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*clears throat* None of the female characters in Persona 5 were particularly memorable or interesting. Then again most of the male characters weren't that interesting either.
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Apr 9, 2023 22:57
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Sapozhnik posted:*clears throat* The Phantom Thieves are a bland set of companions and P5 is only potentially saved by the far more interesting Confidants? Yes I agree. ApplesandOranges posted:
I think I disagree with every single placement on this poll. Rise is at the very bottom of the IT for me, Yu isn't a character so he isn't to be ranked, and I'd put Yukiko, Chie, and Yosuke at Top 3.
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Apr 9, 2023 23:04
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Sapozhnik posted:*clears throat* *Ahem* Wrong.
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Apr 9, 2023 23:05
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NikkolasKing posted:I think I disagree with every single placement on this poll. Rise is at the very bottom of the IT for me, Yu isn't a character so he isn't to be ranked, and I'd put Yukiko, Chie, and Yosuke at Top 3. We already knew you had bad opinions
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Apr 9, 2023 23:16
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Sapozhnik posted:*clears throat* Ann rules I’ll fight you
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Apr 9, 2023 23:18
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Also the Reddit thread on this poll mentioned a different Atlus poll which just ended https://m.weibo.cn/status/4888569262380710 
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Apr 10, 2023 00:31
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hosed up, why would you share that
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Apr 10, 2023 00:36
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the text is in chinese, maybe the poll was china-only
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Apr 10, 2023 00:37
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Any poll with the silent protag in first is bad
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Apr 10, 2023 00:42
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Any poll with the silent protag in first is bad It does feel a lot like the 'Obama awarding medal to Obama' meme.
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Apr 10, 2023 00:51
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Any poll with the silent protag in first is bad I liked how they handled the MC personalities on the P4/P4G and P5 anime though. I just wish they had actual VA other than summoning persona.
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Apr 10, 2023 00:51
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Joker has more personality than your typical silent protag imo. Still not sure I'd rank him first
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Apr 10, 2023 01:08
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Not sure if this is Japan only votes but from following manga popularity votes, Japan literally has the worst taste to this poo poo. The mute mcs over some of the best characters in jrpgs?
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Apr 10, 2023 01:18
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Design and being literally the first character you see probably helped boost the MCs to first. Like those manga popularity polls that have their titular character coming in first or real high most of the time. Most people just don't put much thought into who they vote for.
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Apr 10, 2023 01:25
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Electric Phantasm posted:Design and being literally the first character you see probably helped boost the MCs to first.  I do agree that Joker's character design and outfits are v good though.
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Apr 10, 2023 01:52
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Joker at least has a bit of personality, like that he's a placid dork in real life but a total showboat in the Metaverse. Also the scene where Ann tells him about Kamoshida at the diner and he's balling his fists under the table sells him quite a lot. Like he's still a silent protagonist, but there is some personality there beyond "kinda quiet, nice, good listener." P3 (male) and P4 protagonists suck, though.
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Apr 10, 2023 01:55
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Not saying you're wrong but I am saying that I have heard the exact same (or, at least, very similar) things said about the P4 protagonist. "You can tell by his dialogue options that he has a personality..."
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Apr 10, 2023 02:02
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Oh no, I agree with that; they all have implied personalities. It's just that those two are lovely dudes while Joker and the female P3 protagonist are cool.
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Apr 10, 2023 02:03
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I can't believe Ryuji is so low. I also hated Futaba but I'd agree that Makoto was one of my favorite teammates. Maybe it wasn't a choice but if it was I really liked Maruki.
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Apr 10, 2023 02:16
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The male P3 mc is great
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Apr 10, 2023 02:59
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Whether the P3 female protag is good or not is a philosophical question. If there is a possible world in which someone is a pedophile, can they be said to be a good person?
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Apr 10, 2023 03:36
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P2's protag takes the "silent protagonist" trope and actually gives plot/character reasons for it, so I think that's at least kinda cool. also I like how the P1 protag is characterized like "yeah everyone kinda thought you were just some guy but you've really pulled yourself together in a crisis" all without having to be the wild card.
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Apr 10, 2023 03:41
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goethe.cx posted:Whether the P3 female protag is good or not is a philosophical question. If there is a possible world in which someone is a pedophile, can they be said to be a good person? If we're gonna count everything a protagonist can be made to do, no one is a good person. You could theoretically make the P4 protagonist blow off any dungeon and spend all day fishing while Nanako is slowly dying, or, uh, make Joker cheat on his girlfriend with Ohya, but no rational person would do those, either.
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Apr 10, 2023 03:46
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With popularity polls there are always a significant number of people who just vote for "the main character" no matter who that is. It's usually odd if the main character isn't in either first or second place and usually second place only shows up when there's a Vegeta-level "this dude is absurdly popular" thing.
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Apr 10, 2023 03:57
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hot take, I like the p5 characters I know, it's hard to believe I"m the only one
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Apr 10, 2023 04:00
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I can see preferring the themes and development of the SEES crew, or the dynamic of the Investigation Team, but the Phantom Thieves have the best characters and it's not even close.
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Apr 10, 2023 04:06
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If we're counting Royal, Akechi should be number one and it shouldn't even be close.
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Apr 10, 2023 07:56
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I am slightly surprised Yoshizawa made it all the way to 3rd, but I guess looking at the P4 and P5 polls, 'girl who's younger than the protagonist' seems to score consistently well. Naoto and Rise got top 3, and Yoshizawa and Futaba only lost to Makoto and Joker. On the 'older girl' side, both Mitsuru and Makoto got 2nd, just... well, Haru. ApplesandOranges fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Apr 10, 2023 |
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Apr 10, 2023 08:09
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Neeksy posted:P2's protag takes the "silent protagonist" trope and actually gives plot/character reasons for it, so I think that's at least kinda cool. It's still a shame that Maya goes from IS to EP. Her personality in the former is fun.
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Dawgstar posted:It's still a shame that Maya goes from IS to EP. Her personality in the former is fun. She isn't even a good or fun or sassy silent protagonist in the sequel. They just make her look scared all the time while having no dialogue choices of note ever. One of several reasons why IS is the superior game. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Apr 10, 2023 |
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Apr 10, 2023 12:33
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How can people say that P4 MC doesnt have a persona? At most he's canonically a super duper cool big brother figure to Nanako and people love big brothers.
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Tired Moritz posted:How can people say that P4 MC doesnt have a persona? At most he's canonically a super duper cool big brother figure to Nanako and people love big brothers. Hell, the last page has people gushing about him just wordlessly walking out on one of the rank 10 confessions.
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Apr 10, 2023 15:40
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He even has consistent response (options). "You should calm down" and "you should leave them be.".
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ApplesandOranges posted:
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So that's Silent Protagonist in first, badass girl in second (yes I know there's a definite trans reading for Naoto; not the point here), and blankish slate trying to find themselves after being told who they should be by other people in third. I'd be stretching to say it's female character to identify with in fourth - but both Female Protagonist and the gamer girl (I'm aware Futaba's more than that) - Yukio might qualify? And should I compare the random acts of violence of Chie and Akechi? Also the starting party bro characters are almost last. And if the listings clarify anything for me it's how there's no one aggressively bad in P5R; maybe Morgana - but they are far more obnoxious in vanilla. Also P4G is protag first then all the girls before all the boys. P5R forgets Haru exists and has Akechi ahead of Ann, and P3P dislikes Fuuka and has Koromaru ahead of Yukari. This is all thirsty male nerds voting for waifus isn't it?
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Yosuke deserves to be dead last in every poll, gently caress him
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The P4G poll is honestly unsurprising. Yosuke and Teddie are very polarizing so only Kanji stood a chance of the non-MC guys, and even then I think the only one he could have beaten is Chie. Rise has her haters but she hits a popular demographic despite what people think, and it's not always thirst. Similarly, P3 is about as expected as you can get. The only surprise might be Koromaru going above Yukari, but Yukari is also divisive in her own right. If FeMC was around as long as MaleMC she would probably take 1st, but there are enough FES purists that I'm not surprised that he is the more popular lead. Fuuka is just not an engaging character, I'm afraid so her being so low is not a surprise. P5's probably the only curveball for me. I expected Yoshizawa to be lower, Akechi to be higher, maybe even Makoto lower. I think Ryuji doesn't deserve 9th, but considering general popularity and the roughness of the Okumura arc, I think realistically he could only have gone up above Morgana. He's not beating any of the girls, and I don't think he beats Yusuke. Haru is also not a surprising last place, she got done really dirty in vanilla. You're probably underestimating Akechi's popularity, he's super popular and I honestly expected him to be 3rd, if not 2nd. Like if this was a 'sex appeal' vote Ann would be in the top 3 easy. ApplesandOranges fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Apr 10, 2023 |
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neonchameleon posted:So that's Silent Protagonist in first, badass girl in second (yes I know there's a definite trans reading for Naoto; not the point here), and blankish slate trying to find themselves after being told who they should be by other people in third. Interesting observations, although I think a better summary of Aigis and Rise is "obviously madly in love with the PC and sort of your designated girlfriend." I'm sure that helped their votes. I know nothing of Kasumi or if she fits this pattern, though. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Apr 10, 2023 |
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I get why Makoto is second, but I have soured so hard on that character
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It's a shame since Ryuji is ranked lower than I expected since his entire SL was pretty good along with the dateless events being cute 
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