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big scary monsters posted:Watch out for little, stout men with funny accents. *Looks at this post, looks at username* You are HP Lovecraft and I claim my five pounds you immortal piece of poo poo
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If you can forge documents and successfully pretend to be Belgian you don't have to worry about the lovely British state pension.
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Apr 11, 2023 16:17
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You can buy NI years to build up your state pension, although it requires you to have the money at hand. I think it's £800 for each full year - but you might have years that have partial payments if you did some work or signed on for a period. It's worth looking into this asap because you can temporarily buy back as far as 2006. Martin Lewis had an article on it the other week: https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/voluntary-national-insurance-contributions/ It only takes a couple of minutes to check.
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Apr 11, 2023 16:32
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OwlFancier posted:You need 10 years of NI contributions to get the state pension and 35 years to get the full one. When i took voluntary redundancy i asked the HMRC how much more i needed to do for my pension, they said i'd done 38 years so no more NI was required for my pension.  I had dreaded looking for another job so was very happy at the outcome, think i have 8 years worth of workplace pension as well... much use that'll be, the rest is in Premium Bonds & ISAs. Thank the gods i'm frugal nowadays.
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Apr 11, 2023 16:45
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Almost no one has that kind of big money in that infogram, as noted the figures are bigger than the average working income. Yeah, for an annual pension income of, say, £30k, you'd need £600k - £700k to put into an annuity and how many people have the opportunity to save that sort of dosh up over the course of a working life? For the majority of people, any private pension they have will only ever be a supplement to the state pension. The idea that the average person will be able to build up that sort of sum, as well as dealing with rent, mortgages, household bills, children and student loan repayments is such utter bullshit, and yet the whole conversation around pensions is always couched in these terms: "Hmm, why aren't young people ramping up their pension contributions, they just mustn't realise how important it is!"
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Apr 11, 2023 16:50
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I'm investing it all in youtooz made out of avocado.
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Apr 11, 2023 16:52
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Barrel Cactaur posted:Russia and China lie about their internal economies a lot so massive grain of salt. Everyone lies about this poo poo, bit weird to go orientalist on this Don't make me look up the graph that has all the "predictions" from the government that are never right
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Apr 11, 2023 16:52
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2022 is gonna be our year baybee!
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Apr 11, 2023 16:56
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Fellas, is it orientalist to single out massive dictatorships
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Apr 11, 2023 16:57
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Defined benefit is a little better but I'm terrified of getting too sick to work. last time I checked the civil service pension scheme pays 2.32% CARE, so if you are at average earnings (like 30k let's say) all of your career on average (salary curves don't work like this but sure) you'd need to be at that level for 45 years to hit £30k annual pension. Which, like - OK, 45 years of employment before retiring sounds doable, but I'm 33 and I've managed 7, and the next period of illness might be the one that stops me worrying forever. At which point that "huge civil service pension" that sounded so good when I told myself it was worth spending sty much money living in London, turns out to be gently caress all
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Apr 11, 2023 16:58
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Dabir posted:Fellas, is it orientalist to single out massive dictatorships China and Russia are not dictatorships.
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Apr 11, 2023 17:01
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Guavanaut posted:2022 is gonna be our year baybee! You can see the precise moment where the economy went  and diverged from sanity. 
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Apr 11, 2023 17:01
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Cookie Cutter posted:China and Russia are not dictatorships. So you're saying neither country is ruled over by a leader with total power? Lol OK then.
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Apr 11, 2023 17:03
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The Perfect Element posted:So you're saying neither country is ruled over by a leader with total power? Lol OK then. Yes, that's right  Russia is no more a dictatorship than the UK. China has a very large and complex party structure of which Xi is the chairman but does not by any means exercise total control. It's not difficult to understand really
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Apr 11, 2023 17:06
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sinky posted:Economy doing worse than the one sanctioned by everyone on earth Still, just to be safe, better make "tough on nonces" the central issue of the campaign.
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Apr 11, 2023 17:07
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Cookie Cutter posted:Yes, that's right Lol
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Apr 11, 2023 17:08
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Please try to insulate yourselves against commonly received falsehoods about countries that our own fascist government wants us to believe are evil. To fall into that trap is the height of western chauvinism and the reason why actual left wing and communist countries consider western leftists to be a complete joke.
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Apr 11, 2023 17:09
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Cookie Cutter posted:Yes, that's right i do not think that russia is very comparable to the uk in terms of being a democracy, the uk democracy might be very bad and susceptible to the same structural issues with media and monetary influence as many countries but it has not had the same guy running it for the past quarter century.
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Apr 11, 2023 17:12
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Cookie Cutter posted:Please try to insulate yourselves against commonly received falsehoods about countries that our own fascist government wants us to believe are evil. To fall into that trap is the height of western chauvinism and the reason why actual left wing and communist countries consider western leftists to be a complete joke. I also do not think there are any countries out there that I would call "actually communist"
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Apr 11, 2023 17:14
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Russia is real poo poo and about as communist as the pre-war Hitler regime. Which is to say it isn't, even if there are some wondering about in the country.
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Apr 11, 2023 17:16
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On the topic of jury duty I got a citation last month for tomorrow and it told me to phone a number after 5pm today to see if I'd be needed tomorrow or not. Apparently I'm not needed but they want me to phone tomorrow again after 5pm to see if I'm needed on Thursday. How long can they keep stringing you along for like that?
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Apr 11, 2023 17:16
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OwlFancier posted:i do not think that russia is very comparable to the uk in terms of being a democracy, the uk democracy might be very bad and susceptible to the same structural issues with media and monetary influence as many countries but it has not had the same guy running it for the past quarter century. *Coughs loudly* It may not be the same party or the same leader but the same monied interests have been running the uk since thatcher. Why do you think corbyn, the only one to suggest maybe we shouldn't just pay billionaires for being rich and should improve society somewhat, got shitcanned so roundly.
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Apr 11, 2023 17:17
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Starmer MUST assassinate Greta Thunberg like a rogue llama if he wants to win!
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Apr 11, 2023 17:20
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Shyrka posted:On the topic of jury duty I got a citation last month for tomorrow and it told me to phone a number after 5pm today to see if I'd be needed tomorrow or not. Apparently I'm not needed but they want me to phone tomorrow again after 5pm to see if I'm needed on Thursday. How long can they keep stringing you along for like that? In England its two weeks but doesn't work quite how you seem to be describing it so I guess you might be in Scotland where I dunno.
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Apr 11, 2023 17:20
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China is legitimately significantly better than Russia even if it does some lovely authoritarian things. If you have to stan for some "vilified" regime then at least pick one that's not nakedly fash.
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Apr 11, 2023 17:20
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Shyrka posted:On the topic of jury duty I got a citation last month for tomorrow and it told me to phone a number after 5pm today to see if I'd be needed tomorrow or not. Apparently I'm not needed but they want me to phone tomorrow again after 5pm to see if I'm needed on Thursday. How long can they keep stringing you along for like that? I think it's five days (in Scotland anyway). Even if you do get called in, chances are you won't be selected. I did jury service a few years back, there were 200 other people in the room and they pulled names out of the hat for who would actually be a juror.
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Apr 11, 2023 17:21
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Drone_Fragger posted:*Coughs loudly* It may not be the same party or the same leader but the same monied interests have been running the uk since thatcher. As I said, it has the same problem a lot of democracies have, which is that democracy is inherently incompatible with capitalism and the greater the influence of one the weaker the other. However, I think this remains distinct from simply the same actual people running the country. A democracy can exist but be smothered by systemic pressures, and I think this is different from a situation where power is purely oligarchic and there is really no question of popular control over it absent a revolution. It indicates a different method of societal organization.
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Apr 11, 2023 17:22
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"there are lots of people to the left of tony blair and to be electable starmer must alienate them"
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Private Speech posted:China is legitimately significantly better than Russia even if it does some lovely authoritarian things. This is also what "Clearer and more traditional line on the culture wars" means.
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Apr 11, 2023 17:37
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OwlFancier posted:"there are lots of people to the left of tony blair and to be electable starmer must alienate them" These people are aware that more people didn't vote at all than voted Tory at the last election, right? Labour and the media cretins are fascinated by a tiny fraction of the population. For Labour, it's because the 'polling experts' they employ can set up one office and spend the bare minimum necessary to focus on about 5 constituencies worth of
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team corbyn: engage young people and non-voters by offering a better vision for the country where they have a meaningful stake team starmer: appeal to tory/ukip/britain first voting pub landlords whose concern is being allowed to hang up "gollywogs" on their premises
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I really just think starmer like most of the UK political and media class are stuck in the 90's and most of their behaviour is a coping mechanism for dealing with that.
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Apr 11, 2023 17:42
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Comparing democracy in the UK and Russia does make a lot of sense when you remember the Tories are very obviously on the kremlin payroll institutionally even if they are now trying to walk it back in light of the invasion of Ukraine.
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OwlFancier posted:I really just think starmer like most of the UK political and media class are stuck in the 90's and most of their behaviour is a coping mechanism for dealing with that. Well obviously, that's when history ended, because a bunch of alcoholic paedophiles took over the corpse of the Soviet Union.
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Apr 11, 2023 17:45
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Just because your own government sucks poo poo, does not mean other governments cannot somehow suck poo poo even harder. I'm not sure most people would define 'democratically elected (by 2980 people at the top of the only party that's allowed)' democratic, in the traditional sense. China bad, Russia bad, UK bad. All bad.
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The UK has a hereditary monarch from whom all legislative and executive power derives. The sovereign personally is entirely above the law. The government is not legitimate without the assent of the monarch, and the monarch holds the power to appoint and remove ministers and to dissolve the government. The monarch controls the military, and most members of the military swear an oath of service to him personally. There is some degree of influence from the voting public in choosing the members of the lower house of government - the upper house being an unelected mix of hereditary positions, royal appointees and senior representatives of the state religion. It's a fairly generous use of the word "democracy" to describe the UK's form of government imo.
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Do you want a clearer and more traditional line of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b7DgOeMnW4
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Nominally, in practice I do not think the military would answer to the monarch over the government, and in fact this has been proven historically.
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Cookie Cutter posted:Please try to insulate yourselves against commonly received falsehoods about countries that our own fascist government wants us to believe are evil. To fall into that trap is the height of western chauvinism and the reason why actual left wing and communist countries consider western leftists to be a complete joke. If anyone here still thinks 'tankie' is a meaningless word, this is one
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