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RPATDO_LAMD posted:now seems like a great time to say "roguelikes" the berlin interpretation
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appropriatemetaphor posted:and yeah...i'm unsheathing right behind you... to horny jail with you
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PinheadSlim posted:GTA 3 doesn't care how you resolve the objective of a given mission, it gives you several ways to do it and it's not really different than Thief. I don't really know what an immersive sim is supposed to be other than i've played deus ex, but surely when people use the term they mean more than "there are multiple ways to accomplish the goals the game gives you." based on what I know about it, I feel like searching the environment for a slip of paper that says "0451" and then punching that into a keypad door lock is somehow essential to the genre, and it's been a while since i played but i'm pretty sure that's not in GTA3 RPATDO_LAMD posted:now seems like a great time to say "roguelikes" ooh ooh I know this one. "Roguelike" isn't a genre by itself. It's a description of a certain kind of mechanic that can be present in many genres. e.g. Binding of Isaac is a roguelike bullet hell game; Crypt of the Necrodancer is a roguelike rhythm game, etc.
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fridge corn posted:Calling diablo games action rpgs really doesn't make sense anymore considering there's loads of actiony rpgs that exist now that are way more action oriented than diablo is For sure, and I think that's part of the problem with genres. We're used to labeling things by what theyre about, but for games the genre is what you do. It seems like there's a tendency to try and be descriptive with it for some reason. Like I think the genre 'moba' works really well, because I don't know what it stands for, and you don't need to. It's just a word that only means "that type of game". You can't say 'no it's not very moba'. When you tell me what it stands for though, I can say, ah well it's not actually 'autumnal' or whatever.
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Diablo isn't an action game, its an ARPG, which doesn't actually stand for anything.
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We should stop using genre names and only describe games as <game>-likes
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Can we all at least agree that the worst is when developers make up cutesy pun genres, like calling a first-person immsim about being a cobbler a "First-Person Booter"
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Mario-like.
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giogadi posted:We should stop using genre names and only describe games as <game>-likes I miss every FPS game being called a Doomclone
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Similar to Doomclone or Soulslike or Rougelike, terms that everyone loves, we can call immersive sims by their origin game: System Shock. Shocklikes, "Shockers." I'm playing the newest shocker you'd say.
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COD, a doom-like
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souls-like is a very useful term for games that rip off dark souls, which is a ton of games nowadays
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Making checkpoints look like bonfires you light up has forever changed gaming
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Vic posted:Deusexii I'm thinking we can do a MetroidVania style mashup. ShockerDeusexiis. Really rolls of the tongue.
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when i was a kid my brother used to call it like Dyoos Ex lmao. He also used to say Beh Heh Moth for behemoth. He was like 20 at the time.
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beh heh moth kid checking in, though I was younger than that
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Nice Van My Man posted:I'm thinking we can do a MetroidVania style mashup. ShockerDeusexiis. Really rolls of the tongue. Deussy
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Nice Van My Man posted:Yeah I played some indie space fighter sim that I forget the name of with realistic space physics. Combat went like this: Yeah, space games with direct-fire and dogfights don't make a lot of sense. Star Wars really tricked so many into "space = aerial-style dogfights" when in reality, "space = submarine combat" which sounds a lot more boring. I'd like to see an Expanse game though, 80% dodging torpedoes and 20% shredding hulls with point-defense turrets 
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Tetrabor posted:Star Wars really tricked so many into "space = aerial-style dogfights" when in reality, "space = submarine combat" which sounds a lot more boring. I don't think "in reality" makes very much sense in this context
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Nice Van My Man posted:Yeah I played some indie space fighter sim that I forget the name of with realistic space physics. Combat went like this: I believe the name is Solar Winds!
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speaking of "submarine" combat sims, Highfleet's strategy layer is basically submarine operations with giant airships and its cool af
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No More Hero’s on the Wii was an immersive sim because it used the little microphone in the wiimote when characters called you and you could hold it up to your head like a real phone.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:I believe the name is Solar Winds! Nah, it was some 3D indie game that looked like Freespace 2. Unless there's another solar winds that isn't a top down dos game.
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The BSG total conversion for Freespace 2 flew like a standard dogfighter but had a button you could hold to maintain your current heading but freely rotate your ship, which let you do the sideways strafing from the show without having to completely re-work the flight physics.
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!Klams posted:I think this is the fourth time we've had this conversation, and I'm not fussed, it's a decent topic, but the conclusion one time was that the only way to describe things accurately was with other games, rather than genres. It's clear until idiot morons use Rogue like to mean procedurally generated or "you die and start over" instead of games like rogue. Morons. The dumbest people. Gamers. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Apr 18, 2023 |
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Nice Van My Man posted:Nah, it was some 3D indie game that looked like Freespace 2. Unless there's another solar winds that isn't a top down dos game. I was just making a joke that your description applied, obviously I nailed it haha. I miss Nintendo Power. They sure knew how to make some dogshit games look awesome.
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Duck and Cover posted:It's clear until idiot morons use Rogue like to mean procedurally generated or "you die and start over" instead of games like rogue. Morons. The dumbest people. Gamers. I just wrote a Save.bat and load.bat to play Moria/Nethack/Adom like a normal game. 
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Duck and Cover posted:It's clear until idiot morons use Rogue like to mean procedurally generated or "you die and start over" instead of games like rogue. Morons. The dumbest people. Gamers. I HATE THEM!!!!
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Baba is You is actually a great way to understand how game design works, and how computers work in general. Unrelated, I finally beat The End in MGS3D. Goddamn that was a slog, but very satisfying. Still get a real kick out of the fact that I'm playing Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence on my 3DS XL. E: Holy poo poo, I could sell my physical copy for more money than I paid for my 3DS? What is happening? tango alpha delta fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Apr 18, 2023 |
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I have to call them immersive sims because I don't really know of any other genre title that implies it's a first person with an inventory and dialogue trees though!!! XCOM 2 doesn't have any of those though, at least not really an extensive inventory Xcom3 will take the plunge though and have scenes where aliens capture and interrogate you and so you get chrisma checks etc
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jokes posted:Day o' sex I used to play this Halflife mod called Existence as a kid that was pretty much a Matrix ripoff and its website was whatisexistence.com which I committed to memory by remembering it as "what i sex is tence"
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Floodixor posted:I have to call them immersive sims because I don't really know of any other genre title that implies it's a first person with an inventory and dialogue trees though!!! I believe XCOM 2 is an imsim because the player literally gets sucked into/pulled out of an in-game body as a plot device
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George posted:every genre should be named after the worst game in that genre Dark-Souls-2-likes
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