young'un. loving politicians tying the hands of are troops! Just let the admirals decide what to do! I guess Star Trek kept me grounded. It had way more evil admirals than evil politicians.
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I have thoughts on Long Earth but it's too late at night to bother typing them so I'll just say it sucks balls. but not even enthusiastically, it's kind of a half hearted ball sucking
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Chubby Henparty posted:Sweet validation! It's a constant conflict in his head that is reflected in his novels, in proper Heinleinian traditions. The Ministry for the Future is a shining example of this where he desperately wants some dumb crypto scheme to unite the world to hold hands under a rainbow but he grudgingly admits that without the ruthless and organized terror campaign dedicated to assassinating the super rich and mega polluters it never would've worked. There's a big chapter about the takeover of Davos by environmentalists who take the opportunity to do educational lectures that everybody laughs off and does gently caress all to fix anything or change any minds. It also completely falls apart mid-way through and should've been a short story. He's a good writer because he doesn't just leave that stuff out and replace it with a deus ex machina, which is why Heinlein is a bad one (and Orson Scott Card the worst), but it's all over the place once you know to look for it and it's never really an unreasonable thing for his characters to think because most of his protagonists are a bit dopey and naive. Robinson is a socialist and politically conscious enough that I can't really rule out that this is just him trying to make good, complicated characters. He's always been a big character and relationships guy for all his scifi covers. Now Cixin Liu, THERE'S a brain I'd love a chance to pick at.
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Useful reminder that when it comes to grooming gangs, the real menace are the ones in uniform: https://twitter.com/danfinn95/status/1643299025985101839?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q
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Epic High Five posted:KSRchat You seem to think KSR wrote The Martian? But anyway, the bit you spoilered I don't think was "grudgingly " at all, I think that's like...maybe the key message in the book even if it's kind of woven through it to be somewhat under the radar. His politics are good
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I enjoy the film of The Martian, but I'd also pay good* money to watch a version scripted by KRS-One. * - £12 or less
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Failed Imagineer posted:You seem to think KSR wrote The Martian? I'm an idiot and got it mixed up with the Mars books because I was typing on the go and it's a thought I had about both authors lol. Ignore me! Ministry was a solid 7 out of 10 for me and mostly I just think it was too long. I liked a lot about it, especially the blowtorch of a start and tone setting.
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Chubby Henparty posted:Sweet validation! The author of The Martian - Andy Weir - is an absolute dweeb. He used to have a webcomic! And he sure posted some opinions in it  If the thread is very very good, I might post some links.
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