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haldolium posted:there is none. Star Traders  E: Top of page plug
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threelemmings posted:Star Traders A good game, but some people consider the flying yourself part a core component.
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Apr 14, 2023 20:10
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threelemmings posted:Star Traders  star traders is unfortunatley in the *etc.* part.
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Apr 14, 2023 20:11
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That said, I do wish Rogue Galaxy had stuck more with the style of the first game. Not only do I want more Spaceship games, I want more Big Spaceship games. Enough with the fighters, bombers, occasional gunship nonsense. Put me in a frigate, a destroyer, a cruiser. Give me a crew to interact with, a ship interior to explore and become familiar with. Basically a Mass Effect but with space combat gameplay rather than the usual ground-based fare. There seems to be hardly anything in that vein, just about everything going for that scale is in the strategy genre having you manage entire fleets. I suppose there's the X series, but those are... idiosyncratic, to say the least.
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Apr 14, 2023 20:16
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Freespace 2 with all of the modern mods/upgrades is incredible - and everyone should give it a playthrough at least once. The last Capital Ship game that I really had a blast with was Nexus: the Jupiter Incident but it is a bit of an oddity that might not appeal to everyone. It's gorgeous though, and really nails what it's going for in my opinion. There are a few story missions that are very punishing, though, oftentimes verging on 'failed during mission loadout' because you didn't take specific equipment/abilities - but nothing a guide won't solve. It absolutely owns bones, especially with getting down the sheer ludicrous scale of everything involved. DarkDobe fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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Apr 14, 2023 20:21
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Is freelancer even available anymore to buy? Sucks if it isn’t. I hate that freespace 2 and it didn’t spawn enough sequels or inspired by games that I got tired of the genre, but at least you can still buy freespace 2 on gog I guess.
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Perestroika posted:That said, I do wish Rogue Galaxy had stuck more with the style of the first game. Not only do I want more Spaceship games, I want more Big Spaceship games. Enough with the fighters, bombers, occasional gunship nonsense. Put me in a frigate, a destroyer, a cruiser. Give me a crew to interact with, a ship interior to explore and become familiar with. Basically a Mass Effect but with space combat gameplay rather than the usual ground-based fare. There seems to be hardly anything in that vein, just about everything going for that scale is in the strategy genre having you manage entire fleets. I suppose there's the X series, but those are... idiosyncratic, to say the least. It's the only non-RTS game I can recall where you are running a big battleship, and it was really cool.
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Evochron Mercenary is another one in the genre. There's a more recent Evochron Legacy SE too, from the looks of it. In a drastically different style, there's Objects in Space, where the twist is that you're not space dogfighting, but more like playing a sub sim (all about silent cruising and avoiding detection) and from a first person perspective as you physically run through the ship to operate the stations or repair poo poo.
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I've been having fun with SpaceBourne 2. It's a solo dev project with space dogfighting, EVA combat, RPG mechanics, etc. A little janky but super impressive. The dogfighting is particularly cool imo, it's got an auto-pursuit system that cuts out a lot of the aimlessly wheeling around for me without being too hand-holdy.
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FishMcCool posted:Evochron Mercenary is another one in the genre. There's a more recent Evochron Legacy SE too, from the looks of it. In a drastically different style, there's Objects in Space, where the twist is that you're not space dogfighting, but more like playing a sub sim (all about silent cruising and avoiding detection) and from a first person perspective as you physically run through the ship to operate the stations or repair poo poo. I love Objects in Space conceptually but can't recommend anyone buy it at this point when they ceased development due to money issues with massive bugs that'll crop up regularly and ruin your runs.
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haldolium posted:there is none. What about the X series? X4 got savaged but people always say X3 Albion Prelude is the best of its type.
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pentyne posted:What about the X series? X4 got savaged but people always say X3 Albion Prelude is the best of its type. X4 is apparently pretty good now. They had a major update about a year or so ago that seemed to turn public sentiment around. 
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X4 on release was never going to live up to what X3 could do after the third expansion and the mods fixing/adding poo poo. Now there has been a ton of content added to it and the mods are all there so we can wait for the cycle to continue whenever they decide to make X5.
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pentyne posted:What about the X series? X4 got savaged but people always say X3 Albion Prelude is the best of its type. X series is nothing like it, apart from still being an UI nightmare and techincally questionable it is a universe simulation like their slogan TRADE FIGHT THINK BUILD or so for X3. Everything is kinda there but it takes way too much involvement in dumb rear end UX systems to "get it" and space combat in the end isn't quite that great really, its more an achievement to get there as the actual thing itself. It's a massive chore to get where you want to be and the story/characters/animation part of it is worse as most indie games from 15 years ago (that is X4 rn, which has not really improved on that front since the original X3). I want to put a bit emphasis on "space opera" here which was a thing back then for space combat games. Some sort of more or less good staged storyline, otherwise rather simple systems to upgrade gear/ships. Very basic concepts of trading alter with Freespace which basically had the goal to get The Best Ship. It was very linear, focused and X series is exactly the contrary from early to later games you can do whatever but there is no real reason given other then for the sake of doing these things as all factions are completely bad represented and the story is borderline non-present. Its just not that kind of game, its simulation (which is unique at least) is the foreground and reason to play it.
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haldolium posted:apart from still being an UI nightmare and techincally questionabl Ah, yes now I remember why I bounced off of it like a racquet ball
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Orv posted:I love Objects in Space conceptually but can't recommend anyone buy it at this point when they ceased development due to money issues with massive bugs that'll crop up regularly and ruin your runs. Fair enough, I haven't touched it in ages and never got too far, and the mixed reviews seem to echo your issues.
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It's basically Kenshi in space, with all that entails.
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Every space game developer eventually wants to make Privateer 2 again for some reason.
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God I loved playing privateer. Shooting down bandits. Pronouncing the G in Paradigm.
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I wish there was a REALLY GOOD space trucker game. Elite Dangerous is probably the best in that category, but it's boring doing trade runs there for the most part. Give me a game where I can do long hauls that take awhile but I have to adjust course and deal with equipment malfunctions. Like I want something that's more about keeping the ship on course and running and dealing with environmental hazards to make deliveries, and less about every issue just being space pirates again. I feel like the closest might be Objects in Space, but that almost seems like a submarine game and it's pretty simplistic. Doing the component upgrades on all the device boards is a really neat idea, though.
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Europa Truck Simulator would be cool
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Star Wars Squadrons is probably the closest modern and 'high budget' (sort of) successor to Freespace et al, but even with the very short campaign I was pretty bored of it by the end. I couldn't put my finger on what turned me off but possibly that missions were so heavily scripted and seemed to only have one way to do them - felt very hand-holdy compared to those games of yore.DarkDobe posted:Freespace 2 with all of the modern mods/upgrades is incredible - and everyone should give it a playthrough at least once. Yes to both of these suggestions. Nice to see Nexus get a mention. I've been playing this recently having paid less than £1 during a GOG sale. I played it when it first came out and found it too frustrating, but have been enjoying it now exactly the way you suggest - use the walkthrough to get the loadout, save game, go into the mission blind.
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Knossos is what you want. Check out the Freespace thread in the retro subforum: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3915174
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JammyB posted:Knossos is what you want. Check out the Freespace thread in the retro subforum: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3915174 Oh gently caress, I'm old now. I always assumed that subforum was only SNES, Atari and Sega and idunno, DOS games?
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JammyB posted:Knossos is what you want. Check out the Freespace thread in the retro subforum: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3915174 🫡
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I'm really loving Everspace 2 in almost every way. The one thing I think it's deficient in, and a lot of space sims get this wrong, is that there isn't enough radio chatter. Outside of the scripted missions, there is almost no chatter whatsoever. It would be nice if friendlies and enemies would radio you randomly as you roam around the systems. In a mining zone, and a friendly might radio you to go "Hey, this is my claim! Although... well, I guess there's enough ore to go around." Or an authority vessel might quickly pipe in to say "Move along, citizen." or "We've registered you on our scanners, pilot." Enemies could radio you to taunt "You're going down, humie scum!", or to cry out just before they're taken down. Pop up a little video window with a look at the radioing pilot as well. Would help the universe seem more alive, like there are others out there with you going about their business, or enemies that aren't just blips on a radar.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:I'm really loving Everspace 2 in almost every way. The one thing I think it's deficient in, and a lot of space sims get this wrong, is that there isn't enough radio chatter. Outside of the scripted missions, there is almost no chatter whatsoever. It would be nice if friendlies and enemies would radio you randomly as you roam around the systems. Do the Gang Wars missions if you want some REALLY corny radio chatter to go with your FIRE GANG vs ICE GANG quests To that end they really need to make those weapons available to players...
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deep dish peat moss posted:Kids these days consider the PS2 to be "Retro" the ps2 was released 23 years ago it is
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they should get on rereleasing burnout 3 takedown. that game is ftw
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deep dish peat moss posted:Kids these days consider the PS2 to be "Retro" The time is now, old man.
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PS3 is also retro. Idk if y'all have heard but they're on the PS5 now.
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haha what posted:they should get on rereleasing burnout 3 takedown. that game is ftw A reminder that EA is sat on some of the best arcade racing IP ever and also owns the industry's premier specialist racing game studio. And has so far proceeded to do gently caress all with either.
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In my mind "retro games" is always going to refer to Atari and Commodore and poo poo like that and no one can convince me otherwise
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Bumhead posted:A reminder that EA is sat on some of the best arcade racing IP ever and also owns the industry's premier specialist racing game studio. Could be worse, they could be using their specialist racing studio to make continually terrible driving for open world games.
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kazil posted:could be worse, EA could be making those games lol WRC is going to be an early litmus test. On paper giving Codemasters the WRC license should be a home run, but there's been plenty of time for EA to infest what they're doing. As a fan of Dirt Rally 2.0, I'm half expecting a situation where that remains the go-to rally game for the next 10 years or something while EA/Codies spin their wheels trying to match it on an annual basis. Hope I'm wrong but it's extremely possible.
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My first console was an NES in 1986 and my first dedicated can-actually-play-most-modern-games PC was in 2019 (and it was a prebuilt ._.)
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Mr E posted:Is freelancer even available anymore to buy? Sucks if it isn’t. I hate that freespace 2 and it didn’t spawn enough sequels or inspired by games that I got tired of the genre, but at least you can still buy freespace 2 on gog I guess.
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