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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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MonkeyLibFront posted:You say this like it's a new phenomenon for NATO, every war game that's been had was that we would run out of ammo in weeks/days at current production rates, what NATO countries need to do is actually ramp up production and not just hand over units at peace time rates. For example, small arms and artillery shells are on a normal rate at the BAE factory in the UK, they are scaled to ramp up to 24 hour production if necessary, they haven't so far, I would assume that the US also has clauses in their munitions factory contracts that allow them at cost to ramp up without penalty.
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Apr 21, 2023 04:44
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https://www.brusselstimes.com/463598/macron-working-on-secret-plan-with-china-to-end-ukraine-war lol Jupiter
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Apr 21, 2023 04:46
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CODChimera posted:https://twitter.com/ForeignPolicy/status/1649133336600670212 
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Apr 21, 2023 04:50
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so I guess all the [TBD] stuff in the leaks was literal, huh
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Apr 21, 2023 04:57
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Cheque still hasn't arrived in Kiev, again? Ah what a shame. Don't worry zelensky I'll call finance and have them write out another one and pop it into the post first thing Monday morning. You know how mail is these days, very unreliable. (Reaches down, unplugs phone from wall)
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Apr 21, 2023 04:59
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calling off an offensive because you have no weapons, trained men, or supplies feels a bit too sensible for Ukraine. I'm guessing this is an attempt to throw Russia off the scent.
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Apr 21, 2023 05:02
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it's going to be wild when we get a ceasefire with around the same territory lines as we currently have. people will lose their minds
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Apr 21, 2023 05:03
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Comrade Koba posted:so I guess all the [TBD] stuff in the leaks was literal, huh Actually I think you'll find TBD stands for totally badass devastator CODChimera posted:it's going to be wild when we get a ceasefire with around the same territory lines as we currently have. people will lose their minds Why would Russia agree to this?
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Apr 21, 2023 05:05
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Slavvy posted:Actually I think you'll find TBD stands for totally badass devastator because they aren't actually morder and its likely both sides are outta gas
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Apr 21, 2023 05:14
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I don't think Russia is truly out of gas any time soon, and it's hard to imagine a way out of this that doesn't include a significant demilitarised zone to help prevent decades of stochastic terrorism in the future.
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Apr 21, 2023 05:17
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Europe is out of gas, russia has a lot of gas
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Apr 21, 2023 05:22
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CODChimera posted:because they aren't actually morder and its likely both sides are outta gas Why is that likely If they aren't out of gas, what incentive do they have to make any concessions at all
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Apr 21, 2023 05:22
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Regrettably both sides claim that time’s on their side and the other guys will crumble any moment now. This is gonna be a long rear end thread.
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Apr 21, 2023 06:10
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CODChimera posted:it's going to be wild when we get a ceasefire with around the same territory lines as we currently have. people will lose their minds It will, but mainly because I can't imagine anyone wants to live with rocket artillery falling on their neighborhood every day.
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Apr 21, 2023 06:33
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It wouldn't solve anything for the Russians, they need to (and should) keep on shelling regardless. More recently, Russians have been pretty aggressive in hitting targets recently well behind the front line, and I would say as long as the Ukrainians are the worst of it, there is no real reason for the Russians to stop. Also yeah, even though Bakhmut (I am just going to use the old name for clarity) is going slowly, but the Ukrainians are in a really a pretty desperate position there as well. But yeah, it has come up before, but whenever the war is going slowly, the expectation is both sides will come to a ceasefire because "it is a silly war with nothing at stake." It really isn't. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 07:00 on Apr 21, 2023 |
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Apr 21, 2023 06:37
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Slavvy posted:Why is that likely This and with the entire western diplomatic corps already opened their dumb collective mouths about their planned intentions towards Russia, repeatedly & loudly. There won't be a negotiation of any kind. That's cope from the self proclaimed cradle of civilisation thinking they can still talk their way out of this like they're negotiating a clothing deal with a garment factory.
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/business/status/1648954681752731650 Canadian teacher's pensions funds are going to bankroll the next three months of the war
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Apr 21, 2023 06:48
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DancingShade posted:the self proclaimed cradle of civilisation thinking they can still talk their way out of this 
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Apr 21, 2023 07:07
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dk2m posted:https://twitter.com/war_noir/status/1542474807132012546 back when the war was fun, when me and the boys would load up nuts to butts on the ol' rusty steed to steal russian hardware, there was some choice sidecar footage https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1499748267692892163 great vehicles to bop along a broken road on, i absolutely adore them, but i would prefer more armor if i was gonna get shot at. its absolutely not surprising video examples dried up after only a couple of months
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Apr 21, 2023 07:08
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Slavvy posted:Why is that likely They were extremely hesitant to call a mobilization and might be just as hesitant when it comes to sending in the mobiks to get blown up. But, nah, don't think Xi is going to solve this one.
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Apr 21, 2023 09:11
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please do not doubt nobel peace prize winner xi jinping
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Apr 21, 2023 09:15
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genericnick posted:They were extremely hesitant to call a mobilization and might be just as hesitant when it comes to sending in the mobiks to get blown up. But, nah, don't think Xi is going to solve this one. They don't want to send mobilized soldiers into a meat-grinder, but it doesn't mean they are just going to call it quits either. If anything, Russian strategy seems focused on reducing the combat potential of the AFU to the point that more professional troops can create openings for mobilized units. The issue the Russians had during the invasion wasn't defeating AFU units but holding territory and protecting supply lines. The Russians need the Ukrainians in a position to do it again. crepeface posted:please do not doubt nobel peace prize winner xi jinping For Xi to work his magic, the Ukrainians need to be abandoned to their fate by the West.
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Apr 21, 2023 09:24
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Russia can win by continuing to do what they're doing ie preserving their force and mulching Ukrainian troops until they run out of bodies and machinery while also trashing ukraines infra Ukraine can win by sweeping Russia out of the country with huge manpower intensive offensives backed by mass air power and artillery, reversing the entire course of the war Which of these looks closer to reality is largely determined by how many Ukraine flags your Twitter handle has
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Apr 21, 2023 09:58
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Slavvy posted:Russia can win by continuing to do what they're doing ie preserving their force and mulching Ukrainian troops until they run out of bodies and machinery while also trashing ukraines infra I think some in the West still expect that Russia will throw up its hands because "Putin is just some tin pot dictator that got into this on a lark" but eventually "calmer heads will prevail.' And in the end, a ceasefire will happen because this is "a meaningless brush war," not something that is actually core to Russian strategic interests. Furthermore, they assume that since the frontline hasn't moved that much means the "war has practically burned itself out." In reality, it is very clear that the war hasn't stopped, and the lack of movement doesn't mean tons of people aren't dying every day.
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Apr 21, 2023 10:44
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I hate how so many people's predictions of outcome depend entirely on their desires. Everyone is too optimistic! Give me a guy who says "I love [Zelensky/Putin] but he's hosed".
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Apr 21, 2023 11:01
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platzapS posted:I hate how so many people's predictions of outcome depend entirely on their desires. Everyone is too optimistic! Give me a guy who says "I love [Zelensky/Putin] but he's hosed". Ok here you go: I hate putin but he's going to win Note: I've kissed people I hate before
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Apr 21, 2023 11:03
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Slavvy posted:Ok here you go: I hate putin but he's going to win Thank you slavvy i am satisfied. On second thought I guess it's related because if you're doomed it's poor form to keep the war going.
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Apr 21, 2023 11:08
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You'd need to love someone to be all like, I love them but they're hosed. I don't think we even like like any of the involved leaders / governments. I dunno if putin is going to win - but I don't think there's ever been a way for ukraine to win - only ways for all of us to lose - and in the interim a poo poo ton of innocents and conscripts get turned to slurry and a country suffers such levels of demographic attrition and collapse it might very well just... die.
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Apr 21, 2023 11:11
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Apr 21, 2023 11:17
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Yeah, Putin is in reality pretty poo poo, but despite the incompetent planning of the first phase, this war really is about Russia as a whole more than it is about him, and any leader even somewhat loyal to the country would have eventually done the same. Anyway, Russia by pushing advertising for contract soldiers as well as gearing up its MIC seems to be signaling a long-term commitment to this war.
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Apr 21, 2023 11:21
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I know who is going to win: Raytheon shareholders. Someone I know holds shares and is giddy every time we talk about this.
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Apr 21, 2023 11:21
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AnimeIsTrash posted:during the intelligence leak several cum warrior thread posters also revealed they had security clearances @_@ predictable lol
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Apr 21, 2023 11:25
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AnimeIsTrash posted:during the intelligence leak several cum warrior thread posters also revealed they had security clearances @_@ lol that owns, forum previously modded by bellingcat founder is filled with nafo warriors
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Apr 21, 2023 11:30
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Putin sucks but results are results
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Apr 21, 2023 11:33
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Regarding the existential nature of this war for Russia: why haven't they declared a war if that is the case? Calling the SMO a war can still get your arrested and no draft has been issued. Seems like declaring war would be the first step if you feel your existence is threatened.
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Apr 21, 2023 11:37
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IAMNOTADOCTOR posted:Regarding the existential nature of this war for Russia: why haven't they declared a war if that is the case? Calling the SMO a war can still get your arrested and no draft has been issued. Because it doesn't gain them any specific advantage, and people call the SMO a war all the time in Russia.
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Ardennes posted:I think some in the West still expect that Russia will throw up its hands because "Putin is just some tin pot dictator that got into this on a lark" but eventually "calmer heads will prevail.' And in the end, a ceasefire will happen because this is "a meaningless brush war," not something that is actually core to Russian strategic interests. Furthermore, they assume that since the frontline hasn't moved that much means the "war has practically burned itself out." Like who? In terms of euros you have the psychos on one side and the grumblers on the other. Pretty sure everyone in the second group is aware that this won't end without significant territorial concessions, but you can't say it in the same ZIP code as a microphone while the first one is hyped up to have someone else fight WW3 over this.
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IAMNOTADOCTOR posted:Regarding the existential nature of this war for Russia: why haven't they declared a war if that is the case? Calling the SMO a war can still get your arrested and no draft has been issued. What would declaring it a war do?
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Apr 21, 2023 11:45
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genericnick posted:Like who? In terms of euros you have the psychos on one side and the grumblers on the other. Pretty sure everyone in the second group is aware that this won't end without significant territorial concessions, but you can't say it in the same ZIP code as a microphone while the first one is hyped up to have someone else fight WW3 over this. There are plenty of people somewhere in the middle that silently don't believe the Ukrainians can win but somehow the West can clinch somewhat of a victory out of it by the Russians not gaining meaningfully more territory (American liberals in particular). genericnick posted:What would declaring it a war do? The entire army gets a stat buff and higher leadership. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 11:50 on Apr 21, 2023 |
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genericnick posted:What would declaring it a war do? More epic sound track for the movie.
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