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Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?
Ramrod XTreme

Halibut Barn posted:

I've also been trying out Leviathan's Breath thanks to this thread and I think it's my preferred way of dealing with Unstops now, but oof, that catalyst is gonna take a while now that Wrathborn hunts are gone. (I think taking it into a Defiant Battleground made it progress a bit faster, though?)

Yesterday’s lost sector gave a lot of progress with the 4 champions in 5 minutes. I’m about half way on that catalyst. It’s definitely a slog but worth it in the end.

There is a cosmodrome lost sector that gives 4 or 5 heavy bricks at the end. Might be the best way to grind it out.

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haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Exodus Garden 2A. Also since Leviathan is void it can proc Bricks from Beyond so this is a good season to do it

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
But if I’m using Leviathan’s Breath that means I can’t use Wavesplitter.

Necrobama
Aug 4, 2006

by the sex ghost

Pirate Jet posted:

But if I’m using Leviathan’s Breath that means I can’t use Wish Ender.

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug
dumb question as i havent hit the power cap in ages: once I do will everything start dropping at 1810 or only powerful/pinnacles or only pinnacles?

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

fast cars loose anus posted:

dumb question as i havent hit the power cap in ages: once I do will everything start dropping at 1810 or only powerful/pinnacles or only pinnacles?

After the powerful cap, powerfuls will drop at whatever level you’re at so they don’t give any progress*. Only pinnacles can drop higher until you hit the hard cap





*sometimes they can be an improvement if one of your slots is badly lagging

haveblue fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Apr 8, 2023

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug
Oh sorry I worded that poorly. What I mean is, when I am fully pinnacle capped i.e. 1810, what will rando event gear, prime engrams, and powerfuls drop at? Obviously pinnacles will be 1810
e: I see you're saying powerfuls will be 1810 then if I read that right so that's good, I assume rando world stuff will then be 1800 and primes 1810

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008
Once you're 1810, rando gear will be 1800, and pinnacles and powerfuls will be 1810.

Halibut Barn
May 30, 2005

help
Took Leviathan's Breath into the Aphelion's Rest LLS today and was reasonably successful with it. The low ammo count on it doesn't give you much room to fool around, but the unstops generally went down in 2-3 hits and bricks dropped fairly frequently.

Had to figure out a strategy for the overload hobgoblins, though. I had the overload bow mod from the artifact, but trying to use Leviathan on them tended to trigger their instant retaliatory attack and had a good chance of killing me. I went double-bow and sniped them down with a plain old Raconteur instead (e: a void bow would probably be better, for when the adepts don't cooperate), which didn't trigger that. You might have to approach the first one from the right side so it can't hide out behind a rock to regen.

The end is a bit of a slog because of a gazillion thrall and psion spawns, and a handful of ravenous adepts and the last overload hobgob who love to hang out on the ledge and hide behind pillars and rocks when they get hurt. Grenades and supers cleared out the adepts, and you can then ignore the overload if you want, but you do need to kill it for the platinum rewards. The cache code guard goes down fast if you've got spare Leviathan ammo to unload in his face.

vvvv Well, guess that explains that!

Halibut Barn fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Apr 8, 2023

Necrobama
Aug 4, 2006

by the sex ghost

Halibut Barn posted:

I had the overload bow mod from the artifact, but trying to use Leviathan on them tended to trigger their instant retaliatory attack

Due to Bungie's spaghetti a la codice a given weapon can only ever stun one type of champion, and intrinsic weapon perks always come before seasonal artifact mods in the hierarchy of what does and doesn't get applied

uwaeve
Oct 21, 2010



focus this time so i don't have to keep telling you idiots what happened
Lipstick Apathy
If aphelions rest is still void surge or whatever (or probably even if not) le monarque is bananas in there. If for no other reason than you can just use the overloads and boss as giant poison sprinklers…super easy to hit crits and the trash tends to spawn at/around them. Hipfire for the doubling adept packs too.

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug
why the gently caress does it sometimes take an hour to fly to the tower since Lightfall

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


thats not actually new to lightfall, but yeah I think the game is just stuck trying to spin up a new instance or something cause you'll have like 5 people all pop in at the same time.

Halibut Barn
May 30, 2005

help

uwaeve posted:

If aphelions rest is still void surge or whatever (or probably even if not) le monarque is bananas in there. If for no other reason than you can just use the overloads and boss as giant poison sprinklers…super easy to hit crits and the trash tends to spawn at/around them. Hipfire for the doubling adept packs too.
Oh yeah, I just wanted to give Leviathan's Breath a try.

I also gave it a shot on Master, and the big problem there is that there are two overload hobgobs on that ledge now, and you have to kill at least one of them just to spawn the chest code guard. They love to hide behind the main pillar or teleport to behind the slab on the the upper ledge to regen, and if you move to the side to get a shot at one of them there, the second one will start furiously attacking. I'm not sure how much even Le Monarque can help here. I tried for a half-hour to get one of them to stay out in the open by sheer luck, and the closest I got was to knock one down to about half-health, and then quickly got a Leviathan shot in to drop it to near-dead, but then I had to dodge a barrage by the second one and by the time I got back into position, it was hiding and had regened to full, of course...

But then I found a spot on the left-hand side of one of the rocks where once they got to a certain spot, it put their AI into constant-freeze-attack mode but the rock blocked the shot, so I was able to plink away while it stood still. Finally killed one of them, the boss spawned, mopped it up without much trouble, took out an unstop that spawned on the ledge just for safety, and grabbed the chest while the remaining overload was hiding. One more Flawless Solo Mastery that I could only get by exploiting the AI...

ptroll
Sep 8, 2011

This game is perfect. Flawless. Incredible.


Was working through the Shadowkeep campaign to pick up an exotic and the portal had a little extra treat from the devs tacked on. Portal worked as advertised.

TopHatGenius
Oct 3, 2008

something feels
different

Hot Rope Guy
You wouldn't know it was bidirectional otherwise!

Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?
Ramrod XTreme
Someone in Discord streamed themselves being stuck going back and forth in the portal, bidirectional indeed.

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug

Oxyclean posted:

thats not actually new to lightfall, but yeah I think the game is just stuck trying to spin up a new instance or something cause you'll have like 5 people all pop in at the same time.

I don't recall it ever being this long but I guess it makes sense if they're having to gin up a new tower for people. Feel like they should work on that

Jetamo
Nov 8, 2012

alright.

alright, mate.
I actually wouldn't be surprised if it's tied to something ala Crucible matches not starting until everyone's loaded in - one person holding it up for everyone else, type of thing.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
Amused at claim 7 titles for Rank 11. I have only 5, 2 being Raid titles, Conqueror, ~something~ and the only Seasonal I have is splicer because it was a six month season. You'd think I'd get a little extra credit for completing Disciple-Slayer/Kingslayer over some seasonal/collectible driven title.

I've got to solo spire for the rank anyway which is all I'm missing for whatever Spire's title is, so that makes six and I'm getting RoN's title so thats 7.

It did make me curious as to where I'm at with the others and the only thing I'm missing for VoG's Fatebreaker is the Arc/Solar/Void runs so despite how much I despise VoG I might go back. Ya boy also still needs a Petra's zzz.

I'm short 5 exotic catalysts after doing a few hours of the shadowkeep farm. You need 25 and when I started and checked I had only 8 because if its not raid relevant I don't typically do the thing. It was not as bad as I thought but lord, I am glad I didn't Suro-Chi it all. At least you get to move around a bit for shadowkeep.

I will say the Guardian Ranks still feel awkwardly implemented and I think there are some rough edges around it, but it is making me engage with a whole bunch of content I do not care about so thats nice to do....once.

I want to hit the max the first time just in case they give you something cool like a title or an emblem (or a jacket) but after that I probably won't go out of my way to do anything to make number go up. I also happen to be in a position rn to be able to sink that kind of time so meh.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
I lolled when I finally got around to doing a master nightfall for 130K for rank 8 and when I unlocked that I immediately qualified for every rank 9 achievement except doing another master nightfall for 200K

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


the "tiering" of rank requirements sucks bad and really needs to stop being grouped past rank 6 or 7

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Ranks should have pinnacle rewards or curated rolls tied for every single one of them

Roctavian
Feb 23, 2011

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Ranks should have pinnacle rewards or curated rolls tied for every single one of them

Every other pinnacle source in the game just shuddered, aware of its own mortality, as the monkey's paw curls

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
What's a "Pinnacle"? Is this some sort of obsolete concept dredged up by an old Google search????

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
The Pinnacle was a professional wrestling stable formed in the professional wrestling promotion All Elite Wrestling (AEW). The group, which was formed in March 2021, consisted of FTR (Dax Harwood and Cash Wheeler), Shawn Spears, and Wardlow. The group's original incarnation was led by Maxwell Jacob Friedman (MJF) and also had Tully Blanchard as a manager.

Unless
Jul 24, 2005

I art



Killer week!

Went from 1770 to 1795, ground out all the weeklies that were PvE and matchmaking.

Finally got over changing out from my void hunter to strand so I could knock out some quests in Neomuna, and found a great joy in this season’s Iron Banner.

Le Monarque and Oathkeepers feel so good, I even got the LM catalyst and am 80% through.

D2 scratching all my itches this spring, devs did a great job.

SmallpoxJenkins
Jul 9, 2012


New Lake of Shadows is both dick AND balls.
No one asked for this poo poo bungo.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


It seemed okay. Shame it's not a speedy nightfall anymore, but it didn't feel particularly egregious to me. Was only doing it on heroic, whats the deal with the last boss? Like yeah you can't nuke him with a single nova bomb or whatever, but it didn't seem like there was that much going on, I shot some weird darkness things but it also didn't seem like his HP was gating that hard and it was nowhere as obnoxious as the last boss of Arms Dealer (or many other strikes.)

It doesn't feel like the pubbies I got were anything special either, so I don't think they were doing the heavy lifting.

Threshers in the wall section can gently caress off though.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


turning a strike into an escort mission surrounded by snipers kinda sucks but it's a lot better than it was tbh

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011

Kith posted:

turning a strike into an escort mission surrounded by snipers kinda sucks but it's a lot better than it was tbh

Maybe in like quality of production but as something to play I prefer the old one a million times more. It's not even about the speed it's just that they made every part of it annoying as hell.


e: As an aside, I really, really miss Leviathan. That raid was just a good time.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


i think the biggest sin of new lake is that it's an autoscroller. it is not possible to make it go faster for the first half, and that just doesn't loving feel good. it especially sucks that the final encounter is in a very sparsely covered area

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
lol wait did they turn Lake of Shadows into a Halo 2 level?

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


MJeff posted:

lol wait did they turn Lake of Shadows into a Halo 2 level?

you have to escort some Pyramid Shards from the Throne World Public Events through the street portions of the strike. y'know, the ones that are covered in raised platforms that are perfect places for snipers to live

Pretzel Rod Serling
Aug 6, 2008



what’s a good Master nightfall to score 200k on these days? I just happened to join at the final boss for a Master Lake of Shadows run and didn’t look a gift horse in the mouth when we finished at 125k

Cheap Trick
Jan 4, 2007

Oxyclean posted:

Threshers [...] can gently caress off though.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


I like the part where bungie was like "yeah, threshers were made/balanced for tank sections, and started creating problems when we started throwing them in high difficulty nightfalls and places with similar modifiers"

I feel like they need a crit spot if they're going to continue being used in foot-based combat because it feels like they take too much to bring down in a fair amount of scenarios, not to mention how many weapons are just ineffective against them either because they live on crits, aren't long range, etc. Like I was doing the nightfall with an AR, Waveframe GL and an LMG, so like, it just feels like I'm either tickling the thresher, or wasting my heavy.

Reiterpallasch
Nov 3, 2010



Fun Shoe
You can get 200k in pretty much any GM so that will be much easier starting next week. Glassway is an easy 200k on master though.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
You know how RNG alternatively fucks you and blesses you? I just pulled 3 red border imperial decrees in a row within the space of a few seconds. Two of them would have been "keepers" in the old pre-crafting days.

No I don't have the pattern unlocked yet lol

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Jetamo
Nov 8, 2012

alright.

alright, mate.
I hated getting Lake of Shadows in the playlist before because it meant doing my bounties would take longer simply due to how short it was. Heaven forbid I needed super kills.

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