[Biosphere Collapse] 420 days of blazin' it

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a strange fowl: Oct 27, 2022

ughhhh posted:

I work in the NYC parks department. There were a lot of Easter celebration picnickers this year. Alot of them decided to do egg hunts and in an act of kindness used bright streamers to mark where the eggs were using plastic streamers with plastic eggs filled with plastic confetti. I saw a bunch of birds trying to gobble them up this afternoon as the wind blew it around.

lol

celebrating the miracle of life

# ? Apr 11, 2023 04:25

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# ? May 25, 2024 02:41

LionArcher: Mar 29, 2010

I�m around my niece this week who�s graduating high school this year and all of her friends are super about what colleges their getting into (of course). and talking about what programs for good careers with my brother and sister talking about what are good for long term careers. I�m just over here LMAOing. these are major bubble kids with rich parents. they really don�t get or are paying attention about what�s happening in the world.

and who knows, maybe they�ll all make a lot of money for a few years post college.

after all, it�s not bad� yet.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 04:58

Just a Moron: Nov 11, 2021

Real hurthling! posted:

plastic eggs are smart for not having a rotten egg hiding behind the radiator or something after a kids egg hunt but nobody reuses them year to year so the yolks on us

My family reused the plastic eggs....

# ? Apr 11, 2023 05:12

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

ughhhh posted:

I work in the NYC parks department. There were a lot of Easter celebration picnickers this year. Alot of them decided to do egg hunts and in an act of kindness used bright streamers to mark where the eggs were using plastic streamers with plastic eggs filled with plastic confetti. I saw a bunch of birds trying to gobble them up this afternoon as the wind blew it around.

im a parks enjoyer and appreciater ty

# ? Apr 11, 2023 05:39

Chamale: Jul 11, 2010; I'm helping!

LionArcher posted:

I�m around my niece this week who�s graduating high school this year and all of her friends are super about what colleges their getting into (of course). and talking about what programs for good careers with my brother and sister talking about what are good for long term careers. I�m just over here LMAOing. these are major bubble kids with rich parents. they really don�t get or are paying attention about what�s happening in the world.

and who knows, maybe they�ll all make a lot of money for a few years post college.

after all, it�s not bad� yet.

Bubble kids with rich parents will still be eating three meals a day when the world population is four billion

# ? Apr 11, 2023 06:09

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

AceClown posted:

EL

NINO

Gravid Topiary posted:

the countdown to the spiciness of Hot Niño summer is almost at an end

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SFrPIPreHs0&t=

# ? Apr 11, 2023 06:14

bedpan: Apr 23, 2008

Chamale posted:

Bubble kids with rich parents will still be eating three meals a day when the world population is four billion

I'm pretty sure there is an elite conspiracy to get the world population down to 100 million or so.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 07:11

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

I'm on a holiday right now, turning 20kg of solid wood into carbon dioxide every night.

It's nice

# ? Apr 11, 2023 07:26

Chamale: Jul 11, 2010; I'm helping!

bedpan posted:

I'm pretty sure there is an elite conspiracy to get the world population down to 100 million or so.

I don't think that's the plan, it's just a natural side effect of the billionaire class requiring massive overconsumption to get even richer

# ? Apr 11, 2023 07:28

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

was watching tv tonight they had a show where teams compete to build ultra lux houses in some development on the lunar surface of the american west. each team put at least 6 fireplaces, firepits, fire everything. this one 4 address cul de sac could have like 50 separate fires going at one time not counting any kitchen cooking.

pretty funny. not really worth bringing up here cause theres probably an uncapped gas well over the backyard fence doing 10000x the ghg emissions but its just funny since you mention burning some wood just now how modern styling is to cram a fire feature into every space of the home and property.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 07:34

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

bedpan posted:

I'm pretty sure there is an elite conspiracy to get the world population down to 100 million or so.

this might be scary for you and i understand a lot of people like to cope over there being some grand plan, that the masters are driving the bus still. but reality is far more mundane and far more terrifying:

there is no plan. there is no one at the wheel. it's cybernetic capitalism self-perpetuating itself beyond control of mere individuals. the failsons are at the helm now.

there is no plan.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 07:57

Osv18: Jul 23, 2022; by vyelkin

depopulation is in the ruling class interest tho - but that's not at all equivalent to a conspiracy.

The plan is :tif:

# ? Apr 11, 2023 08:24

Salt n Reba McEntire: Nov 14, 2000; Kuparp.

There's no plan, but things that reduce or weaken the population might be, let's say, capitalised on as there would be less need for domesticated consumers when we're out of easy fuel to sell back to ourselves and privilege retains its fluffy insulating effects from consequence. Would it be particularly profitable to stop anything? What's the path of least resistance when your biome can't tolerate further excess?

Not doing anything to change circumstances that make it harder to survive is also a decision.

It seems that the grossly inflated population only exists because of this period of excess energy, like a microbial civilization hiding in the grease traps of a burger chain; slowly going out of business and ultimately facing the bulldozer.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 08:31

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

The less population, the less proletariat to prop up and enable the bourgeoisie. They might think they want it, but it's going to destroy their capacity to exploit others

# ? Apr 11, 2023 08:45

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Osv18 posted:

depopulation is in the ruling class interest tho - but that's not at all equivalent to a conspiracy.

The plan is

it actually isn't. historically population depletion is bad for the ruling class. they need peons to produce their food and make profits, and prevent them from getting too uppity. the more peons, the more the peons crab bucket each other and don't look upwards because they can be more easily pit against each other. when the amount of peons rapidly consolidates then that becomes bad for ruling elite.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 08:46

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Salt n Reba McEntire posted:

There's no plan, but things that reduce or weaken the population might be, let's say, capitalised on as there would be less need for domesticated consumers when we're out of easy fuel to sell back to ourselves and privilege retains its fluffy insulating effects from consequence. Would it be particularly profitable to stop anything? What's the path of least resistance when your biome can't tolerate further excess?

Not doing anything to change circumstances that make it harder to survive is also a decision.

It seems that the grossly inflated population only exists because of this period of excess energy, like a microbial civilization hiding in the grease traps of a burger chain; slowly going out of business and ultimately facing the bulldozer.

at that point on it's less about capitalizing and rather than preservation. and yes absolutely contemporary population boom is driven solely by exploiting hundreds of millions of years of immense solar energy conveniently tucked away. the exponential growth is energy-driven .but it doesn't matter because when that point arrives, natural energy collapse will do its thing.

the most profitable course of action is always "use as much energy as possible" in a cybernetic sense. so no, it's still more profitable to continue until continuation isn't physically possible. but again, the top 20 richest billionaires could get together in a smokey room and go 'wow this is bad, we better do something' and they would still be unable to because it is beyond even their own ability to consume less energy/make less profits.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 08:48

Mola Yam: Jun 18, 2004; Kali Ma Shakti de!

if you drag worker units back to the hospital they spawned from you can break them down and get 50% of their cost back as gold

# ? Apr 11, 2023 08:50

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Pretend I posted that dandelion comic where that ayn randists find out they need proles to actually do things for them to live the high life

# ? Apr 11, 2023 09:00

4d3d3d: Mar 17, 2017

Don't worry about the super-rich, they're already dreaming up ways to survive the apocalypse: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/23/tech-industry-wealth-futurism-transhumanism-singularity

quote:

The Event. That was their euphemism for the environmental collapse, social unrest, nuclear explosion, unstoppable virus, or Mr Robot hack that takes everything down.

This single question occupied us for the rest of the hour. They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from the angry mobs. But how would they pay the guards once money was worthless? What would stop the guards from choosing their own leader? The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival. Or maybe building robots to serve as guards and workers � if that technology could be developed in time.

That�s when it hit me: at least as far as these gentlemen were concerned, this was a talk about the future of technology. Taking their cue from Elon Musk colonizing Mars, Peter Thiel reversing the ageing process, or Sam Altman and Ray Kurzweil uploading their minds into supercomputers, they were preparing for a digital future that had a whole lot less to do with making the world a better place than it did with transcending the human condition altogether and insulating themselves from a very real and present danger of climate change, rising sea levels, mass migrations, global pandemics, nativist panic, and resource depletion. For them, the future of technology is really about just one thing: escape.

It is funny though, if you try to talk to anyone with kids (my sibling has 3) they just shut down hard if they aren't outright deniers and say "well it's not going to happen for a long time." I usually don't have the heart say "dumbass it's already happening" and just sort of wander off the topic. If she had kids the damage is already done anyway

# ? Apr 11, 2023 09:03

Renaissance Robot: Oct 10, 2010; Bite my furry metal ass

Stereotype posted:

https://twitter.com/JordanChariton/status/1645548218074136579?s=20

can't even clean up the previous industrial accidents without creating new industrial accidents

when I clicked on the thread today I thought the new title was about this

then boom! delicious freon surprise

# ? Apr 11, 2023 09:23

Stereotype: Apr 24, 2010; College Slice

Renaissance Robot posted:

when I clicked on the thread today I thought the new title was about this

then boom! delicious freon surprise

much like mass shootings, it is impossible to tell which catastrophe anyone is talking about because there are so many happening concurrently

# ? Apr 11, 2023 09:41

TehSaurus: Jun 12, 2006

4d3d3d posted:

Don't worry about the super-rich, they're already dreaming up ways to survive the apocalypse: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/23/tech-industry-wealth-futurism-transhumanism-singularity

It is funny though, if you try to talk to anyone with kids (my sibling has 3) they just shut down hard if they aren't outright deniers and say "well it's not going to happen for a long time." I usually don't have the heart say "dumbass it's already happening" and just sort of wander off the topic. If she had kids the damage is already done anyway

My group of college friends from 20 years ago has a fairly active email thread still somehow. I often wonder of I should be asking then what they think of the future. The hope is that they could also become radicalized by the existential risk to their children, but I also feel it is kind of cruel to confront them with it when there�s nothing any of them can do about it. Although someone just had a kid a month or so ago, and maybe that�s some suffering that could have been prevented?

Of course, no one would believe it is as bad as I say it is, so it really would be alienating a bunch of human connections for no actual gain and :effort:

# ? Apr 11, 2023 09:45

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

4d3d3d posted:

Don't worry about the super-rich, they're already dreaming up ways to survive the apocalypse: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/23/tech-industry-wealth-futurism-transhumanism-singularity

It is funny though, if you try to talk to anyone with kids (my sibling has 3) they just shut down hard if they aren't outright deniers and say "well it's not going to happen for a long time." I usually don't have the heart say "dumbass it's already happening" and just sort of wander off the topic. If she had kids the damage is already done anyway

I've got three kids, the youngest is 13, and I'm now full doomer. I can tell you it's hard reconciling the urge to do the traditional parenting pushing your kids towards their future when you don't believe it's worth anything

*crack* *ping*

:rubby:

# ? Apr 11, 2023 09:55

stringless: Dec 28, 2005; keyboard ⌨️ cowboy

starkebn posted:

The less population, the less proletariat to prop up and enable the bourgeoisie. They might think they want it, but it's going to destroy their capacity to exploit others

If (when) there is mass population collapse, the lower/middle upper class will be very surprised to learn they aren't welcome in the multi-billionaire survivor compounds because they believe themselves to be above doing manual labor.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 10:05

Osv18: Jul 23, 2022; by vyelkin

Salt n Reba McEntire posted:

There's no plan, but things that reduce or weaken the population might be, let's say, capitalised on

quote:

It seems that the grossly inflated population only exists because of this period of excess energy, like a microbial civilization hiding in the grease traps of a burger chain; slowly going out of business and ultimately facing the bulldozer.

a succinct and brutal dox. i feel seen.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 10:15

Gravid Topiary: Feb 16, 2012

looking out the kitchen window in june 2023 and it's all

outside

# ? Apr 11, 2023 11:16

BRJurgis: Aug 15, 2007; Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

Gravid Topiary posted:

looking out the kitchen window in june 2023 and it's all

outside

Excited for our rad future.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 12:19

stringless: Dec 28, 2005; keyboard ⌨️ cowboy

BRJurgis posted:

Excited for our radiated future.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 12:30

JAY ZERO SUM GAME: Oct 18, 2005; Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.

Real hurthling! posted:

im a parks enjoyer and appreciater ty

# ? Apr 11, 2023 16:37

Bob Ross Nuke Test: Jul 12, 2016; by Games Forum

The Rising Chorus of Renewable Energy Skeptics: The green techno-dream is so vastly destructive, they say, �we have to come up with a different plan.�

quote:

Over 150 years civilization has built a highly complicated industrial system based on cheap fossil fuels. The cheapness of those fuels created a robust banking system and an industrial agricultural system. It fuelled urbanization and globalization. Moreover cheap energy sustained the illusion that resources are inexhaustible.

Now that fossil fuel emissions have cooked the climate and decimated biological diversity, our fearless leaders want to replace that entire system with one that is more mineral-intensive and complex.

They want to do so at a moment when economic flows have slowed down due to the rising cost of extreme fossil fuels such as fracked shale gas and mined bitumen. The whole process of replacing a declining system with a more complex mining-based enterprise is now supposed to take place with a fragile banking system, dysfunctional democracies, broken supply chains, critical mineral shortages and hostile geopolitics.

Meanwhile climate events are destroying infrastructure and producing great waves of homeless migrants from failing states.

All of these incontestable realities highlight the fact that our dreams of a renewable powered boom are illusory. We need a different conversation than fossil fuelled business as usual or a Green New Deal.

More and more it does seem that involuntary degrowth for the masses is going to be the only item on the menu, because that is the narrative starting to appear in more and more mainstream publications rather than fringe blogs and podcasts.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 18:09

Nothus: Feb 22, 2001; Buglord

Bob Ross Nuke Test posted:

More and more it does seem that involuntary degrowth for the masses is going to be the only item on the menu, because that is the narrative starting to appear in more and more mainstream publications rather than fringe blogs and podcasts.

It's about the only way they can manage the transition while keeping the existing power structures intact.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 18:14

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Bob Ross Nuke Test posted:

The Rising Chorus of Renewable Energy Skeptics: The green techno-dream is so vastly destructive, they say, �we have to come up with a different plan.�

More and more it does seem that involuntary degrowth for the masses is going to be the only item on the menu, because that is the narrative starting to appear in more and more mainstream publications rather than fringe blogs and podcasts.

And the framing that renewables can�t work, versus our economic system doesn�t work, is a big tell.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 18:31

Hexigrammus: May 22, 2006; Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

starkebn posted:

I'm on a holiday right now, turning 20kg of solid wood into carbon dioxide every night.

It's nice

That's just part of carbon flux, the natural ebb and flow of carbon on the surface through biological and physical processes. As long as you grow 20kg of wood every morning it's fine.

# ? Apr 11, 2023 18:50

The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

starkebn posted:

I'm on a holiday right now, turning 20kg of solid wood into carbon dioxide every night.

It's nice

I think you'd need to burn about 20 times as much wood to equal the emissions of a single 90 minute vacation flight from LA to Vegas so you better step it up

Have you tried setting an entire tree on fire

# ? Apr 11, 2023 19:06

goochtit: Nov 2, 2021

Bob Ross Nuke Test posted:

The Rising Chorus of Renewable Energy Skeptics: The green techno-dream is so vastly destructive, they say, �we have to come up with a different plan.�

More and more it does seem that involuntary degrowth for the masses is going to be the only item on the menu, because that is the narrative starting to appear in more and more mainstream publications rather than fringe blogs and podcasts.

lol we absolutely blew past peak oil at some point and are running out of tricks to disguise it

# ? Apr 11, 2023 19:53

Wakko: Jun 9, 2002; Faboo!

Bob Ross Nuke Test posted:

The Rising Chorus of Renewable Energy Skeptics: The green techno-dream is so vastly destructive, they say, ‘we have to come up with a different plan.’

More and more it does seem that involuntary degrowth for the masses is going to be the only item on the menu, because that is the narrative starting to appear in more and more mainstream publications rather than fringe blogs and podcasts.

dont worry we'll get new leaders with bold visions for restoring a future based on past glories and exciting fashion real soon

# ? Apr 11, 2023 19:57

Koirhor: Jan 14, 2008; by Fluffdaddy

colorado river cuts coming! any day now

# ? Apr 11, 2023 19:59

Tekne: Feb 15, 2012; It's-a me, motherfucker

Stereotype posted:

much like mass shootings, it is impossible to tell which catastrophe anyone is talking about because there are so many happening concurrently

capitalism has spawned a calamity hydra that can't be controlled but they won't stop feeding it

# ? Apr 11, 2023 20:08

AceClown: Sep 11, 2005

https://twitter.com/swolecialism/status/1645783474828189696?s=20

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# ? May 25, 2024 02:41

Mr. Sharps: Jul 30, 2006; The only true law is that which leads to freedom. There is no other.

weve got lots of plants here

# ? Apr 11, 2023 20:47

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