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quote:Airman Teixeira’s mother, Dawn, speaking outside her home in Massachusetts on Thursday, confirmed that her son was a member of the Air National Guard and said he had recently been working overnight shifts at a base on Cape Cod. In the last few days, he had changed his phone number, she said. From the NYT reporting. It's a 21 year old trying to impress a bunch of teenagers on a gaming server. It's the basic MMORPG guild leader dynamic.
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Apr 13, 2023 17:27
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"Members of Thug Shaker Central who spoke to The Times said ..." So many good sentences coming out of this thing.
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Apr 13, 2023 17:33
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This whole leak story just keeps getting stupider and stupider. I'm a genuine loss for words.
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Apr 13, 2023 17:35
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I know, it rules.
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Apr 13, 2023 17:36
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:This whole leak story just keeps getting stupider and stupider. I'm a genuine loss for words. https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1646545031493308421 Yep!
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Apr 13, 2023 17:38
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https://twitter.com/bellingcat/status/1646546839045394434?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet Welcome to your 15 minutes of fame Jack. E: f,b by Brown Moses is cheating
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Apr 13, 2023 17:39
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Boy, thay escalated quickly.
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Apr 13, 2023 17:44
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At this rate no one will even ask about the current title, so I'll just post. https://twitter.com/WarThunder/status/1645727948949934082 fool of sound posted:To briefly summarize the leaker appeared to be some right wing 20something guy who was leaking the info in his private discord server for... clout with high schooler military nerds. This is so incredibly stupid that I'm feeling physical cringe. Electric Wrigglies posted:a (S) radio operator What's an “(S) radio”?
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Apr 13, 2023 17:46
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Maybe we should stop letting 21 year old National Guard have access to sensitive documents.
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Apr 13, 2023 17:46
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Why the gently caress did someone from a state national guard have a security clearance for information more sensitive than where the national parks are located?
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Apr 13, 2023 17:47
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He's getting arrested: https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1646553115464695812
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Apr 13, 2023 17:48
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Brown Moses posted:He's getting arrested: This guy is about to have a really, really bad time and he totally deserves it. Military justice does not look kindly on his sort.
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Apr 13, 2023 18:00
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lol at anyone in New England identifying as "Christian" beyond "my family is Catholic".
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Apr 13, 2023 18:00
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:This guy is about to have a really, really bad time and he totally deserves it. Military justice does not look kindly on his sort. Yeah but a 21 year old Airman distributing top-secret documents for online clout isn’t the interesting part now, it’s what happens to the people who gave him access or set up the systems that allow him access. Where does gross incompetence cross over into criminal negligence for the officers, and will there be actual accountability. Vietnom nom nom fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Apr 13, 2023 |
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Apr 13, 2023 18:06
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Why the gently caress did someone from a state national guard have a security clearance for information more sensitive than where the national parks are located? So first, he might NOT of had clearance and some higher ranking officer left stuff hanging around the base. Or where he works on the base requires him to have clearance. Joint Base Cape Cod houses an intelligence wing and some other radar things too. Also the American military and national guard are intertwined in lots of ways. Essentially, they are the logistics part of the armed forces. If United States ever went Gulf War 3, lots of national guardsmen would be sent over.
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Apr 13, 2023 18:09
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Unless you're Trump, why would you even risk your life with US intelligence documents? Idiotic and punishment is deserved.
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Apr 13, 2023 18:11
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Vietnom nom nom posted:Yeah but a 21 year old Airman distributing top-secret documents for online clout isn’t the interesting part now, it’s what happens to the people who gave him access or set up the systems that allow him access. Where does gross incompetence cross over into criminal negligence for the officers, and will there be actual accountability. I don't know how accurate it is but twitter is full of people saying this is standard practice because nobody senior does analysis. https://twitter.com/Rebel44CZ/status/1646548310335815681 Doesn't sound like negligence, it sounds like a huge systemic issue
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Apr 13, 2023 18:29
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Brown Moses posted:.... It's the basic MMORPG guild leader dynamic. Ukkk... i remember that kind of crap.  Well, that's his life bolloxed for the next few decades. Wonder what the fallout will be as regards future combat in Ukraine.
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Apr 13, 2023 18:33
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Saw a report he was an IT admin; so not shocked what he had access to.
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Apr 13, 2023 18:45
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Must be pretty easy to spy on the USA if you just have to get your dude enlisted so he can prepare the big dogs PowerPoints or whatever.
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Apr 13, 2023 18:47
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It’s not even that it seems; they made a low level dude an IT guy, because that’s not officer work, and he could just get whatever he wanted. Same way Snowden did.
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Apr 13, 2023 18:49
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OddObserver posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1646544312170053633 I hope they don't just throw the book at him, but also investigate those who gave him clearance and how they did it, and why would an airman first class needs to have access to information that can cause a major international incident. And apart from all the military intelligence jokes, how does one so galactically stupid as to post classified info on a kiddie server gets a MOS that requires an above-room-temperature IQ?
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Apr 13, 2023 18:52
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Briarned posted:I hope they don't just throw the book at him, but also investigate those who gave him clearance and how they did it, and why would an airman first class needs to have access to information that can cause a major international incident. And apart from all the military intelligence jokes, how does one so galactically stupid as to post classified info on a kiddie server gets a MOS that requires an above-room-temperature IQ? This is an aside; but the military sees a lot of white collar jobs as the place of enlisted 20 year olds because of weird notions about what an officer should do, it’s almost the inverse of making officers be missile men or fly drones. In the outside world these are high skilled positions that pay a ton of money.
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Apr 13, 2023 18:55
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Why the gently caress did someone from a state national guard have a security clearance for information more sensitive than where the national parks are located? US national guard does regular military stuff. They would regularly get deployed to active duty combat in Iraq, IIRC
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Apr 13, 2023 18:57
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I seem to recall reading an article on the F117 shootdown recently, and it mentioned part of the issue was every tom, dick and harry on the base. Fake edit: 600 people had access in the first two weeks of the Serbian campaign, later reduced to 100. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/mar/09/balkans2
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Apr 13, 2023 19:03
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It's TYOOL 2023 and it certainly feels from my work that it hasn't really set in just how incredibly far-reaching Sysadmin-Level access is and how much responsibility and power lies in that role. And because management typically doesn't care about computer stuff it becomes a huge liability with basically no supervision. It's a miracle that this doesn't happen more often.
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Apr 13, 2023 19:06
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freeasinbeer posted:This is an aside; but the military sees a lot of white collar jobs as the place of enlisted 20 year olds because of weird notions about what an officer should do, it’s almost the inverse of making officers be missile men or fly drones. Sounds like the guy was in a glorified data entry position - and that poo poo was farmed out to an enlisted man cuz officers are too good to type on a keyboard because that's a secretary's job or whatever idiot cultural norm they've got
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Apr 13, 2023 19:10
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Antigravitas posted:It's TYOOL 2023 and it certainly feels from my work that it hasn't really set in just how incredibly far-reaching Sysadmin-Level access is and how much responsibility and power lies in that role. And because management typically doesn't care about computer stuff it becomes a huge liability with basically no supervision.
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Apr 13, 2023 19:12
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We got a lot closer to Clancychat than was admitted or reported at the time. Remember that British surveillance plane that had a missile fired near it? Yeah it wasn't an accident. It was intentional. The pilot misinterpreted what ground radar operators told him and he thought he had permission to fire. The missile was locked on and targeted correctly and the only thing that averted likely nuclear escalation is that the missile malfunctioned and failed to fire properly. Phew. https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1646298946552352768?s=20
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Apr 13, 2023 19:23
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OddObserver posted:Uh, yeah. As someone who works in private software industry the idea that some random dude in military IT can just access *contents* of classified documents willy-nilly is shocking (as it was for Snowden). It's even more shocking that, after Snowden did this, they apparently changed nothing at all?
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Apr 13, 2023 19:35
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Chalks posted:It's even more shocking that, after Snowden did this, they apparently changed nothing at all? I'd be more shocked if they had, frankly
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Apr 13, 2023 19:43
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HonorableTB posted:The missile was locked on and targeted correctly and the only thing that averted likely nuclear escalation is that the missile malfunctioned and failed to fire properly. Yeah, like the time Russia nuked Turkey after their jet got shot down. 
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Apr 13, 2023 19:44
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HonorableTB posted:We got a lot closer to Clancychat than was admitted or reported at the time. Remember that British surveillance plane that had a missile fired near it? The nukes aren’t hard wired to go off anytime a NATO jet explodes.
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Apr 13, 2023 19:45
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HonorableTB posted:We got a lot closer to Clancychat than was admitted or reported at the time. Remember that British surveillance plane that had a missile fired near it? I would dearly love to hear your explanation of reasoning for the bolded.
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Apr 13, 2023 19:59
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Deliberately targeting and downing a NATO plane with 30 NATO troops on it seems like a great on-ramp to escalation over a single pilot fighter where the pilot can eject.Telsa Cola posted:I would dearly love to hear your explanation of reasoning for the bolded. It says so in the news article cited in the tweet that the missile malfunctioned and failed to fire properly when launched but that the targeting was accurate
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Apr 13, 2023 20:01
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https://mobile.twitter.com/WCVB/status/1646581173185904640
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Apr 13, 2023 20:03
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It would just get deconflicted and a billion apologies would happen.
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Apr 13, 2023 20:04
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A Korean airliner was shot down by a Soviet fighter during the height of the Cold War and it didn't result in nuclear war. There has been a number of incidents Hainan Island Incident over the years and it's never resulted in much of anything.
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Apr 13, 2023 20:05
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HonorableTB posted:Deliberately targeting and downing a NATO plane with 30 NATO troops on it seems like a great on-ramp to escalation over a single pilot fighter where the pilot can eject. Surveillance air craft, and even fighter craft get "accidently" downed all the time and the worst that happens is concessions get made or the country who downed them gets loving walloped in the diplomatic spehere. In the grand scheme of things 30 people on a spy plane isn't worth entering ww3.
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Apr 13, 2023 20:06
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The most likely aggressive response would just be blowing away any russian jets in the area that don't immediately leave and daring putin to do something about it. And that's not particularly likely even.
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