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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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BULBASAUR posted:loling at the idea that we hit peak tank with the T-60 - T-70 There's really not much further you can go tbh Bigger gun comes with packaging and ammo handing problems More speed is all incremental improvement but to get a big jump you again come up against packaging and logistical issues Armour can be upgraded Optics and sensors can be upgraded What else is there? We hit peak rifle with the m16 about the same time Slavvy has issued a correction as of 21:43 on Apr 11, 2023 |
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Apr 11, 2023 21:40
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Z the IVth posted:Does the industrial capacity to build the vessels for a Normandy scale landing still exist in the US? I doubt the American government could even put into place the price controls necessary for such large scale production. Seriously, could you imagine corporate cronies in the Senate capping the price of steel? And that's the easiest part!
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Apr 11, 2023 21:42
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Z the IVth posted:Does the industrial capacity to build the vessels for a Normandy scale landing still exist in the US? Yes, if you made sacrifices on modern technology to mass produce serviceable hulls with basic equipment, but you'd have to conscript every shipyard in the US and implement massive central planning. Liberal 'free' markets could never meet the demands of an industrial war because markets are terrible at efficient allocation of scarce resources. The main issue is that under no circumstances would the current US government conscript shipyards or implement massive central planning
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Apr 11, 2023 21:42
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Slavvy posted:What else is there? We hit peak rifle with the AK about the same time fixed this for you
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Apr 11, 2023 21:45
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lol at the idea of the m16 being peak rifle maybe it is, but lol none the less edit: BULBASAUR posted:fixed this for you yah, ignoring functionality differences, manufacturing differences makes the AK peak rifle over the ARXX platforms imho
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Apr 11, 2023 21:50
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euphronius posted:how is American doughboy getting to China On tactical rascals.
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Apr 11, 2023 22:05
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Z the IVth posted:Does the industrial capacity to build the vessels for a Normandy scale landing still exist in the US? For the Normandy landing the opposition was just starting to experiment with bottle rockets though.
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Apr 11, 2023 22:05
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There is a point to be made that at some point you just have a mature design. You can only add so much more weight to a tank, a power plant can only be so powerful while reliable, and the tank can only be so large. Obviously, there are larger and heavier tanks than the T-72, but they also come with compromises. The big things that have changed have been mostly ERA (which not everyone uses), ammo, and sights, but all of that swapped or added on later. Drones, long-range missiles, and social media seem to have seem more growth recently as weapon systems.
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Apr 11, 2023 22:05
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BULBASAUR posted:loling at the idea that we hit peak tank with the T-60 - T-70 Welcome to the world of ever more expensive boondoggles, wunderwaffes and graft.
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Apr 11, 2023 22:07
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Kind of hard to make a tank better at something because you can use it differently in different situations, and making it better at one thing will sacrifice some other quality.
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Apr 11, 2023 22:08
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Delta-Wye posted:lol at the idea of the m16 being peak rifle I think the manufacturing difference is smaller than you'd think especially if you're talking about using a polymer lower for the AR which massively cuts down machining time
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Apr 11, 2023 22:09
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I doubt the American government could even put into place the price controls necessary for such large scale production. Seriously, could you imagine corporate cronies in the Senate capping the price of steel? Ff made a good post about this but I refuse to look through 500 pages of mud posts to find it.
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Apr 11, 2023 22:09
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euphronius posted:how is American doughboy getting to China https://www.expedia.com/lp/flights/...uBoCqKgQAvD_BwE
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Apr 11, 2023 22:12
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Ardennes posted:There is a point to be made that at some point you just have a mature design. You can only add so much more weight to a tank, a power plant can only be so powerful while reliable, and the tank can only be so large. Obviously, there are larger and heavier tanks than the T-72, but they also come with compromises. The big things that have changed have been mostly ERA (which not everyone uses), ammo, and sights, but all of that swapped or added on later. drones and missiles are disposable and there's currently not a way to make a tank that does exactly one mission before disintegrating into useless dust
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Apr 11, 2023 22:12
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euphronius posted:the USA would have to conscript probably 1/3rd of the people (not just men) age 18-44 and ship them to Asia they could recruit from latin america, like the saudis did from sudan lower wages and lower political cost from casualties
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Apr 11, 2023 22:13
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Slavvy posted:I think the manufacturing difference is smaller than you'd think especially if you're talking about using a polymer lower for the AR which massively cuts down machining time AK platform rifles preform far better in arctic/very cold weather conditions as well which isn't unimportant. redneck nazgul posted:drones and missiles are disposable and there's currently not a way to make a tank that does exactly one mission before disintegrating into useless dust Why would that be important? If it has combat utility, it has a purpose. Also, yeah obviously there are drones that can be re-used out there. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 22:17 on Apr 11, 2023 |
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Apr 11, 2023 22:13
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They could easily improve upon modern tanks by giving them a big wedge on the front to flip over other tanks
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Apr 11, 2023 22:17
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https://twitter.com/business/status/1645811229246488576
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Apr 11, 2023 22:19
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Chillgamesh posted:They could easily improve upon modern tanks by giving them a big wedge on the front to flip over other tanks Battlebots is the proving ground for new tank ideas
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Apr 11, 2023 22:20
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Chillgamesh posted:They could easily improve upon modern tanks by giving them a big wedge on the front to flip over other tanks the weaker top armor on a tank SHOULD drive battlefield innovation in the direction of giant hammers for close up tank-on-tank combat  pic rel: 
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Apr 11, 2023 22:20
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BULBASAUR posted:loling at the idea that we hit peak tank with the T-60 - T-70 agreed, everybody knows that we hit peak tank with the t-34/85
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Apr 11, 2023 22:23
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congratulations to ukrainian oligarchs upgrading to billionaires
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Apr 11, 2023 22:23
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ok the thread title got me to click lol It's been awhile since I've paid attention to what's happening. Having read a few pages it looks like Russia is going to win this in the end, assuming the U.S. doesn't flip the table in a fit of nuclear rage. My impression early in the war was that innocent Ukrainians are hosed regardless of who wins, especially non-white Ukrainians because both Russia and the neo Nazis of Ukraine are trying to kill them, and no country in the West wants non-white refugees. Is that even halfway right?
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Apr 11, 2023 22:38
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U-DO Burger posted:ok the thread title got me to click lol idk
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Apr 11, 2023 22:41
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U-DO Burger posted:ok the thread title got me to click lol Non-white for the Ukrainians means anyone who isn't a catholic fascist I don't think the Russian invasion has any strong feelings about non-whiteness one way or another
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Apr 11, 2023 22:43
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Slavvy posted:Non-white for the Ukrainians means anyone who isn't a catholic fascist Russian invaders? Russian forces are generally multi-ethnic, so I don't think it is an issue in the same way. Also, the Russians are not following the same proscribed ideology as a lot of Ukrainian forces are. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 23:03 on Apr 11, 2023 |
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Apr 11, 2023 22:52
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Non-white Ukrainians are mostly fodder for social media because of how unusual it is.
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Apr 11, 2023 22:55
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Ardennes posted:Russian invaders? Are seriously throwing stones out of your glass palace
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Apr 11, 2023 22:57
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Russia treats ethnic minorities in largely the same way America does, the countries are nearly identical in most ways outside of economic resources. They're large neoliberal states with nukes and global political interests. Minorities will likely experience socioeconomic disparities but not violent extermination. Ukraine is a white nationalist/fascist state that has been engaged in ethnic cleansing (and extermination of political dissidents) for years and has been hugely ramping up efforts after the invasion began and will likely continue to do so to extreme measures. e: worth noting that the concept of " whiteness" is not necessarily the primary factor in what makes someone an ethnic minority in that part of the world, as it is in America and much of the west Mike Fallopian has issued a correction as of 23:03 on Apr 11, 2023 |
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Apr 11, 2023 22:59
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Slavvy posted:Are seriously throwing stones out of your glass palace oh come on lighten up Mike Fallopian posted:Russia treats ethnic minorities in largely the same way America does, the countries are nearly identical in most ways outside of economic resources. They're large neoliberal states with nukes and global political interests. Minorities will likely experience socioeconomic disparities but not violent extermination. I would say probably disparities are going to more geographical to a degree in Russia than the US. There are some similarities but some of it is just that economic development doesn't follow racial lines in Russia the same way as the US. Not that racism doesn't exist, but it never was formalized with Jim Crow/redlining/reservations etc in the same way. Ukraine is weird state. You obviously have far-right/neo-nazi elements infiltrating much of its armed forces and government, but I don't know if that actually fully extends to society. Nevertheless, hatred seems to be forced from a very clear from the top. I would say the foreigners who have joined up probably have had mostly a negative influence in that regard. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 23:17 on Apr 11, 2023 |
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Apr 11, 2023 23:04
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Mike Fallopian posted:
nuh uh
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Apr 11, 2023 23:04
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paul_soccer12 posted:nuh uh ya huh
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Apr 11, 2023 23:05
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drat......
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Apr 11, 2023 23:12
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:how much evidence is there that the tens of thousands of troops being trained for the big counteroffensive even exist? isn't building up layers of fortifications what a country is supposed to do if they want to turn the tables on a potential advance? the attacker is allowed to bog down in trying to punch through progressively sturdier defensive works while the defender, with shorter logistical distances, can either delay and slip away or delay and call in greater reinforcements. were the Russians not supposed to dig and entrench? My prediction is that the Russians are going to move the line forward eventually. They can't stop now, not unless they want to deal with daily shelling as in the before the war period.
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Apr 11, 2023 23:16
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bedpan posted:isn't building up layers of fortifications what a country is supposed to do if they want to turn the tables on a potential advance? the attacker is allowed to bog down in trying to punch through progressively sturdier defensive works while the defender, with shorter logistical distances, can either delay and slip away or delay and call in greater reinforcements. They are suppose to always be on the advance and not stopping because...of...reasons Anyway, the Germans during the First World War largely have a more developed trench network because they had already taken significant territory and could afford to be more defensive. The problem came later when they simply did not have the reserves needed to accomplish another major advance. In the case of Ukraine, the Russians for the most part can sit behind their fortifications because they have a massive advantage in artillery, and instead can slowly attack a couple critical weakness in Ukraines defenses due to the fact the Ukrainians really can't do anything in response. The Ukrainians can't even really accomplished a "back-handed" counter-attack because the Russians have both an advantage in men and munitions while their flanks are secure. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 23:28 on Apr 11, 2023 |
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Apr 11, 2023 23:20
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https://twitter.com/Spriter99880/status/1645891646234435584 so what planes have now to go around the whole of russia to get to east asia?
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Apr 11, 2023 23:22
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Honest Thief posted:so what planes have now to go around the whole of russia to get to east asia? this is 100% because euro airlines are getting obliterated because they have to fly around lmao
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Apr 11, 2023 23:28
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Honest Thief posted:so what planes have now to go around the whole of russia to get to east asia? the new push will be endless  over everyone's airlines not
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Apr 11, 2023 23:29
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so does everyone have to change at a hub like dubai or istanbul now or what
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Apr 11, 2023 23:31
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Jel Shaker posted:so does everyone have to change at a hub like dubai or istanbul now or what that, or the flights just take 4-6 hours longer, op
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