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Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

Scruffpuff posted:

Someone mentioned it a million pages back, but I reallly get a kick out of any games with a kind of spreading disease or poison effect. Not chain lightning kind of stuff necessarily, but I do have clear examples:

- Grim Dawn: Bloody Pox. A spreading DOT that starts its counter over on each spread. Special mention to the fact that the effect lingers on corpses for its full duration, so running a string of mobs into even one corpse starts the spread over again. I get the biggest kick out of casting a single spell and hearing half the dungeon dying as my XP bar goes up. Falls off in effectiveness late game, but a barrel of monkeys before that.

- Assassin's Creed Origins (others tried it, I found this one did it best): Poison. Similar to above, it lingers for a while on the bodies. Just such a funny sight to see guards wander over to see why their buddy died, get poisoned themselves, wander off to die in a crowd, and seeing all those guys get infected too. Enhanced by the greenish cloud that follows them around. I can't count how much time I spend in highly trafficked areas to see how many people I could wreck with a single dart. Sadly, for some reason the way they timed it, it never really ever got a super good streak going.

I'd hoped when Dishonored 2 came out I'd have been able to do a similar thing with those wasps, you'd think it would work since wasp kills made a corpse that exploded into more wasps, but again, something about the way the game was coded prevented that working the way I envisioned.

I just get tickled by the mischief of it, those moments when you see even more people heading into the cloud and think "Oh man, here come more of them, I'm gonna get like 5 more guys here" and for some reason it just hits the exact part of my shriveled brain that's still functioning.

Of course I supposed if it worked in my idealized mental version the game would be terribly broken, but I'd still love to hear about any games that have similar spreading DOT mechanics.

Tales of Maj Eyal is a decent roguelike that has an entire class centered around spreading a plethora of infectious diseases to everything in sight. Like Grim Dawn's Occultist on steroids.

The corruptor class is very silly and fun. Apply one of 3 diseases whenever you hit. Make the diseases explode, spreading them to everything nearby. Infect somebody with a super-disease that gives them random other diseases and spreads them around. Turn all the diseases into horrible pustules that deal all DOT damage immediately.

E: oh yeah you can also infest people with worms and and cut yourself to spray everything with your (diseased) blood. And there are seperate skill trees for hexing and cursing dudes so you can stack ALL the debuffs.

Fruits of the sea fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Apr 4, 2023

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Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Scruffpuff posted:

Vanilla Grim Dawn, Occultist class. Still never seen anything quite like it in another game. It's a shame at the highest levels it's nowhere near the effect, but you can pull it off up to level 50 at least.

Thanks a bunch, I started GD but bounced off the intimidating constellation system &c., going in with the express intention of just loving around might help.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?
These are great suggestions, thanks everyone who answered, I have a whole bunch of new games to check out now, many of which I'd never heard of.

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

Ok working off my last request here's another similar request: Can you recommend any games where you run around and scavenge things, be it a zombie apocalypse or no?

Games I am aware of:
State of Decay 1+2
Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead
Project Zomboid
Dead State
Neo Scavenger

Vadun
Mar 9, 2011

I'm hungrier than a green snake in a sugar cane field.

ChrisBTY posted:

Ok working off my last request here's another similar request: Can you recommend any games where you run around and scavenge things, be it a zombie apocalypse or no?

Generation Zero

Cantorsdust
Aug 10, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.

ChrisBTY posted:

Ok working off my last request here's another similar request: Can you recommend any games where you run around and scavenge things, be it a zombie apocalypse or no?

Games I am aware of:
State of Decay 1+2
Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead
Project Zomboid
Dead State
Neo Scavenger

Hobo: Tough Life has scavenging as a main mechanic.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



ChrisBTY posted:

Ok working off my last request here's another similar request: Can you recommend any games where you run around and scavenge things, be it a zombie apocalypse or no?

Games I am aware of:
State of Decay 1+2
Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead
Project Zomboid
Dead State
Neo Scavenger

Zero Sievert

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

Zero Sievert is on my list but I'm waiting a bit for it. I'm not strictly against playing EA games but a few times I played a game so much in EA that I didn't want to play it anymore once 1.0 hit.

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
Yeah I'd wait on Zero Sievert. It's a good game already, but I think it still needs quite a bit of development.

unattended spaghetti
May 10, 2013
Apropos of this is State of Decay 2 a good time? I've been out of xbox land for over a decade but got one recently and was vaguely curious.

Oenis
Mar 15, 2012

ChrisBTY posted:

Ok working off my last request here's another similar request: Can you recommend any games where you run around and scavenge things, be it a zombie apocalypse or no?

Games I am aware of:
State of Decay 1+2
Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead
Project Zomboid
Dead State
Neo Scavenger

Check out Dysmantle

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

BurningBeard posted:

Apropos of this is State of Decay 2 a good time? I've been out of xbox land for over a decade but got one recently and was vaguely curious.

Hard to say. Something about it didn't click with me the way the first one did. It might be something about the game or it might have just been my mental state at the time.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

ChrisBTY posted:

Ok working off my last request here's another similar request: Can you recommend any games where you run around and scavenge things, be it a zombie apocalypse or no?

Games I am aware of:
State of Decay 1+2
Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead
Project Zomboid
Dead State
Neo Scavenger

Caves of Qud if you're into traditional roguelikes - Tinkering is one of the stongest skills in the game and it allows you to rifle through trash for scrap and disassemble things to build grenades, equipment, and mods for your existing gear.

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



ChrisBTY posted:

Ok working off my last request here's another similar request: Can you recommend any games where you run around and scavenge things, be it a zombie apocalypse or no?

Games I am aware of:
State of Decay 1+2
Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead
Project Zomboid
Dead State
Neo Scavenger

Fallout 4 has a lot more than that going on, but scavenging can be a big part of the game. In Fallout 3, your job at the start of the game is essentially "wasteland scrap metal merchant."

FishMcCool
Apr 9, 2021

lolcats are still funny
Fallen Rib
Hardspace Shipbreaker and Ship Graveyard Simulator are all about salvaging as a career.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

also Void Bastards, which is less about ship breaking and more about breaking into ships (many of which are still active) and stealing/scavenging poo poo. it's a roguelike where you die all the time and restart as new characters but keep all the poo poo you scavenged and assemble it into better weapons and gadgets. has great music.

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

Thanks everybody. I might wind up giving Dysmantle a shot. Maybe Zero Sievert once its further along.

Hibbloes
Jun 9, 2007
Yo

Hello, having just played and enjoyed most of Wildfrost, i thought i'd put in a request for card based deckbuilders i mightve missed or overlooked. Things i tend to love in them usually include a few different classes, upgrading cards so even your starter deck chaff can feel good to use, a bit of variety in the run so you might have a different first boss in different runs, and some metaprogression so that even failed runs feel like a piece of an unlock you are building towards.

Ones ive really enjoyed : monster train, arcanium, roguebook, griftlands, nowhere prophet, draft of darkness, across the obelisk

ones ive medium enjoyed : erannorth, indies lies, black book, vault of the void, power chord, midnight suns

ones ive tried but cant get into : slay the spire, meteorfall krumits tale, trials of fire

also ive heard good things about night of full moon, was wondering if someone who enjoyed it knew which dlcs might make it feel like the most full experience (not a start with more money or item ones, basically)

thanks for any and all recommendations!

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

nitro kid

Hibbloes
Jun 9, 2007
Yo


perfect, on sale too. thanks kindly.

grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.
I'm not seeing Card Quest on that list

Hibbloes
Jun 9, 2007
Yo

grate deceiver posted:

I'm not seeing Card Quest on that list

oh lol, actually i do have that (bundled with card survival i think?) but havent tried it and forgot it was in my library, ill try that out too. thanks!

Walh Hara
May 11, 2012

Hibbloes posted:

Hello, having just played and enjoyed most of Wildfrost, i thought i'd put in a request for card based deckbuilders i mightve missed or overlooked. Things i tend to love in them usually include a few different classes, upgrading cards so even your starter deck chaff can feel good to use, a bit of variety in the run so you might have a different first boss in different runs, and some metaprogression so that even failed runs feel like a piece of an unlock you are building towards.

Ones ive really enjoyed : monster train, arcanium, roguebook, griftlands, nowhere prophet, draft of darkness, across the obelisk

ones ive medium enjoyed : erannorth, indies lies, black book, vault of the void, power chord, midnight suns

ones ive tried but cant get into : slay the spire, meteorfall krumits tale, trials of fire

also ive heard good things about night of full moon, was wondering if someone who enjoyed it knew which dlcs might make it feel like the most full experience (not a start with more money or item ones, basically)

thanks for any and all recommendations!

Alina of the Arena

FrumpleOrz
Feb 12, 2014

Perhaps you have not been to the *Playground*.
The *Playground* is for Taalo and for Orz, but *Campers* can go.
It more fun than several.
You can go there for too much fun.
Is there such a thing as a grand strategy title that isn't heavy on combat? Something that focuses more on like a kingdom management aspect in medieval Europe instead of endless war?

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


FrumpleOrz posted:

Is there such a thing as a grand strategy title that isn't heavy on combat? Something that focuses more on like a kingdom management aspect in medieval Europe instead of endless war?

You can absolutely play Crusader Kings like that, but also, Victoria 3. That's obviously a bit later than medieval but it's all about industrial growth and economic management.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

FrumpleOrz posted:

Is there such a thing as a grand strategy title that isn't heavy on combat? Something that focuses more on like a kingdom management aspect in medieval Europe instead of endless war?

There's a lot of citybuilding/management games put there like Tropico or Anno or Ostriv or Syx or Dwarf Fortress, but nothing really zooms all the way out to map level without being focused on combat, since that's what medieval international relationships usually end up focused on.

Maybe it might scratch an itch to play a game that instead zooms way in, like Yes Your Grace or the Kingdom games.

Grey Face
Mar 31, 2017
Looking for a game with a focus on environmental storytelling and connecting pieces together to figure out a story. Some examples of what I'm looking for are Hypnospace Outlaw, Elden Ring with the item descriptions, Inscryption, and Tunic.

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

Grey Face posted:

Looking for a game with a focus on environmental storytelling and connecting pieces together to figure out a story. Some examples of what I'm looking for are Hypnospace Outlaw, Elden Ring with the item descriptions, Inscryption, and Tunic.

I've never played it but I think that's the entire gameplay loop for Return of the Obra Dinn. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

McCracAttack posted:

I've never played it but I think that's the entire gameplay loop for Return of the Obra Dinn. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

seconding this, it's an amazing game and a great example of what you are looking for

Outer Wilds is also a pretty interesting one, once you get past the kind of janky flight mechanics, you basically navigate around in a solar system caught in a time loop, and piece together what's going on from the structure of the environment

FishMcCool
Apr 9, 2021

lolcats are still funny
Fallen Rib

Grey Face posted:

Looking for a game with a focus on environmental storytelling and connecting pieces together to figure out a story. Some examples of what I'm looking for are Hypnospace Outlaw, Elden Ring with the item descriptions, Inscryption, and Tunic.

If you haven't played ye olde Myst, you might want to give it a spin. Modern remakes of it have you move in a full 3d environment instead of the pre-rendered slideshow, so it's a lot more approcheable, but it's all about puzzles and environmental storytelling. There is very little that the game actually tells you, and you could just play by solving puzzles to progress, but the worlds and puzzles tell the story by themselves should you care for it.

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

Grey Face posted:

Looking for a game with a focus on environmental storytelling and connecting pieces together to figure out a story. Some examples of what I'm looking for are Hypnospace Outlaw, Elden Ring with the item descriptions, Inscryption, and Tunic.

Gone Home is exactly this, it's the whole game.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Sandwich Anarchist posted:

Gone Home is exactly this, it's the whole game.

Ditto for the follow up, Tacoma.

Also if you like connecting pieces to figure out a story then Sam Barlow's games (Her Story, Telling Lies, Immortality)

Paper Tiger
Jun 17, 2007

🖨️🐯torn apart by idle hands

Earwicker posted:

Outer Wilds is also a pretty interesting one, once you get past the kind of janky flight mechanics, you basically navigate around in a solar system caught in a time loop, and piece together what's going on from the structure of the environment

One thing that Outer Wilds has that really sets it apart on this front is the rumor map, which lists everything you've found in a "photos and string" format. Having everything laid out thematically rather than spatially helps out a ton in figuring out what to explore next, as well as keep track of how everything you've found ties together into the overall picture.

If I remember right, Outer Wilds' rumor map is actually based on one of the game's design documents, and the developers ended up including in the game since it was so helpful in keeping track of everything.

I'm actually surprised more games don't have this. The only game I've heard has something similar is Pathologic 2 with its mind map.

kneelbeforezog
Nov 13, 2019
Im looking for a game like anno 1800 but with port royales trading

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!
I have a senior family member that I've turned into a PC gamer. I'm looking to find them something new since they've just about conquered Stardew Valley and Sun Haven.

Knowing nothing about the game, how is Minecraft Dungeons? Would it be good for a relative non-gamer? Ideally, the difficulty could be bumped way down so they wouldn't have to worry about dying 5 steps into each dungeon.

I gave them the original Minecraft but they got motion sickness. I'm hoping the camera view in Dungeons would be more tolerable.

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

Hughmoris posted:

I have a senior family member that I've turned into a PC gamer. I'm looking to find them something new since they've just about conquered Stardew Valley and Sun Haven.

Knowing nothing about the game, how is Minecraft Dungeons? Would it be good for a relative non-gamer? Ideally, the difficulty could be bumped way down so they wouldn't have to worry about dying 5 steps into each dungeon.

I gave them the original Minecraft but they got motion sickness. I'm hoping the camera view in Dungeons would be more tolerable.

Dungeons is baby's first ARPG, plays similar to Diablo. It does not involve building of any kind, it is just kill monsters go dungeon. It's pretty simple and relatively easy, but does require some manual dexterity and reaction time. Not sure how senior we're talking here.

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!

Sandwich Anarchist posted:

Dungeons is baby's first ARPG, plays similar to Diablo. It does not involve building of any kind, it is just kill monsters go dungeon. It's pretty simple and relatively easy, but does require some manual dexterity and reaction time. Not sure how senior we're talking here.

They are late 60s. I watched a few videos on YT and I think non-stop dungeons would be a bit more stressful than they'd find enjoyable. I'll keep looking. Thanks!

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

Hughmoris posted:

I have a senior family member that I've turned into a PC gamer. I'm looking to find them something new since they've just about conquered Stardew Valley and Sun Haven.

Knowing nothing about the game, how is Minecraft Dungeons? Would it be good for a relative non-gamer? Ideally, the difficulty could be bumped way down so they wouldn't have to worry about dying 5 steps into each dungeon.

I gave them the original Minecraft but they got motion sickness. I'm hoping the camera view in Dungeons would be more tolerable.

If you want more Stardew Valley, the next game to show them is My Time at Portia. You're basically playing as Robin in another town. Almost everything you get a quest to build shows up in town so there's a fantastic sense of progress.

Rune Factory 4 is also a very good game similar to Stardew Valley, but it is extremely anime.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

I'd like some suggestions for something inoffensive I can play for an extended period of time with a controller. Hurt my arm recently so I shouldn't be using the Mouse for a while.
I'm not sure really what I want to play but I know that I definitely don't like precision aiming (without heavy auto-aim at least), or inventory management with a controller.

Maybe one of those Ubisoft-likes? Which of the recent ones have the least annoying story and lightest on poo poo like tailing/escort missions?
Or maybe one of the farming games, like Stardew Valley, if there happens to be one that doesn't make you do a ton of inventory management, like Stardew Valley does.

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Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
So has Dead Island 2 finally dislodged the crown of 'greatest zombie-killing-parkour-gently caress-around-simulator' from the head of Dying Light 1 or does DL1 retain their position?

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