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spacejung posted:Without having followed ROY closely I had just assumed J-Dub was the guy, he was getting mad props on all the networks during the final stretch. Slow start I guess? J-Dub is a third wheel at best next to two of the better passers and shot creators in the league. Paulo was the #1 option where he didn't even have a G-league tier point guard until like January and still no shooting on the entire roster.
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Paolo Banchero has a five tool name. Jalen Williams might as well be a paint store. Case closed.
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Is Jalen (and similar variants) the most common first name in the NBA now?
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Tae posted:J-Dub is a third wheel at best next to two of the better passers and shot creators in the league. Paulo was the #1 option where he didn't even have a G-league tier point guard until like January and still no shooting on the entire roster. I think Paolo should win the award but why should jdub being on a better team matter? If chet played and had a stellar season should he have been punished for it too?
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Apr 14, 2023 05:07
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https://www.nba.com/news/film-study-key-plays-actions-2023-playoffs Jon schumann writing about key plays to watch for in the playoffs. He does not get enough exposure I think half way because it’s hard to click through to his stuff on the NBA website Basketball writing About basketball, not drama, not transactions, not awards voting and what dark villainy of the psyche it reveals
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Apr 14, 2023 05:19
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Metapod posted:I think Paolo should win the award but why should jdub being on a better team matter? If chet played and had a stellar season should he have been punished for it too? it's being the third guy imo. his usage is down almost 10%
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fwiw Zack Lowe made a pretty good point the other day when he asked what Jalen WIlliams was doing the first third of the season when Paolo was dropping 20 a game like clockwork w associated wear & tear while carrying the scoring load for the Magic in ways Williams wasn't asked to do. They're both deserving but I get that argument.
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Apr 14, 2023 05:36
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Early season magic roster was like: -Paolo -Bol Bol (Yes he was starting) -Wendel Carter -Jalen Suggs -Franz Wagner Fultz and Harris weren't even healthy at this point
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Apr 14, 2023 05:46
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Zogo posted:A new level of shook. Diar's gonna be a healthy scratch for Friday night, which is smart, you want the DPOY to have their bedtime so they're well rested for the playoffs.
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Apr 14, 2023 05:56
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Blind Pineapple posted:Is Jalen (and similar variants) the most common first name in the NBA now? temple fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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Apr 14, 2023 06:11
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franz wagner is pretty good i don't think it affects the case for roty, i just want people to acknowledge franz wagner
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hifi posted:it's being the third guy imo. his usage is down almost 10% But why should a rookie be punished for just having better teammates. Like Jdub was given a role and played it incredibly well I don't see why his role is a disqualifier
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Also consider this: https://twitter.com/BrandonRahbar/status/1640760399590031386?t=R587O8-Md39A81rjAKXjuw&s=19 He did kind of come back to earth the last few games of the year tho.
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hrrrm is that okc rookie the first ever player whose efficiency goes up with usage or is that such a small sample that it doesnt mean anything at all. impossible to say one way or another
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The crazy thing about all the Jalens is that it starts with Rose, whose actual basketball legacy is being the second or third best guy on a famous college team and then having a pretty good but ultimately unremarkable career where he also gave up 81 to Kobe.
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I feel like Jalen Roses hairline moves down with each new J*l*n that enters the world of sports
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Go Kings Go Knicks
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OH WORD SON posted:Go Kings Yes. No.
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Henchman of Santa posted:he also gave up 81 to Kobe. Not to get into the weeds on this, but wasn't mo pete defending Kobe that game?
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Vinestalk posted:What do you think I'm qq'ing about? I'm a pistons fan that doesn't like either the bulls or the raptors. 
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The reason why narrative is the number one factor in these end of the year awards is because sportswriters are by and large lazy as all hell. I guarantee you the only reason it was as near to unanimous as it was is that a portion of the people who voted for Paolo did so because voting consensus means no one is going to ask you to show your work.
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dokmo posted:Not to get into the weeds on this, but wasn't mo pete defending Kobe that game? Yeah that was mo pete, a rather bad defender trying to guard Kobe- their gameplan was to just not double and make it just be Kobe, so he obliged them.
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ChickenMedium posted:The reason why narrative is the number one factor in these end of the year awards is because sportswriters are by and large lazy as all hell. I guarantee you the only reason it was as near to unanimous as it was is that a portion of the people who voted for Paolo did so because voting consensus means no one is going to ask you to show your work. These dopes love showing their work. Being a main character with an unconventional but defensible take is guaranteed clicks.
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dokmo posted:Not to get into the weeds on this, but wasn't mo pete defending Kobe that game? He was getting tripled and still knocking down jumpers, but yeah, Peterson was their SG Every NBA great has that night where nothing short of tank artillery is stopping them from scoring, tack on the fact the Raptors were bad with a lovely coach and that Mo Pete was probably Toronto's only decent perimeter defender, plus Kobe is the definition of a gunner, and yeah, he dropped 81 and it could have been 100 El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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ChickenMedium posted:The reason why narrative is the number one factor in these end of the year awards is because sportswriters are by and large lazy as all hell. I guarantee you the only reason it was as near to unanimous as it was is that a portion of the people who voted for Paolo did so because voting consensus means no one is going to ask you to show your work. The reason why narrative matters is because the difference between some players is extremely fine and there’s no scientific way of proving “best” let alone “most valuable”
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Is there a consensus on what OKC should do with the huge amount of picks they have? Do they have the cap space to offer someone like, 4 1sts for a exceptional player
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DJ_Mindboggler posted:I think grown rear end fans screaming and flailing to distract a free thrower is annoying, it's refreshing to see it performed by someone more age appropriate (and who is clearly better at it than the middle aged men and women who make asses of themselves every game doing the same thing). I apologize sir but you’re wrong. Diar owns but it would actually be even cooler if it was a grown adult woman wailing. true fandom. Sadly that kind of passion no longer exists in the world
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dokmo posted:Not to get into the weeds on this, but wasn't mo pete defending Kobe that game? Jalen infamously gets so upset about it though, so I had assumed it was him.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Jalen infamously gets so upset about it though, so I had assumed it was him. Isn't his whole thing that they ran up the score? Kind of a silly statement (Toronto was ahead by 14 at the half) by Jalen if so https://www.espn.com/nba/game/_/gameId/260122013 Toronto actually shot the ball well enough to win, too, 47/50/81 El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Is there a consensus on what OKC should do with the huge amount of picks they have? Do they have the cap space to offer someone like, 4 1sts for a exceptional player I mean at some point they have to poo poo or get off the pot, right? Assuming the goal isn't "be a rebuilding-to-middling playoff team for most of the rest of forever" I'm a Thunder fan so mea culpa but I sure hope they decide to turn this hoard of picks into something soon
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Presti is good at drafting so maybe letting him have a bajilliion shots in the first round is a really good thing
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WhyteRyce posted:Presti is good at drafting so maybe letting him have a bajilliion shots in the first round is a really good thing The problem is the roster slots. They'll have to start cutting/trading/otherwise-dumping players real soon.
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The totality of Presti's draft resume is quite good but also I can't ever get over the Cole Aldrich stink
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gently caress to Miami Heat!!!!!!
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Is there a consensus on what OKC should do with the huge amount of picks they have? Do they have the cap space to offer someone like, 4 1sts for a exceptional player Okc is going to do whatever presti decides he wants to do the consensus means nothing to him or the organization so the consensus should be let presti cook.
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Metapod posted:The jdub jwill situation is not confusing at all when you have announcers who don't act all confused at 2 guys having the same name. Giddey was the youngest player on the court I think he'll be fine improving with the team Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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Fast Luck posted:I saw Poku didn't play and was listed with a knee injury. is he still hurt/working his way back or is he just not with using now that they have Jay Will entrenched in the rotation? Poku had a non-displaced tibial plateau fracture earlier this season. He came back a couple weeks ago but did not look physically ready to play. Like he did some good work in the gleague but he looked slow even in them.
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Thunder were so disciplined in that Pelicans game, it really convinced me that Daigneault knows what's up. Of course every time I decide a coach is For Real Good it turns out that six months later his star player can't stand him.
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Metapod posted:Poku had a non-displaced tibial plateau fracture earlier this season. He came back a couple weeks ago but did not look physically ready to play. Like he did some good work in the gleague but he looked slow even in them. spacejung posted:Without having followed ROY closely I had just assumed J-Dub was the guy, he was getting mad props on all the networks during the final stretch. Slow start I guess? xbilkis posted:Caring about one guy's reasonably considered hinky vote in a ROTY race that Banchero's going to run away with seems like a bad use of time Tae posted:J-Dub is a third wheel at best next to two of the better passers and shot creators in the league. Paulo was the #1 option where he didn't even have a G-league tier point guard until like January and still no shooting on the entire roster. Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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Henchman of Santa posted:The crazy thing about all the Jalens is that it starts with Rose, whose actual basketball legacy is being the second or third best guy on a famous college team and then having a pretty good but ultimately unremarkable career where he also gave up 81 to Kobe. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31309206/the-jalen-generation-how-jalen-rose-name-spread-world-sports
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