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toadee posted:Anyone else just having a much better ranked experience this season? I have been getting obliterated after the SRs bumped back up. I also have had 2 leavers on my team in 10 games and lots of people "coaching", so it seems worse for me. I'm sure it will stabilize after I derank a little. e: to be fair I am playing support, which I haven't played in a few seasons. Positioning is hard. headcase fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Apr 19, 2023 |
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im having a much better season but im mostly attributing it to remembering that AD strafing exists
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i did it i'm a dva main now https://i.imgur.com/yD0UpKE.mp4
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Since the new season began, I've played maybe 60 or 70 matches, with about 20 good games and the rest evenly split between winstomps and losestomps. The losestomps seem to be mostly from leavers, random afkers, and having a single bronze 5 player in a plat lobby.
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Apr 19, 2023 21:55
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Just casually grinding QP and I got maybe five wins in four hours of playing last night. Doesn't feel much different than from OW2 release. I used to at least place in comp since OW1 but I don't anymore. Ranked Mystery Heroes brought me back but now that it's gone I'll probably quit again once I finish the BP unless my normal duo wants to keep playing.
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Apr 19, 2023 22:16
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So if you have the "Role Challenger" title it means you ranked in that role right? Just checking because I just had a grandmaster and master in my QP game and it was enough to make me stop playing OW and go do something else for a while. I know they may not be playing their grandmaster role or character or whatever but come the gently caress on. For reference I'm Gold.
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An enemy Hanzo typed “ez” in chat after the first fight. We came back and won. Then he starts crying about trash healer no heals lol
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PantsBandit posted:So if you have the "Role Challenger" title it means you ranked in that role right? Just checking because I just had a grandmaster and master in my QP game and it was enough to make me stop playing OW and go do something else for a while. yeah i had a gm ranked dps playing tank with me in gold the other day with the title and it was an absolute massacre despite most of the opposing team being diamond in their roles. he was super fun and supportive and i forget sometimes how much people who are genuinely good at the game are incredibly non toxic. it helps that a good tank makes support a lot easier as a role
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appropriatemetaphor posted:An enemy Hanzo typed “ez” in chat after the first fight. You know my man was slamming "I NEED HEALING"
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PantsBandit posted:So if you have the "Role Challenger" title it means you ranked in that role right? Just checking because I just had a grandmaster and master in my QP game and it was enough to make me stop playing OW and go do something else for a while. Doesn't mean they're that rank in the role they're in in your game, and they can further skew it by grouping with much lower rank friends.
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Aexo posted:Doesn't mean they're that rank in the role they're in in your game, and they can further skew it by grouping with much lower rank friends. Even if someone isn't grandmaster in their particular role you can pretty much assume they have good to great aim and a ton of game sense. It doesn't make me feel much better that they might be slightly less versed in a particular character's play.
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mercy's gun actually does decent dps. all you'd have to do is increase weapon swap speed, but seeing their mercy shoot would tilt the worst kind of ladder player
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Sounds like it's mainly QP that's broken matchmaking which sucks because what I like to play is QP.
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Comp matchmaking also sucks.
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Rick posted:Sounds like it's mainly QP that's broken matchmaking which sucks because what I like to play is QP. From my experience, the group matchmaking in QP is particularly awful and it's pretty clear they need to MMR-match tanks regardless of "group mmr" differences. A good tank can effectively solo carry a team. Those are the games where the tank has 2-3x the damage and elims of his dps. This is more or less my experience with my friends' group (2 diamonds + 2 plats). Feels like most games in Comp are close, while QP is a stomp in either direction. Biggest QP mismatches are dive tank (especially masters+ doomfist) or high rank mccree + low rank pocket. What confuses me is the Comp queues are usually the same length as QP.
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Group matchmaking seems to heavily focus on matching party size over MMR averages. 2-3 people you'll likely get a decent enough match in comp or QP, but 4+ going back to OW1 it just feels like the wild west of either getting turbo-hosed or spending your time in voice with your buds waiting for the enemy team to respawn and feed one at a time.
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I got some sort of pass or bundle with my new video card for this so I figured it's a good time to check out OW2. What's a good newbie character to start off with? I played some OW1 years ago but I don't remember much.
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Tagichatn posted:I got some sort of pass or bundle with my new video card for this so I figured it's a good time to check out OW2. What's a good newbie character to start off with? I played some OW1 years ago but I don't remember much. if you're not great at aiming theres Torbjorn, Mei, Symmetra, and Junkrat for damage. Mercy is probably the easiest healer to heal with, while I'd say moira is typically the best healer at staying alive (who also doesn't rely much on aim)
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Tagichatn posted:What's a good newbie character to start off with? d0grent posted:Torbjorn, Mei, Symmetra, and Junkrat for damage. Mercy is probably the easiest healer to heal with, while I'd say moira is typically the best healer at staying alive (who also doesn't rely much on aim) Tank: Reinhardt. Sigma is also a great tank if you get decent with aiming his projectiles. I wouldn't recommend tanking in OW2 until you've played a week or so, as it feels faster pace than OW1. You have to play around cover more, because there's no offtank to cover you when your shields break. Damage: Mei and Torb are both great with poor aim, and also quite tanky with their abilities. If you want to practice your aim, play Soldier and (probably) lower your mouse sensitivity so one horizontal mouse swipe is a 180-degree turn (I'm lazy and do 270-degree turn since I play a lot of flankers). Symmetra is aim-dependent these days. Her beam requires tracking and her orb (right-click charge attack) requires prediction. Beginner Junkrats are only effective in maps with narrow corridors/chokes (eg Kings' row). Support: Mercy is easiest, followed by Moira (as dogrent mentioned). Honestly just play whichever support you enjoy, I think only Ana really requires aiming (you should usually be healing with right-click/scope), and the heal hitbox is incredibly forgiving.
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van fem posted:I think only Ana really requires aiming (you should usually be healing with right-click/scope), and the heal hitbox is incredibly forgiving. Bap is the most aim intensive IMO
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sym and junk aren't as forgiving as mei/torb but in beginner lobbies the sym turrets do a lot of work, and junkrat just has a stupidly effective ult.
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I'd say early players should focus on support, just because you can sit back and watch your teammates do stupid poo poo and learn what stupid poo poo to not do. Also keeps you from blaming the healers for things that are probably your fault.
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d0grent posted:sym and junk aren't as forgiving as mei/torb but in beginner lobbies the sym turrets do a lot of work, and junkrat just has a stupidly effective ult. Junk ult is great at low ranks because no one can figure out that you can listen to hear where it's coming from and then shoot it. They simply refuse! Also dang p. significant changes for LW already https://twitter.com/GW_Alec/status/1649128886301782017
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Parting Gift was hilariously useless.
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Tagichatn posted:I got some sort of pass or bundle with my new video card for this so I figured it's a good time to check out OW2. What's a good newbie character to start off with? I played some OW1 years ago but I don't remember much. I don't know if you linked your account or not, but you'll be trained to a very limited selection until you do.
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PantsBandit posted:Parting Gift was hilariously useless. I mean I guess it was Fine as an occasional bonus but why did they ever let it heal enemies?
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I imagine it was them repurposing the script from Reaper's old healing orbs. Which are long, long gone for the best.
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Thanks for the suggestions! I did ok with Reinhardt.
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Pattonesque posted:I mean I guess it was Fine as an occasional bonus but why did they ever let it heal enemies? Yeah by my description an ability that you can't actively work into strategy is useless, but it becomes objectively useless when they let them heal enemies.
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How does competitive mmr work? I'm trying it and i'm with platinums getting dunked. edit: lol was against a "top 500 soujourn" smurf apparently, literally just head shotting the whole team Had me of no rank and a couple bronze players appropriatemetaphor fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Apr 21, 2023 |
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appropriatemetaphor posted:How does competitive mmr work? It doesn't.
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Jack Trades posted:It doesn't. lol, yeah qm seemed at least kinda fair matches
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I don't know what the gently caress but the last couple of months the game has consistently given me a streak of 5-10 losses followed by a streak of 5-10 wins. Consistently, like clockwork. It's not even me tilting and playing badly, because those losses and wins can easily be spread out over the course of 2, 3, 4 days. In the end I'm still winning slightly more often than I'm losing, but the fact that all the losses consistently come in one big streak gets extremely tiring. Even more so when half of the victories are also just pure one-sided stomps, which isn't particularly enjoyable either. I don't know if it's caused by them adjusting MMR too fast or too slowly, or whatever, but they should loving quit that.
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Dunno if it's that I've played more quickmatches vs competitive and my mmr is more correct in quickmatch, but those matches seem to have evened out. Like quite a few of real nail-biters and lots of people go "gg wow" or whatever at the end even on the losing side. People also always give those "kudos" points things. Played like 5 matches in comp and had to disable chat because people were crying about my damage numbers and telling me to uninstall. Like what am I supposed to do vs Plat/Diamond/Master players?? I barely know the buttons! Also got zero kudos points!
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If you ask me, the population is struggling. I've had masters/grandmasters in probably >50% of my matches the last few days. Including one where one guy I was playing with was bronze. If a bronze and a master can get into a game together (even if it's just qp) it indicates to me that there is a real population issue on both ends of the spectrum.
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socialsecurity posted:I'm gonna be honest about my badness here, I almost never zoom in as Ana. In fact I am usually way too much forward and use her gun as a point blank shotgun. I really like the sleep dart/nade so that's why I still even play her. same and its fun, although i still tend to pick Lucio cuz playing him is easier and i like picking up respawns and bringing them back to battle
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Knocking Wifeleaver off of his flower as Brig doesn't help a whole lot tactically, but goddamn is it fun.
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Pattonesque posted:Junk ult is great at low ranks because no one can figure out that you can listen to hear where it's coming from and then shoot it. They simply refuse! To be fair on PS5 the callout is bugged and doesn't always go off. Same with the Hanzo wolf howls on that skin. van fem posted:From my experience, the group matchmaking in QP is particularly awful and it's pretty clear they need to MMR-match tanks regardless of "group mmr" differences. A good tank can effectively solo carry a team. Those are the games where the tank has 2-3x the damage and elims of his dps. This makes sense to me. I used to play every night but I kept playing the same diamond tank all the time and I'm a bronze player.
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Worked my way out of bronze support was an enlightening experience after being dumped there from plat, really for the most part mechanically people aren't bad, its mostly people not switching/not paying attention to the rest of the team/weirdly like a dozen DVA one tricks that keep super far back pelting people for like 2 damage from 30 meters.
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Playing Ramattra with a competent Support on my team (especially if it's an Ana) makes my balls feel big.
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