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Isnt black yellow black the HE combo? Reference. may be out of date tho. Then again impact doesnt look like training to begin with.
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Dandywalken posted:Know whats really weird? Hes firing a gold/yellow band. Isnt that a training round? given that there’s an explosion at the other end, no probably not. especially since the trainer at4 fires a 9mm round.
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hypnophant posted:given that there’s an explosion at the other end, no probably not. especially since the trainer at4 fires a 9mm round. 9mm tracer round which is kind of cool.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:I guess that's it then, the Swedish defense industry might as well pack it in and give up. drat fools can't even design an AT launcher that doesn't try to kill its operator, which is also a problem I've often had with their flat pack furniture. Yeah the Swedes keep shipping stuff with a target on the buyer.
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Murgos posted:9mm tracer round which is kind of cool. Yeah, AT4 training with tracer rounds is really fun and chill. Had one of those days of "we have too many rounds, have at it" and after most people got bored two of us took the two trainers and started working on plinking tanks at increasingly stupid ranges or trying to place the tracer directly into the turret rings to get weird ricochet sounds
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The weirdest part of that is that he's undercutting the main Russian propaganda effort. "NATO weapons are poorly-designed and ineffective, that's why Our Heroes are suffering so greatly and taking so long to secure victory."
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Medvedev is in a bit of a mood, it seems https://twitter.com/medvedevrussiae/status/1644669039095037953?s=46
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Alan Smithee posted:Same dude fired an NLAW at a BMP and managed to miss. For some reason Russia gave him a second one so he managed to fire it correctly and when he saw what top down does to armor he went "well poo poo"
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Medvedev is in a bit of a mood, it seems https://twitter.com/dril/status/549425182767861760 evergreen
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Jimmy Smuts posted:It seems the more comedic a military movie is, the more accurate it is. The most accurate movie to my military experience wasn't even about the military. 
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Madurai posted:The weirdest part of that is that he's undercutting the main Russian propaganda effort. "NATO weapons are poorly-designed and ineffective, that's why Our Heroes are suffering so greatly and taking so long to secure victory." 
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when my mom helped write the manual for the very first GPS backpack units, she was told to write to a 2nd-grade reading level. Can't imagine it's gotten better since then.
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Normal Barbarian posted:when my mom helped write the manual for the very first GPS backpack units, she was told to write to a 2nd-grade reading level. Can't imagine it's gotten better since then. There were Joes in my unit that were functionally illiterate, so I believe it.
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I know it's speculation either way but I figure people here have a more educated guess than your average joe What's the possible number of people who would have access to the leaked material? Idk chain of command but I don't imagine it was some 5 star general who leaked this on an anime titty channel
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Alan Smithee posted:I know it's speculation either way but I figure people here have a more educated guess than your average joe Can't estimate actual numbers but those kinds of reports are heavily caveated as they're compiled from a lot of sensitive sources, and access is very restricted. Generally the more specific and detailed the numbers in a report, the more restricted and fewer people would have it. Theoretically though, someone who had NTK, and had the correct clearance and background investigation, was read in, would have access. It could be anyone from the rawest freshly-trained analyst to some mid-50s salty dude. Whoever leaked it will get found though because downloads/prints of documents like that are meticulously logged and tracked. When you're on that kind of network there is a microscope up your rear end for everything you do. orange juche fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Apr 10, 2023 |
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I'd be disappointed if those documents didn't have some sort of steganographic identifier or watermark that would trace them back to their source.
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I have to imagine that the planning and analysis staff(s) supporting Ukraine right now is huge. I can’t imagine it’s done anything over the last year but suck in more and more people. Multiple groups in multiple places handling different aspects and support the various commands that intersect. I’d guess in the high hundred’s have access and it could easily be more.
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Jimmy Smuts posted:It seems the more comedic a military movie is, the more accurate it is. The biggest exception I can think of is The Caine Mutiny.
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psydude posted:There were Joes in my unit that were functionally illiterate, so I believe it. poo poo, I knew senior NCOs that were functionally illiterate.
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Is Ukraine going to run out of manpower and ammo?
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ASAPI posted:poo poo, I knew senior NCOs that were functionally illiterate. Joke Miriam posted:Is Ukraine going to run out of manpower and ammo? Manpower? That's a good question, and it probably figures into how the drat war is being run. I'm guessing Russia is trying to play the long game when it comes to manpower, but it's not WW1 anymore (oh and they lost that war). Jimmy Smuts fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Apr 9, 2023 |
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Joke Miriam posted:Is Ukraine going to run out of manpower and ammo? Russians tried VERY hard to give the impression that UA is yanking people off the streets. De facto they're still picky who they recruit. It's not so simple to join if you don't have previous military experience.
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Joke Miriam posted:Is Ukraine going to run out of manpower and ammo? Ukraine has been pretty cagey about their losses and manpower situation, so I think it's hard to say.
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Normal Barbarian posted:when my mom helped write the manual for the very first GPS backpack units, she was told to write to a 2nd-grade reading level. Can't imagine it's gotten better since then. Is that why they were putting out comic books about how to maintain M16s for the Vietnam era?
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Is that why they were putting out comic books about how to maintain M16s for the Vietnam era? They started putting out those comic books during Korea
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Joke Miriam posted:Is Ukraine going to run out of manpower and ammo? The situation for AA missiles seems to be pretty dire. For artillery ammo, both sides are running low, and my guess is that training capacity/quality and equipment is more relevant than a worry that manpower itself is running out.
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They knew Scott Adams was bad all the way back in the 1940s.
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The general feeling I've picked up from those who seem to know what they are talking about regarding ammo is that both sides can't produce as much as they would like to have, so they are trying to save as much as possible for use during the UA counterattack which is likely to occur in the next couple of months, hence the current acute shell shortage.
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Hannibal Rex posted:The situation for AA missiles seems to be pretty dire. Are you using AA to mean anti-air? As in surface-to-air?
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Jimmy Smuts posted:Story time Can't speak for ASAPI but as an E-4 I was definitely do all the writing for an E-6, counsels and reports etc. Dude was a great infantryman, knew his job to a T but goddamn his grammar and spelling was horrible. McNally posted:They started putting out those comic books during Korea Does PS monthly still get printed? fake edit: quick google search theres a website now https://www.psmagazine.army.mil/ with printable posters https://www.psmagazine.army.mil/Resources/Posters/ these are definitely going around my cubicle.
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Godholio posted:Are you using AA to mean anti-air? As in surface-to-air? Do you have any idea how far behind the Alcoholics Anonymous factory is on its production schedule?
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Wrong Theory posted:Can't speak for ASAPI but as an E-4 I was definitely do all the writing for an E-6, counsels and reports etc. Dude was a great infantryman, knew his job to a T but goddamn his grammar and spelling was horrible. Big dash of this in my units. Had a 1SG that couldn't read a memo out loud to save his rear end. He would "make corrections" on NCOERs juuuuust before they headed to BN. His "help" was always redlined and sent back. He ended up getting relieved during a deployment for having a bunch of porn on the army laptop (they ignored the fact that he was also loving PVTs). Had a platoon SGT that couldn't type anything. Even spell check was somehow defeated by him. He would make various signs and post them along hallways and near doors. Some had arrows, we don't know why. None of them made sense. I wouldn't be surprised if he was either suffering a mental break or having strokes. Had a different 1SG copy an award bullet from my paperwork onto his, he didn't change poo poo. We never saw that one come back, but he was also relieved for his part in ignoring the doctors and deploying a sick soldier that died within 18 hrs of being in Iraq. That guy would invent words regularly and refuse to change them on paperwork. I felt sorry for our orderly room. I averaged at least 2 leaders per unit over E7 that would struggle to pass a 1st grade English class.
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ASAPI posted:Big dash of this in my units. Had a 1SG that couldn't read a memo out loud to save his rear end. He would "make corrections" on NCOERs juuuuust before they headed to BN. His "help" was always redlined and sent back. He ended up getting relieved during a deployment for having a bunch of porn on the army laptop (they ignored the fact that he was also loving PVTs). I must've been in a very different Army from everyone else.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Is that why they were putting out comic books about how to maintain M16s for the Vietnam era? Less to do with literacy, and more to do with a measure of entertainment. At the end of each segment, you need to read fluent Army to understand. Draw a pretty woman with cartoon guns, and it's something to read when bored. This ensured the troops were getting important info in an easy, accessible way that makes it enjoyable to read, and not a jargon diatribe or another lecture from the guy who can't pronounce English unless it's written phonetically. Comic legend Will Eisner was responsible for much of the art through the years, and creating some of the characters. The M16 is the most infamous thanks to the myths and legends surrounding the adoption of the M16, but it predates it and lived on forever. Ask yourself this, for a fun exercise: if the early M16 was so bad, why not re-issue M14? Because the M14 performed worse in Vietnam than even the early "Mattel Made Deathtraps".
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Another platoon's platoon sergeant when I was a big dumb scout got sent to the TBI clinic after he wrote a report. Apparently it was just tragic. They sent him back and said no, there's no symptoms of undiagnosed TBI, he's just pretty much illiterate, congrats. He came back, thought it was funny and just used to say "no child left behind, hooah!"
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A.o.D. posted:I must've been in a very different Army from everyone else. It’s BS. Over E6 promotions requires a bunch of classroom time and formal training. I’m sure a couple slip through here and there but in my experience pretty much all staff NCOs, especially E8s and E9s had accumulated years of formal classroom time through various leadership courses and other required training. Even the grunts. Murgos fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Apr 9, 2023 |
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A.o.D. posted:I must've been in a very different Army from everyone else. There are poor writers, but anyone who's a tragically bad writer to the point of being borderline illiterate is decidedly the exception and rare. There are some MOS with extremely low waiverable GT score requirements, but even the worst writers are just very bad, but still intelligible. The only guy I ever knew who was effectively nonfunctional in written word and needed people to explain everything to him was being medically chaptered for being extremely and repeatedly blown up by IEDs and IDF. On the other hand, once had an E-5 who was understandable written, but his local accent was decidedly hard. I worked with him enough to where I could understand him, but the commander essentially had to talk to him through one of the few of us who could translate as an intermediary.
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mlmp08 posted:repeatedly blown up by IEDs and IDF. Jeez, what did the israelis have against him
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