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nine-gear crow posted:God, what if that's just like a toggle you can switch on and off from the captain's chair? The Turbolift Activity Log Vocalizer toggle. You just push one button and suddenly every time anyone uses the turbolift the computer announces to the whole bridge "TURBOLIFT ACTIVATED!" I would 100% toggle that on every time I left my shift rotation.
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ashpanash posted:I also think the Vadic death scene was super lazy. Freezing in space, then shattering? Super dumb, plus she's a loving changeling. We've seen her turn to goo and we saw her in a flashback extend her body into a spike think to kill her abuser, right? That's a fun idea, I liked the idea of the Deflector dish as well. And no she is not our major threat apparently (despite getting all the screentime?). That would be Scaryface and arguably Lore? ...why the gently caress did I watch this  This season sucks in new ways because holy poo poo you could actually fix all of this! 
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It’s an alert created by the Lower Decks shift so that they know when to stop loving around on the bridge and get back to work
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nine-gear crow posted:God, what if that's just like a toggle you can switch on and off from the captain's chair? The Turbolift Activity Log Vocalizer toggle. You just push one button and suddenly every time anyone uses the turbolift the computer announces to the whole bridge "TURBOLIFT ACTIVATED!" This is what Captain Jellico did that got everyone so steamed up. Nobody’s sneaking out to take a poo poo on his watch
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ashpanash posted:I also think the Vadic death scene was super lazy. Freezing in space, then shattering? Super dumb, plus she's a loving changeling. We've seen her turn to goo and we saw her in a flashback extend her body into a spike think to kill her abuser, right? This was great but these motherfuckers are never giving us beam phasers again
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Look if we get beam phasers then how can we ever do the scene with our villain listening to gunshots going off all around the ship as if they’re in the middle of a Vietnam flashback
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Look if we get beam phasers then how can we ever do the scene with our villain listening to gunshots going off all around the ship as if they’re in the middle of a Vietnam flashback Hey, she was vibing to the phaser gunshot sounds. Huge difference. It's how you can tell she was evil after 7 episodes of her already being intractably evil, the fact that she pranced around the bridge and started waving her arms around like she was Lydia Tár conducting the orchestra of death over the loudspeaker.
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I totally thought Vadic was whatever but I was like "oh maybe there is a bait-switch and the big bad is manipulating her rage, that would be something" and it's so much worse than I ever expected with her. She's just there to chew Scenery and then do loving Jack poo poo for 8 episodes. This is our scary antagonist? And we still don't know who the gently caress she was working for? The gently caress is this plot and pacing writing?
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 Vadic. If only you were chill like Fonzie. Spiner having a blast. He's finally a real boy  lol Raffi in the hallway was just stupid. Why did that scene even need to be shot? Khanstant posted:lmao that longass drawn out vadic death scene, classic trek on top of those sword slaughters. elnor missing all the poo poo he was ever for lol Haha I was thinking the same thing.
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 I just realized something: Giordi mentions Data's ethical subroutines (Giordi what?!) Won't allow him to take a life for any reason (even though in TNG Data shot at things all the time, and came very close to murdering that Collector dude). So he couldn't do the airlocking himself on the Changelings.. ...Until the merger with Lore!  That's right! Data defeated Lore with Radical empathy, and his first order of business after this was to horrifically murder other life forms! DATA CAN MURDER NOW YAAAAYYY what a bright optimistic future! I'm changing my 6 to a 4.5 at best, holy gently caress The acting of Spiner, Sirtis, Dorn, Burton, and Frakes are the only thing saving this thing, along with the horribly under written concept TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Apr 6, 2023 |
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I want the final two episodes to be so bizarrely stupid that they loop back around to being legitimately entertaining. That’s all I ask.
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Let's not forget all the changelings on the ground after being stabbed. Were they just unconscious? Maybe lock them up in a force-field protected brig? Nope, let's get Worf to come in here and vaporize them either way just to be sure.
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This season is bad but because it isn't nuclear radiation making the earth uninhabitable level bad like S1+S2 we are willing to accept some of it as mildly enjoyable. S3 is still dumb, juvenile, vulgar, and full of contrivances.
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TulliusCicero posted:
Surely Data has operated the con and fired torpedos before right? Also he tried to kill The Most Toys man
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The scene where Geordi and Data had a buddy moment felt so forced and awkward, like they read online they should do that and decided to do it on the set that day and a bored cameraman agree to film it which worked except for when they had to walk over him to exit the shot.
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You know how at the beginning of First Contact when Worf shows up with the Defiant and the soundtrack does a little hit of the Klingon theme from TMP? Wasn't that a fun little callback? Well if it was fun once, surely it must be even better if we play it every loving time that Worf appears, right?
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I wonder how much they paid Spiner because it wasn't enough for him to even pretend to want to be there
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlZE8mQxv5I
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Lister posted:Let's not forget all the changelings on the ground after being stabbed. Were they just unconscious? Maybe lock them up in a force-field protected brig? Nope, let's get Worf to come in here and vaporize them either way just to be sure. Remember when Starfleet took prisoners and really tried to avoid taking life if they could? John Wick of Dogs posted:Surely Data has operated the con and fired torpedos before right? Also he tried to kill The Most Toys man He has! Many, MANY times Hell in First Contact he straight up killed the Borg Queen and her minions G-III posted:This season is bad but because it isn't nuclear radiation making the earth uninhabitable level bad like S1+S2 we are willing to accept some of it as mildly enjoyable. To me it's even worse because the potential and beginning skeleton like the legs of a good story are there, but at some point Terry ran in and said "OOOH WHAT IF THIS THING HAD A GUN FOR A HEAD AND TENTACLES FOR ARMS, AND 3 OF THOSE!" and everybody just did what the nepotism hire coffee boy wanted. There is writing and acting that could be good-amazing in a better show: This poo poo falls entirely on the showrunner for how awful it fell apart.
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Khanstant posted:I wonder how much they paid Spiner because it wasn't enough for him to even pretend to want to be there It's an if you imagine Lore as Brent Spiner's opinion on this dumpsterfire
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I dunno, I doubt Spiner was going ever going to turn down an easy paycheck that let him ham it up the way he did with Lore.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It’s an alert created by the Lower Decks shift so that they know when to stop loving around on the bridge and get back to work NIGHT CREW!!!! Beer me
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Spiner did The Master of Disguise. He has no low bar.
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I could absolutely buy Data would not kill Lore though. That's fair
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Khanstant posted:I wonder how much they paid Spiner because it wasn't enough for him to even pretend to want to be there I have to think that showing up again puts another shot in the arm of people wanting to see him at conventions too. So he gets a ripple effect of extra income in the future above and beyond this one job. Plus if he didn't do it, he would be getting asked "hey, why didn't you do the last season of picard with everybody else?" questions for the rest of his life.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:I could absolutely buy Data would not kill Lore though. That's fair Even the episode itself felt pretty noncommittal about that though. Like yeah we had the embarrassing Spiner hug and goodbye but then two minutes later he’s telling Geordi that parts of Lore are still with him. When I saw the Datalore battle I was really hoping it would end with Data giving Lore all these moments of compassion and friendship and camaraderie and having Lore willingly integrate them into his program as a way of Data actually dying but in his death giving Lore these things he never had the opportunity to have. Then, that would somehow result in a Lore that finally grappled with his hatred and traumas and would actually strive to be better and imo that’s a far more interesting character to play with. But no, we only have two episodes left so DATA’S BACK EVERYBODY! Please clap.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Even the episode itself felt pretty noncommittal about that though. Like yeah we had the embarrassing Spiner hug and goodbye but then two minutes later he’s telling Geordi that parts of Lore are still with him.  Holy poo poo redeeming Lore through radical empathy would have been way more Star Trek. Great rewrite tbh
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TulliusCicero posted:
It genuinely seemed like that was the direction they were heading in! But no, Data does a last minute “haha get hosed buddy this was my plan all along” instead.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:You know how at the beginning of First Contact when Worf shows up with the Defiant and the soundtrack does a little hit of the Klingon theme from TMP? Wasn't that a fun little callback? DS9 did this from time to time too but it was usually more subtle (which yeah, is partly because the soundtrack is in general, but still). it's fine i think
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I wasn't exactly sure how hacky they were going with the red door thing, so I double checked what the door to picard's mom's room was. It was a white door with a lever handle, and not a red door with a knob handle. For a minute there, I was sure they were going to make ghost mom the big bad.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It genuinely seemed like that was the direction they were heading in! But no, Data does a last minute “haha get hosed buddy this was my plan all along” instead. Agreed. I thought they were doing that, and I guess they did except the end was like "Haha it's actually Data!"
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Lol that all of the TNG crew were listed as "special guest" in the credits. I probably should just stop watching this show, but the inertia is real and there's only 2 episodes left
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that's gotta be deliberate. honestly if they started revealing most of this poo poo four episodes ago i'm not sure many people would have stuck with it, but now there's only two left and they basically half-mashed the reset button so it doesn't seem like too much of an ask
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TulliusCicero posted:
Italian TNG watcher spotted
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Professor Beetus posted:Italian TNG watcher spotted Lmao I didn't even realize I spelled Geordi that way
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I bet the finale will have the Enterprise-C appear again, only this time, from an earlier time period than its first temporal anomaly, Jack Crusher will go back in time on it, get amnesia, then become Picard's Academy friend, knock up Crusher, and bing bong, Wesley is suddenly Picard's grandson.
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LMAO this is a loving trainwreck of a show and I am all about it. gently caress yea.
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Jack Crusher is actually Sisko in prophet form Don't ask how, LOOK VADIC GOT OWNED YEEEAAAAHHHH
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Reminder that DS9 changelings from the Gamma Quadrant were waaaay more skilled at their poo poo than Odo. Vadic not having the practice or knowledge to turn into a warp capable creature strikes me as okay given how she was raised by someone who was more Nazi Scientist than Mora was. The Troi deal, however... I have no words. None.
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By wasting Lore as a villain, the show remains very faithful to TNG. I do like Data becoming a real boy though. Worf still owns, and always will. Good riddance to Vadic. Dumb villain, no connection at all to the heroes, made no sense. If she comes back, I will be sad. I was tired of the psychic Jack mystery the episode they introduced it, but they just.. keep doing it
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