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Yaoi Gagarin
Feb 20, 2014

DoombatINC posted:

Someday I'll have an Enthoo Pro II, the only computer case that has 3 bed / 2 bath and a pool out back

Look up the Fractal Torrent. That's what I got and I think I'll be able to keep using it forever

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Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

kliras posted:

what are we even doing with pc games at this point

https://twitter.com/Okami13_/status/1643692407177764871

just checked with the official website, and it's real. all of it.

you can also tell by the way the specs are listed that amd moneyhatted the game lol

The thing to keep in mind with huge worldwide AAAAAA releases is that they often include all the dubs of the voice acting in every supported language because "gently caress it, DVDs do it" and you must download all of them.

One of the reasons getting games on the high seas these days is easier on your bandwidth bill than downloading them legally.

repiv posted:

must be the fancy kraken decompression engine running circles around zlib

Zlib is completely open, though, so Microsoft could just optimize it if they wish. Zlib's licensing does not even require that changes share their source code.

But I'm one of those "rather die in open-source fire than drink proprietary water" sorts of people.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Apr 6, 2023

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Craptacular! posted:

The thing to keep in mind with huge worldwide AAAAAA releases is that they often include all the dubs of the voice acting in every supported language because "gently caress it, DVDs do it" and you must download all of them.

One of the reasons getting games on the high seas these days is easier on your bandwidth bill than downloading them legally.

Who the hell has bandwidth limits in 2023?

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

jisforjosh posted:

Who the hell has bandwidth limits in 2023?

Comcast so some huge portion of US homes. It’s 1TB I think.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

jisforjosh posted:

Who the hell has bandwidth limits in 2023?

Literally anywhere where Comcast, Cox, or Time-Warner owns the regional cable monopoly?

EDIT: For perspective, Final Fantasy 13 had 30GB in localized files unique to English, due to voice acting both in the game and in CG cutscenes. When fans wanted the ability to play in Japanese, Square's solution was to add another 30GB to the base package of voice acted audio and CG cutscenes re-rendered for Japanese lipsyncing that you had to download whether you wanted to play in Japanese or not.

EDIT2: This reminds me of that pornographic fighting game from way back when, that was all Mortal Kombat style mocapped pornstars fighting each other and stripping each other for fatalities. Someone asked the creator how he intended to prevent piracy, and he said he didn't need any authenticity checks at all because all that video made it one of the largest video games in history for it's day, so he relied on the filesize being too big to download with the residential connections of the day.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Apr 6, 2023

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

Craptacular! posted:

Zlib is completely open, though, so Microsoft could just optimize it if they wish. Zlib's licensing does not even require that changes share their source code.

well the decompressor is baked into silicon now, so they can't make any optimizations that require changing the actual zlib encoding for the rest of this console generation

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

Craptacular! posted:

EDIT2: This reminds me of that pornographic fighting game from way back when, that was all Mortal Kombat style mocapped pornstars fighting each other and stripping each other for fatalities. Someone asked the creator how he intended to prevent piracy, and he said he didn't need any authenticity checks at all because all that video made it one of the largest video games in history for it's day, so he relied on the filesize being too big to download with the residential connections of the day.

similarly windows XPs installer disk was padded out with dummy data to fill the entire CD and make it more annoying to pirate

according to legend the dummy data is an encrypted copy of microsoft bob

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/technet-magazine/cc565089(v=msdn.10)?redirectedfrom=MSDN

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

VostokProgram posted:

Look up the Fractal Torrent. That's what I got and I think I'll be able to keep using it forever

Wish I would've bought this or the Meshify when I built my current system a couple years ago but I ended up reusing my HAF 922

kliras
Mar 27, 2021

Craptacular! posted:

Literally anywhere where Comcast, Cox, or Time-Warner owns the regional cable monopoly?

EDIT: For perspective, Final Fantasy 13 had 30GB in localized files unique to English, due to voice acting both in the game and in CG cutscenes. When fans wanted the ability to play in Japanese, Square's solution was to add another 30GB to the base package of voice acted audio and CG cutscenes re-rendered for Japanese lipsyncing that you had to download whether you wanted to play in Japanese or not.
it was always fun to get the european version of a playstation game and get an ungodly amount of additional languages you were never gonna play a game in

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Craptacular! posted:

Zlib is completely open, though, so Microsoft could just optimize it if they wish. Zlib's licensing does not even require that changes share their source code.

You can only make zlib so fast while maintaining compatibility, which is why zstd exists.

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

for folks that haven't noticed, there's been a pretty decent drop in SSD prices recently
i just picked up a 4TB SSD NVME

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Subjunctive posted:

You can only make zlib so fast while maintaining compatibility, which is why zstd exists.

Ah, I thought that was just something for canonical’s yearly break things for fun quota. ;)

kliras
Mar 27, 2021

kliras posted:

what are we even doing with pc games at this point

https://twitter.com/Okami13_/status/1643692407177764871

just checked with the official website, and it's real. all of it.

you can also tell by the way the specs are listed that amd moneyhatted the game lol
can't even come up with a joke before reality beats you to it so why bother

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XreHo4lHnXo

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

hobbesmaster posted:

Ah, I thought that was just something for canonical’s yearly break things for fun quota. ;)

Canonical wishes it did things like create zstd.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

kliras posted:

can't even come up with a joke before reality beats you to it so why bother

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XreHo4lHnXo

Omg that video lol

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

jisforjosh posted:

Who the hell has bandwidth limits in 2023?

My ISP (WOW) enabled bandwidth limits during the early shutdown phase of the pandemic because they just had to to cope with all the new traffic, or so they said. The bandwidth limits are still there, three years later, unless you want to pay extra for an unlimited plan.

Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Apr 7, 2023

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

mobby_6kl posted:

I'm in the clear :smug:

Not that I'd ever play a star wars game.

It's actually a Dark Souls game. Also it's got a better plot than at least half of the Star Wars movies so there's that.

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


Zero VGS posted:

It's actually a Dark Souls game. Also it's got a better plot than at least half of the Star Wars movies so there's that.

now im definitely not going to play it, i can get the plot off youtube within a few months of release

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

there's online chatter about a ps5 pro slated for end 2024 - not sure if RDNA-? would have enough juice to get a pro to where it needs to be for decent RT
and if RT's not feasible, not sure how'd they market it beyond more 8K BS

Former Human
Oct 15, 2001

MarcusSA posted:

If that’s medium how bad is low?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQSIT18bOvg

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


Zero VGS posted:

You want either a riser that is solid PCB, flexible PCB, or "twinaxial". Just don't get anything that's a normal ribbon cable; it will have crosstalk and probably won't hold up to PCI 3.0/4.0

edit: I can vouch that this works perfectly: https://www.amazon.com/LINKUP-RX6900XT-High-Speed-Gen4%E2%94%83Universal-Compatible/dp/B08XN26DRZ/

Thank you! This looks perfect. Very much the kind of thing I did not want to buy blind. Twinax is loving expensive but it'll be worth it when the VII is leaning up against my case glass whirring away.

Never really intended it but I'm about to hit most of the upper limits on X570. 128gb of ram, every available PCI-E lane used. Only thing left would be a cheap 5950X if I find one.


shrike82 posted:

there's online chatter about a ps5 pro slated for end 2024 - not sure if RDNA-? would have enough juice to get a pro to where it needs to be for decent RT

RDNA4 should be where RT is no longer a compromise on AMD.

New Zealand can eat me fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Apr 7, 2023

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

New Zealand can eat me posted:

Twinax is loving expensive but it'll be worth it when the VII is leaning up against my case glass whirring away.

For a while, the only Twinaxial risers in existence were made by 3M and they were in the vicinity of $300 each. Be thankful these randos started making them the in past 5 years, $50 is a downright bargain in comparison, especially with inflation.


Come on, let's not exaggerate. Doom 3 on a 12 megabyte graphics card looks MUCH BETTER than TLOU on an RTX 3080.

edit: Seriously though I managed to beat TLOU on my 3080 but I had to run it at 1080p and then DLSS the resolution down to 800p. And even then I could only run the textures on medium/high.

Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Apr 7, 2023

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

mobby_6kl posted:

I'm in the clear :smug:

Not that I'd ever play a star wars game.
Jedi Academy is one of the few games I stole only to buy twice over. I think the other is Vampire: Bloodlines (the champ is still System Shock 2, which I bought in box and subsequently on Steam and GOG).

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

Twerk from Home posted:

That specific barrel looks like half life 2 on the DX7 renderer. Wild.

progress from shorthanded and perpetually on crunchtime devs

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
That HUB always biased for AMD. Smh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WM_w7TBbj0

DLSS 2 still notably superior to FSR 2 for image quality.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Craptacular! posted:

Literally anywhere where Comcast, Cox, or Time-Warner owns the regional cable monopoly?

Weird, I had Time Warner and subsequently now havre Spectrum and have never had a bandwidth cap

MagusDraco posted:


Prepare to be capped as soon as FCC merger stipulations end


Basically as part of the merger in 2016 they (time warner before they became spectrum) weren't allowed to do datacaps. That stipulation ends middle of May 2023

Figured that would change eventually, thanks for the heads up

jisforjosh fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Apr 7, 2023

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

jisforjosh posted:

Weird, I had Time Warner and subsequently now havre Spectrum and have never had a bandwidth cap


Prepare to be capped as soon as FCC merger stipulations end


Basically as part of the merger in 2016 they (time warner before they became spectrum) weren't allowed to do datacaps. That stipulation ends middle of May 2023

MagusDraco fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Apr 7, 2023

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I saw this deal and had a chuckle



It’s not bad though if you can sell the key for 30-40. But I’m not sure you can sell these keys.

MarcusSA fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Apr 7, 2023

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FG_My0b3mY

A video about CP2077's path tracing mode straight from CDPR instead of Nvidia. There are many more comparisons here, and some performance numbers that are perhaps a bit more honest than what Nvidia's been showing. The 4090 is getting 80 - 90fps with DLSS Performance and FG enabled in some of these scenes.

CBD Corndog
Jun 21, 2009



MarcusSA posted:

I saw this deal and had a chuckle



It’s not bad though if you can sell the key for 30-40. But I’m not sure you can sell these keys.

Yeah, it depends on if it goes through AMD's verification system or not.

I got a code for Company of Heroes 3 with my 5800X3D a few months ago, and to activate the thing it took creating an account on AMD.com, downloading a verification tool, then it let me add that code to my AMD account which then gave me a code to activate on Sega's site which I had to create another account for, which couldn't be used yet because the game isn't out until May.

Its a dogshit system with far too many hoops to jump through to stop the end user from reselling the key.

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

TEAM NVIDIA:
FORUM POLICE

Kibner posted:

That HUB always biased for AMD. Smh

Tim video, not Steve video.

Get back to me when Steve drops a twitter shitpost about whether they should change all their testing to use DLSS

Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know
Hardware Unboxed just posted a huge video comparing FSR to DLSS 2. Pretty interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WM_w7TBbj0

TLDR DLSS is way, way better. Not that it's a surprise but it's cool to see 26 games compared, awesome video.

Bloopsy
Jun 1, 2006

you have been visited by the Tasty Garlic Bread. you will be blessed by having good Garlic Bread in your life time, but only if you comment "ty garlic bread" in the thread below

CBD Corndog posted:

Yeah, it depends on if it goes through AMD's verification system or not.

I got a code for Company of Heroes 3 with my 5800X3D a few months ago, and to activate the thing it took creating an account on AMD.com, downloading a verification tool, then it let me add that code to my AMD account which then gave me a code to activate on Sega's site which I had to create another account for, which couldn't be used yet because the game isn't out until May.

I too got this cpu and game 2 weeks ago and was able to play COH3 that day. It’s been available for almost 2 months now on Steam. But yeah the verification process was a pain in the rear end that I almost didn’t bother finishing for a game I didn’t even know I was going to get with the cpu. Why should they care what someone does with the key once they’ve purchased the product?

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
Later today, I'm going to see if using the igpu in my cpu to run Firefox will stop videos playing in it from getting laggy when the dgpu goes under high load. It seems like it should work. The one in the 7000 Ryzen series has h264, hevc, and av-1 decoders, so I shouldn't be losing any capabilities.

I tried to see if anyone else has tried this even with Intel cpu's and didn't find anything. I might just be doing something pointless.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FG_My0b3mY

A video about CP2077's path tracing mode straight from CDPR instead of Nvidia. There are many more comparisons here, and some performance numbers that are perhaps a bit more honest than what Nvidia's been showing. The 4090 is getting 80 - 90fps with DLSS Performance and FG enabled in some of these scenes.
It's hard to see when the effects are already fairly subtle vs normal RTX and they do a lot of for wipes / quick cuts instead of split / side-by-side. I'm definitely not getting 4090 FOMO but it's nice to know I'll have something to look forward to on a 5080 or whatever.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
Even if DLSS is far better, it's up to studios to actually implement it instead of something similar that reaches far more people. Some huge studios with resources will do it, especially if Nvidia cuts a check and does half the work, but all the excitement anymore is around indies and occasional Mid-Tier releases like Hi-Fi Rush because the large budgets are tied up trying to make "Live Service MMO-Lite With Seasonal Blockchain Rewards" concepts that few customers actually want.

Kibner posted:

Later today, I'm going to see if using the igpu in my cpu to run Firefox will stop videos playing in it from getting laggy when the dgpu goes under high load. It seems like it should work. The one in the 7000 Ryzen series has h264, hevc, and av-1 decoders, so I shouldn't be losing any capabilities.

I tried to see if anyone else has tried this even with Intel cpu's and didn't find anything. I might just be doing something pointless.

Firefox used to have issues for a long time with multi-GPU and not allowing you to specify which one it will use. Win10/11 now let you pick a GPU that will be assigned to a program in the new Settings app and then System > Display > Graphics.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Apr 7, 2023

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Craptacular! posted:

Firefox used to have issues for a long time with multi-GPU and not allowing you to specify which one it will use. Win10/11 now let you pick a GPU that will be assigned to a program in the new Settings app and then System > Display > Graphics.

Yes, that menu is exactly what I am using to do this.

KingKapalone
Dec 20, 2005
1/16 Native American + 1/2 Hungarian = Totally Badass
I have two sleep issues (one specifically GPU related). Here's the first:

Windows 10
EVGA 3080
5800X3D
XB271HU monitor

I can't remember if this happened as soon as I put in the 5800X3D, but I don't think it did. My PC would go to sleep when it was supposed to, but when I would wake it up and play a game, my FPS would be unplayable. The GPU clock speed is staying at idle speeds.

I then upgraded to Windows 11 and got an AW3423DWF monitor. I ran DDU after hoping that would help with the above issue, but it didn't. I kept on using the PC for another few weeks and then my second issue started.

Now my PC does not automatically go to sleep at all which is bad with a new OLED monitor. I tried running powercfg -requests and nothing is running. I've reset the power settings back to default, but no help. Right now I'm in Balanced mode.

Any ideas? I'm almost wanting to reformat the whole PC since it might be overdue for that, but I've just been extremely busy lately and that sounds like a huge chore.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Honestly windows blows my rear end when it comes to sleep poo poo. I’ve been dealing with a similar issue for years so now I just put the thing to sleep when I’m done since I can’t rely on windows to do it.

Only suggestion I would make is to unplug all your usb devices and see if the problem persists.

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Hemish
Jan 25, 2005

MarcusSA posted:

Honestly windows blows my rear end when it comes to sleep poo poo. I’ve been dealing with a similar issue for years so now I just put the thing to sleep when I’m done since I can’t rely on windows to do it.

Only suggestion I would make is to unplug all your usb devices and see if the problem persists.

I second the usb suggestion. I never put my computer to sleep but my Thrustmaster T16000m Joystick setup will straight up not even let my screens turn off for the power saving mode let alone sleep mode if I were to try to use it. I have to unplug it when not using it to play.

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