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Unlucky7 posted:I never completed SS but I did enjoy what I played. Kind of tempted to get the HD port using a eshop voucher alongside Kirby Return to Dreamland, if there are going to be callbacks to that This was me about a week ago and I pulled the trigger. It's so clearly a "beta" version of what BotW would eventually become: the increased focus on verticality, the stamina gauge, lightweight crafting and item interactions, and a similar attempt (though much different conclusion) to challenge the question of overworld vs. dungeon It's very stiff, the controls are such a mess, and there is a lot of filler. But I'm still having a really good time, and the vibes are just as excellent as they were back when I played it on the Wii. The dungeons are as good as you remember also, while I don't necessarily think BotW has bad or weak music, imo SS is when the composers were at the top of their game. The way the music transitions and blends as you move between areas, the character themes (and variations), its clever use of motifs, the absolutely iconic main theme... it's so god drat masterful Groose has eight variations of his theme. it rules so hard, man
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Apr 19, 2023 22:04
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WarpDogs posted:It's very stiff, the controls are such a mess, and there is a lot of filler. But I'm still having a really good time, and the vibes are just as excellent as they were back when I played it on the Wii. The dungeons are as good as you remember There's a lot of truth here. There's aggravating stuff in there, but I enjoyed revisiting it especially because it was nice to go back to a real progression of solid dungeons. It's certainly messy overall, but it scratches that itch a lot more than BotW does.
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Apr 19, 2023 22:09
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Wanted to ask if the DLC did much for the Rito in BotW The woman there on her honeymoon agreed. She said the village sucked and there was nothing to do.
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Apr 19, 2023 22:16
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The funny thing is that Hyrule is so massive in BotW and yet even for all I wandered through and explored I am so endlessly curious about what the world is like on the other side of the desert and the mountain/ravine to the north.
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Apr 19, 2023 22:21
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Revali carries the rito just fine. His demeanor towards Link makes up for everything else about the rito.
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Apr 19, 2023 22:26
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Kass has a role in the DLC, and is my friend.
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Apr 19, 2023 22:31
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I actually think Groose might return, not necessarily in this game, and that if does, he'll be a different reincarnation, like Impa or Beedle.
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Apr 19, 2023 22:31
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WarpDogs posted:also, while I don't necessarily think BotW has bad or weak music, imo SS is when the composers were at the top of their game. The way the music transitions and blends as you move between areas, the character themes (and variations), its clever use of motifs, the absolutely iconic main theme... it's so god drat masterful Agreed with all of this, the music in Act 1 especially was incredibly good at setting the tone of Link & Zelda’s relationship The clip from the game’s website that was posted earlier gives me a lot of hope, it’d make a killer Hyrule Field theme Albatrossy_Rodent posted:I actually think Groose might return, not necessarily in this game, and that if does, he'll be a different reincarnation, like Impa or Beedle. Voiced by Patrick Warburton The Maroon Hawk fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Apr 19, 2023 |
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Apr 19, 2023 22:32
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idle unrelated wondering but I've noticed that indie Zelda-like games tend to be stuck in the 2D era. The only 3D indie Zelda-like I can think of is the second Oceanhorn game.
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Apr 19, 2023 22:37
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Unlucky7 posted:I never completed SS but I did enjoy what I played. Kind of tempted to get the HD port using a eshop voucher alongside Kirby Return to Dreamland, if there are going to be callbacks to that I have been watching Thorn's Let's Play on it and the battle theme during the Ancient Cistern boss fight is fantastic. (Also what a tremendous boss!)
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Apr 19, 2023 22:38
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I hope Kass comes back in Tears. Hearing his accordion and knowing you're not alone, because Your Friend is near, nothing like it. 
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Apr 19, 2023 22:51
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Junpei posted:idle unrelated wondering but I've noticed that indie Zelda-like games tend to be stuck in the 2D era. The only 3D indie Zelda-like I can think of is the second Oceanhorn game. 3d games are a lot more complex so it makes sense that devs with limited time, budget, and manpower would stick to 2d.
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Apr 19, 2023 22:53
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Junpei posted:idle unrelated wondering but I've noticed that indie Zelda-like games tend to be stuck in the 2D era. The only 3D indie Zelda-like I can think of is the second Oceanhorn game. Craftopia, if you want to see the jankiest of jank.
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Apr 19, 2023 23:00
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Rito village's lacking points are made up by the Kass Everywhere system.
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Apr 19, 2023 23:02
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“Dad, is he a potato?” -My 5yo son when he first means the Goron in Skyward Sword
Mahoning fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Apr 20, 2023 |
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Apr 19, 2023 23:04
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Does Tunic count as a 3D zelda?
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Apr 19, 2023 23:13
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Skyward Sword score had some good tracks but not on the same tier as BotW. The Skyloft theme oozes with cheese.
Albatrossy_Rodent fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Apr 19, 2023 |
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Apr 19, 2023 23:16
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botw's strength is more in its sound design than the music itself i think
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Apr 19, 2023 23:17
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Albatrossy_Rodent posted:Skyward Sword score had some good tracks but not on the same tier as BotW. The Skylight theme oozes with cheese. how can one rodent continue to be so wrong
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Apr 19, 2023 23:27
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Junpei posted:idle unrelated wondering but I've noticed that indie Zelda-like games tend to be stuck in the 2D era. The only 3D indie Zelda-like I can think of is the second Oceanhorn game. there's a plateau of sorts with the tools and content pipelines available to indie devs. It's never been easier to create a 3D game, but it's still way more expensive and difficult and complicated compared to a 2D game (and I'm including "3D models in a 2D perspective" as 2D). A single person could make a basic LttP-like from scratch in probably a few months, while even something as "simple" as an OoT-like would require years and multiple people on a more meta level, the average indie dev age isn't quite to the point where 3D games reign supreme in their nostalgia canon. Not that nostalgia is necessary for creating a Zelda-like, but it obviously helps
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Apr 19, 2023 23:44
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Late-90s 3D as a nostalgia subject is hard to do right, because a lot of the aesthetics of that era were just a result of floundering in search of new norms, and it's way harder than it looks. The only advantage for a developer is in not needing to come up with a large amount of high-fidelity assets, which does nothing to offset the challenge of making gameplay that's simple and fun. But there are indie developers who are trying it, making things like Valkie 64.
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Apr 19, 2023 23:58
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Rito Village can pull on Dragon Roost Island for background music, it's already my favorite place to hangout just for that.
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Apr 20, 2023 00:02
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What will the in the game lore reason be this game for why link doesn't speak in cutscenes, I wonder. Will they use the same reasoning they did in BotW.
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Apr 20, 2023 00:29
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Link will attempt to speak hundreds of times in ToTK but he'll be interrupted by an NPC every time
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Apr 20, 2023 00:48
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kidcoelacanth posted:botw's strength is more in its sound design than the music itself i think 
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Apr 20, 2023 01:09
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Age of Calamity answered why he doesn't actually talk Man may have chased a fish but he is full of rocks. His internal organs are more goron than Hylian
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Apr 20, 2023 01:13
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Daner T posted:What will the in the game lore reason be this game for why link doesn't speak in cutscenes, I wonder. Will they use the same reasoning they did in BotW. Link is too annoying and you muted him. "It's yo' boyyyy, Link! Coming at ya from the sky islands above Hyrule! Today were going to be tackling the dive 1000 feet into Lake Hylia challenge!
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Apr 20, 2023 01:13
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his voice is sealed in the past alongside Zelda and most of his forearm then again, the game in which he speaks the most (WW) has NPC control in it. if there really is NPC companions or recruiting or something along those lines, then there's at least a small chance they let him say a bit more
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Apr 20, 2023 01:13
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Personally I like the dialog choices that has Link be a chaotic, somewhat feral idiot. For instance, there was at least one dialog where you can initially say Yes or No to something, then swing around to it again and choose the opposite and they would go "Didn't you just...oh nevermind"
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Apr 20, 2023 01:18
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You will ge your wish and have Link's voice. It will be the cartoon "Excuse me, Princess!" version.
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Apr 20, 2023 02:11
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Mulaney Power Move posted:You will ge your wish and have Link's voice. It will be the cartoon "Excuse me, Princess!" version. Still better than BotW's voice acting 
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Apr 20, 2023 02:15
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Mustached Demon posted:Revali carries the rito just fine. His demeanor towards Link makes up for everything else about the rito. Revali has the problem of being dead however.
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Apr 20, 2023 02:34
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Unlucky7 posted:Personally I like the dialog choices that has Link be a chaotic, somewhat feral idiot. I like how in the conversation after Link first sees the paragliding old man he can continuously ask for it at every turn. Man knows what he wants, to fly like a Rito, eat like a Goron, look like a Gerudo and gently caress like a Zora. Truly the champion of all races.
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Apr 20, 2023 02:45
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MonsterEnvy posted:Revali has the problem of being dead however. Did you actually see him die? Didn't think so. Everyone just assumes he's dead because of his spirit ghost. In the year 2040, gamers will discover that if you clip through the ground, you can find Revali in a cave deep underground.
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Apr 20, 2023 02:47
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He gives you a rusty broadsword
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Apr 20, 2023 02:49
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The Maroon Hawk posted:He gives you a rusty broadsword Is that what Hyruleans call a rusty trombone?
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Apr 20, 2023 03:12
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Asterite34 posted:Is that what Hyruleans call a rusty trombone? oh, no it's far worse
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Apr 20, 2023 03:19
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Asterite34 posted:Is that what Hyruleans call a rusty trombone? Kass’ ears perk up, though he doesn’t know why
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Apr 20, 2023 04:11
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Does Kass have perkable ears?
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MonsterEnvy posted:Revali has the problem of being dead however. He lives on in my heart whenever someone doesn't use their turn signal or takes their sweet time ordering off a menu.
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Apr 20, 2023 05:16
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