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Julio Cruz posted:so are all my opponents getting ridiculously lucky or is Menagerie Warrior a whole lot better than people were expecting? IMO it is a good deck but people are still on the meme or they are building it poorly.
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it seems to do really well at controlling the board with all the buffed-up rushers and then hits you in the face with a Windfury Reborn One-Analgam Band until you’re dead
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Apr 16, 2023 19:02
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Valiantman posted:I put together a warrior deck that is not even menagerie and it does okay. I mean, about 30% winrate is not good or anything but I'd suppose a proper deck will be much better. I'm not exactly on the pulse of the meta, but I feel like the biggest problem with Warrior right now is that nothing they got is both good and interesting. Aggro menagerie seems to work fine, as do slower menagerie decks that focus more on big taunts and a bit of buffing. But the new cards don't really do cool things in them. The good cards from Festival of Legend give them card draw and good cheap minions, but those aren't cool. The legendaries are either a 4/3 that gives you some more value or a 5 mana deck buff that's enough tempo loss that you'll probably lose if you aren't incredibly careful with it. There's fun stuff in Warrior, but a lot of it is just "having a good 2/2 weapon in the core set is good" or "using the magnetic minions in the core set with Mistake is good" or "using Armegadillo from the core set with all the good taunt cards in Warrior is good".
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Apr 16, 2023 20:35
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I know it's not going to be 'good' one the meta settles but man am I having fun with Button Druid. +9 Attack and +9 Armor is a pretty good deal for 2 mana and there are enough slow-ish decks right now that you can usually get there.
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Apr 16, 2023 21:02
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I don’t think DK is unbeatable. I’ve had a lot of success with control priest against all three flavors of DK (four if you count rainbow but that archetype seems bad) The downside is you have to play a slow priest deck and the mirror is one of the most unbelievably tedious matchups in all of hearthstone history
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NorgLyle posted:I know it's not going to be 'good' one the meta settles but man am I having fun with Button Druid. +9 Attack and +9 Armor is a pretty good deal for 2 mana and there are enough slow-ish decks right now that you can usually get there. it's ludicrous in Wild where the questline rotated ### Haha wild is turbo fubar # Class: Druid # Format: Wild # # 2x (0) Aquatic Form # 2x (0) Innervate # 2x (0) Pounce # 2x (1) Claw # 1x (1) Lost in the Park # 2x (1) Rake # 2x (1) Secure the Deck # 2x (2) Groovy Cat # 2x (2) Harmonic Mood # 2x (2) Moonlit Guidance # 2x (3) Feral Rage # 2x (3) Moontouched Amulet # 1x (4) Flobbidinous Floop # 2x (4) Spread the Word # 2x (7) Umbral Owl # 2x (8) Crypt Keeper # AAEBAbvyBAL1/AKj9gMOmgj5rQOV4AOi4QOvgASunwS4oAS5oASuwAS2mAXuowWC4AWR4AWp4AUAAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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my opponent played 70 cards and still lost because i stole their Tess edit: i think death knight might be a bit too good right now. idk though 
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Excelzior posted:it's ludicrous in Wild where the questline rotated I queued up 3 games in wild for quests, and all 3 were mirror matches of this 
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Apr 17, 2023 00:57
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Decided to start using some of my stockpile of arena tickets to get a few more packs. Results: Hunter: 0-3 Druid: 2-3 Paladin: 1-3 Priest: 1-3 Druid: 1-3 And the losses aren't close either, every game is a complete blowout one way or the other. Every draft feels absolutely horrible, like there are just no good cards available. Total legendaries offered in 5 drafts: 2. Haven't been offered Death Knight once either.
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Apr 17, 2023 01:03
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I really want Lightshow Mage to be good but I haven't found the formula yet
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Apr 17, 2023 05:19
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Fun fact: Go to HSreplay, look up the top 50 cards for current Arena (if you can't, I'll give you a protip: 42 of them are DK cards)
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Apr 17, 2023 05:23
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skaboomizzy posted:I really want Lightshow Mage to be good but I haven't found the formula yet 
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Apr 17, 2023 05:38
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Had my worst losing streak over the weekend. 15 losses in a row. Every one of my opponents got the perfect draw or had the perfect counter for whatever I managed to play, paired with me getting the worst draws possible.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Fun fact: Go to HSreplay, look up the top 50 cards for current Arena How are you seeing this? Even if you exclude neutrals I only see 5 DK cards in the top 25 for Deck Winrate. Mage and Priest both have more.
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Apr 17, 2023 09:06
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skaboomizzy posted:I really want Lightshow Mage to be good but I haven't found the formula yet Not sure about the deck being good but a juiced Rommath sure is
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Apr 17, 2023 13:53
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Ok thief control priest has now surpassed blood control DK to be my absolute favourite deck ever. I’ve always liked control priests and I haven’t had this much fun in a long time. I’ve decided though to rename the archetype ‘bullshit priest’ on account of all the wacky poo poo you can pull out of your rear end. I’ve paired it with the Pop star Anduin to maximise the irritation my opponents feel.
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Apr 17, 2023 13:57
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AnacondaHL posted:I queued up 3 games in wild for quests, and all 3 were mirror matches of this Hey now, some people are playing Kingsbane too!
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Apr 17, 2023 15:23
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Standard ranked is 80% DK, blood or frost. Cool.
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Apr 17, 2023 15:27
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There are a lot of DK cards I'd like to see get nerfed, but one in particular I'd like to see is Vampiric Blood. Maybe instead it should be "Give your hero +5 maximum (empty) Health. Spend 3 Corpses to heal 5 Health." I'm not really sure why that spell has card draw in the first place.
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Apr 17, 2023 15:45
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Mr Beens posted:Standard ranked is 80% DK, blood or frost. Cool. Yeah this is an issue, but we know they'll balance it with the first true balance patch. That's what keeps me playing when things seem stupid, I know they are committed to change.
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Desert Bus posted:Hey now, some people are playing Kingsbane too!
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Scholtz posted:There are a lot of DK cards I'd like to see get nerfed, but one in particular I'd like to see is Vampiric Blood. When was the last time you saw someone play Healing Touch? The card is vastly worse without the draw. Which maybe it needs, but tempo-negative survival tools generally don’t get played unless they’ve got something else going on.
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Julio Cruz posted:it seems to do really well at controlling the board with all the buffed-up rushers and then hits you in the face with a Windfury Reborn One-Analgam Band until you’re dead Yeah, plus if you save amalgam of the deep for the same turn you can drop the buff totem you have a high chance to discover an extra one amalgam band since there's so few neutral totems.
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tbh Enrage warrior still outperforms Menagerie Warrior you can just slot in the new tools from FoL like an instrument tech for greater Imbued Axe consistency and keep on trucking
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bravesword posted:When was the last time you saw someone play Healing Touch? The card is vastly worse without the draw. Which maybe it needs, but tempo-negative survival tools generally don’t get played unless they’ve got something else going on. good
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Mr Beens posted:Standard ranked is 80% DK, blood or frost. Cool. maybe things are different at whatever rank you’re at but I’m not seeing anything remotely like that (I’m at platinum 7 currently). I’m getting a good mix of classes, and when I do get a DK opponent there is a good mix of archetypes. I see a bunch of Mages, rogues, priests, Pallies and DKs; a moderate amount of Druids; a small amount of demon hunters and warlocks and almost no warriors and hunters and shaman. I think pure dude paladin and thief control priest are at least as good as any DK archetype, possibly better.
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The Lord Bude posted:maybe things are different at whatever rank you’re at but I’m not seeing anything remotely like that (I’m at platinum 7 currently). I’m getting a good mix of classes, and when I do get a DK opponent there is a good mix of archetypes. I see a bunch of Mages, rogues, priests, Pallies and DKs; a moderate amount of Druids; a small amount of demon hunters and warlocks and almost no warriors and hunters and shaman. I usually finish each month at diamond , currently struggling to get out of loving gold. The only games I've won in the last 3 days have been when I've played DK myself.
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As much as I like both DK and priest; most of my games I’ve played pure dude pally (the VS list). Edit: and as we speak My blood control DK just lost to a hunter, maybe the second one I’ve encountered since I’ve been playing this expac. The Lord Bude fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Apr 17, 2023 |
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The Lord Bude posted:As much as I like both DK and priest; most of my games I’ve played pure dude pally (the VS list). I've started running Face Hunter because it turns out the best way to stop blood DK is to just keep hitting them in the face really hard
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I haven't played much Battlegrounds recently but with the new expansion figured I'd go back into the swing a little and wow, why did they murder Queen Wagtoggle? She used to have kind of a fun hero power to try and build around but now I don't even know what you're supposed to do with her.
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:I've started running Face Hunter because it turns out the best way to stop blood DK is to just keep hitting them in the face really hard Oh god, I love face hunter. I think that's why I like frost aggro DK so much; it's face hunter, but blue. What's your list?
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NorgLyle posted:I haven't played much Battlegrounds recently but with the new expansion figured I'd go back into the swing a little and wow, why did they murder Queen Wagtoggle? She used to have kind of a fun hero power to try and build around but now I don't even know what you're supposed to do with her. I think at some point they decided that they didn't like having so many hero powers that meant you would end up with several boring early units in your final comp solely because you bought them early and it's never worth trading them out because nothing could be better than continually using your hero power on it. And they're probably right about that, but some of the changed designs are better than others.
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Mayveena posted:Yeah this is an issue, but we know they'll balance it with the first true balance patch. That's what keeps me playing when things seem stupid, I know they are committed to change. I’d rather they committed to foresight, so we don’t have to live beta each environment for them. Anyone could have told them Blood DK effectively not rotating any cards was going to be strong in a rotated environment, it’s not a big ask to maybe preempt that. And even if you assume internal QA couldn’t work that out (and that’s how physical card games work, so they can) you had the competitive and streaming sides to point it out. The Lord Bude posted:Ok thief control priest has now surpassed blood control DK to be my absolute favourite deck ever..
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fanny packrat posted:Oh god, I love face hunter. I think that's why I like frost aggro DK so much; it's face hunter, but blue. What's your list? I know there are some things that can be done to make it better, but I'm not crafting anything for at least another week or so. ### no think shoot face # Class: Hunter # Format: Standard # Year of the Wolf # # 2x (1) Barbed Nets # 2x (1) Batty Guest # 2x (1) Bunch of Bananas # 2x (1) Trinket Tracker # 2x (1) Vicious Slitherspear # 2x (2) Arrow Smith # 1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn # 2x (2) Barrel of Monkeys # 2x (2) Doggie Biscuit # 2x (2) Frenzied Fangs # 2x (2) Spirit Poacher # 2x (3) Ancient Krakenbane # 1x (3) Rowdy Fan # 2x (3) Wild Spirits # 1x (4) Dragonbane # 1x (4) Jungle Jammer # 1x (4) Pozzik, Audio Engineer # 1x (5) Queen Azshara # AAECAYoWBtu5BOKkBfTIBefKBdrQBa+eBgydsASIsgTA0wS44wTB4wTM5ATQ5ASqpAXoygXk9QXS+AWwngYAAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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They are going to live beta it. There’s no qa alive that can cover all possibilities. And streamers can’t predict impact any better than they can. You can also say no other deck has *yet* to compete. The expansion has only been out for a week, and in general control decks take a longer time to perfect. Imo they are correct to wait the two weeks, excepting obvious cases like the nerfs we just got.
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Tin Tim posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyl0T4-XxRM 0-4 with this tonight and it has the same problem as the last version I tried where I just have nothing to play early and my hand gets clogged up it's more likely that I'm just terrible though
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Mayveena posted:They are going to live beta it. There’s no qa alive that can cover all possibilities. And streamers can’t predict impact any better than they can. You can also say no other deck has *yet* to compete. The expansion has only been out for a week, and in general control decks take a longer time to perfect. I think there's obviously a sane middle ground between 'Throw your hands up, it's impossible' and 'No, you must cover every possibility'. See: Literally every physical CCG that has existed in the last 30 years.
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I think we’re in the middle ground, no deck seems overly strong to me imo.
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Shockeh posted:I think there's obviously a sane middle ground between 'Throw your hands up, it's impossible' and 'No, you must cover every possibility'. I don't understand why the physical game comparison. Do you realize how many cards WotC has had to nerf?? A lot! From day one, they've had to nerf cards and they will nerf cards when they need to for the tourney environment to stay sane. Also note that nerfing cards for them is very painful as they absolutely impact people who know about the nerfs and people who don't. If they could do what Team 5 can do (ie instantly change cards) I think you'd see a lot more nerfs.
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