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bad booking is when the guy i like isnt immediately world champ justice for shawn spears
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Apr 22, 2023 02:13
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I hated how El Hijo del Vikingo didn’t beat Kenny Omega. Way to squander the AAA Megachampion, Tony Con.
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Apr 22, 2023 02:43
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Takashita got put into the top angle the company has going this week. Goons keep watching a slow boil and getting absolutely shocked when the water starts roiling like it came out of nowhere.
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Apr 22, 2023 02:46
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Please watch the content befor posting on it please and thank you
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Apr 22, 2023 03:08
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coconono posted:Please watch the content befor posting on it please and thank you I do. And I think the main reason I post here much less than I used to is that it's pretty clear the prevailing taste of the community and mine have diverged. It is somewhat frustrating/disappointing, but I'm trying not to lash out the way I have in the past. For the record, I'm glad Takeshita is finally getting pushed after months of what, to me, looked a lot like aimless stop/start where AEW/Khan kinda wanted him to be featured but didn't really want to put him over stars. I hope this leads to bigger things. I'm just not gonna hold my breath because I've been disappointed by AEW just as often as I love what I see.
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Apr 22, 2023 03:26
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Gaz-L posted:For the record, I'm glad Takeshita is finally getting pushed after months of what, to me, looked a lot like aimless stop/start where AEW/Khan kinda wanted him to be featured but didn't really want to put him over stars. I hope this leads to bigger things. I'm just not gonna hold my breath because I've been disappointed by AEW just as often as I love what I see. For what it's worth I hear you, even if I understand kinda what AEW is going for. You sign someone, you want to show them off. It's more or less a "coming soon" sign. The WWE likes to do a signing and just plop them right into the middle of poo poo. This is because Vince tears up scripts 5 minutes before the show. AEW has a story in mind, and it takes time before they're able to fully incorporate the new hotness into whatever they're building to. So unfortunately you get to check out a cool new wrestler while they take hard luck losses or get into really low stakes feuds with people at the bottom of the card. Maybe they get fed to Jade, which is a whole other can of beans. Either way, AEW is not going to stop everything and inject an unknown into a story that's humming along. Don't wanna risk derailing someone else. Bryan Danielson is the exception because he's Bryan Danielson. And hell--with him it was more teasing that he was championship level talent more than actually strapping him up.
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Apr 22, 2023 03:48
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Gaz-L posted:I do. And I think the main reason I post here much less than I used to is that it's pretty clear the prevailing taste of the community and mine have diverged. It is somewhat frustrating/disappointing, but I'm trying not to lash out the way I have in the past. I don’t think you’re wrong in your assessment. There almost always seems to be a cooling off period on new signees a few weeks after their debut. It can feel frustrating for sure. Sometimes it seems like it’s not their fault, like with Bandido apparently having visa issues, but other times it’s just how someone is being used. On the other hand, I guess I’d rather this then everyone who debuts gets pushed into a big program and wins a belt because then you start to feel like TNA putting your belts on anyone who left WWE right away.
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Apr 22, 2023 04:01
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I think you kind of just miss stuff. Takashita's start stop was them taking an unknown for the audience and building him up. The whole time he's "jobbing" they were showcasing him and doing these angles with Don. There has been a very intentional build around him and he's been getting hotter. Jay is very likely getting pushed hard because he's here as part of a story that is also in NJPW and they're doing another forbidden door. Komander isn't that good yet, just very good at a few moves. He'll get there but a big push would expose him. There are absolutely other debuts they have bungled. I think Athena has landed in a good spot but yeah, this might have always been the plan but she cooled off. You just picked some bad examples. Also as an aside the one surprise unknown debut who got a rocket, Action Andretti, has not been amazing Gumball Gumption fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Apr 22, 2023 |
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Apr 22, 2023 04:03
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Gumball Gumption posted:I think you kind of just miss stuff. Takashita's start stop was them taking an unknown from the audience and building him up. The whole time he's "jobbing" they were showcasing him and doing these angles with Don. There has been a very intentional build around him and he's been getting hotter. Jay is very likely getting pushed hard because he's here as part of a story that is also in NJPW and they're doing another forbidden door. Komander is very good but not the guy you push right now. He's worked really hard to expand his skillset and train with different people.
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Apr 22, 2023 04:08
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Gumball Gumption posted:I think you kind of just miss stuff. Takashita's start stop was them taking an unknown from the audience and building him up. The whole time he's "jobbing" they were showcasing him and doing these angles with Don. There has been a very intentional build around him and he's been getting hotter. Jay is very likely getting pushed hard because he's here as part of a story that is also in NJPW and they're doing another forbidden door. Yeah, I was actually typing up a response that Takeshita feels like a very bad example. Athena would also be my go to for actual bad/confusing booking. Because a huge deal was made of her, she was fed to Jade and then dissappeared. Like it felt like there was a build up with no pay off. I think in other threads folks would also be less cheeky about someone not being a fan of TK's booking. When it pops up here I think we're more likely to read it in an uncharitable way.
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Apr 22, 2023 04:40
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Coolness Averted posted:Yeah, I was actually typing up a response that Takeshita feels like a very bad example. Athena would also be my go to for actual bad/confusing booking. Because a huge deal was made of her, she was fed to Jade and then dissappeared. Like it felt like there was a build up with no pay off. Athena was off TV for a month and a half while she re-tolled her character. She debuted, was pushed into a title match, lost, and then shortly after with a new, better character got another push. It wasn't even really stop start, right after she was off TV they started the new character work!
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Apr 22, 2023 04:43
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athena 'disappeared' into being the current ring of honor champion, where she's been having killer match after killer match
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Apr 22, 2023 05:11
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flatluigi posted:athena 'disappeared' into being the current ring of honor champion, where she's been having killer match after killer match My incredibly lukewarm take is the AEW and ROH relationship is both really well done at times and muddled at others. Sometimes it's just treated another promotion, other times it's a direct extension.
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Apr 22, 2023 05:52
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if you're going to complain about "tk's booking" it doesn't make sense to discard how he thought Athena deserved to be the headliner champion of his new promotion and that's the key word: new. tk's roh has barely started walking on its own and building its own roster and focuses separate from aew. you can't really establish that separation when all you can do with roh is ppvs and showcase matches on aew programming, but now that it has a weekly show underway it's laying that groundwork
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Apr 22, 2023 06:07
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Gaz-L posted:I'm just not gonna hold my breath because I've been disappointed by AEW just as often as I love what I see. I agree with you/you're not alone in thinking that, for sure
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Apr 22, 2023 06:12
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Shinjobi posted:The WWE likes to do a signing and just plop them right into the middle of poo poo. ? WWE signs people then sticks them on NXT for 5 years.
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Apr 22, 2023 07:25
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Coolness Averted posted:I should probably clarify I was talking about AEW TV, not RoH and the webshows. If you don't follow both of those it's like she vanished, and iirc hasn't been seen in 2023. If you don't watch the show she's on she's barely on the show.
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Apr 22, 2023 07:28
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Lamuella posted:? I guess they do that too. Was thinking of Cody most recently, and [celebrity], and Ronda But yeah they the glut of em down to NXT
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Apr 22, 2023 07:46
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the big guy right now who wwe signed who they sent to nxt would dragon lee
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Apr 22, 2023 08:05
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Lamuella posted:If you don't watch the show she's on she's barely on the show. Maki Itoh sure doesn't wrestle much, huh?
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Apr 22, 2023 08:29
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Shinjobi posted:I guess they do that too. Was thinking of Cody most recently, and [celebrity], and Ronda I can accept that of people of the Cody-tier and above. But I would say that AEW also does this for people of that tier.. this isn't to say I don't have issues with how AEW sometimes uses its new people. There is frequently a short settling in period after someone gets signed, often because the person they're going to work their first real program against is finishing up something with someone else. And with a big roster you are going to get people who make a brief splash then find themselves in a bigger pool than they had been before. There's also the issue that as AEW rarely demands exclusivity they usually are letting their new guys work out their obligations to other companies before getting behind them heavily. So someone like Komander recently got his All Elite graphic, but has worked more dates for GCW than AEW this month. Not because AEW aren't behind him but because he already had those dates booked and is honouring his obligations. Same with Takeshita, who got the All Elite graphic in November but was given the chance to work the American indie dates he had booked and to keep up with his tours in DDT. Is there an argument here for doing the All Elite graphic later? Maybe.
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Apr 22, 2023 09:47
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Apr 22, 2023 11:20
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i also hate the entire concept of professional wrestling
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Apr 22, 2023 11:31
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Chris Jericho beat Goldberg with a facelock in his prime.
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Apr 22, 2023 11:40
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man, I'd love to see how over Takeshita would be in WWE in the same amount of time with a similar Win/Loss record being disappointed in how AEW pushes develop is one thing, but pretending it's even comparable to the void the fed drops everyone into is a joke
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Apr 22, 2023 12:24
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The337th posted:man, I'd love to see how over Takeshita would be in WWE in the same amount of time with a similar Win/Loss record Something I actually like about AEW’s booking is that they don’t just immediately throw guys into huge programs. They let them work a bit and get people used to them. Sometimes they wait a little too long but imo if you get over you will still be over when they turn the booking up as long as they didn’t make you look like a total geek. Wwe’s issue is that when they don’t use a guy they book them like a total geek. And if they do get over on their own they take away the thing that got them over in the first place.
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Apr 22, 2023 13:54
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Ganso Bomb posted:I don’t think you’re wrong in your assessment. There almost always seems to be a cooling off period on new signees a few weeks after their debut. It can feel frustrating for sure. Sometimes it seems like it’s not their fault, like with Bandido apparently having visa issues, but other times it’s just how someone is being used. I usually attribute this to new people needing to be integrated into the current plan. We know Tony Khan is a plan ahead booker, and he has to adapt when things don't go the way they're supposed to, and integrating new talent into his plans seems to take time for him. It seems to take a PPV cycle for new signings to get integrated into storylines and divisions properly, until then they go into a holding pattern where they don't win too much or the question would be, "Why aren't they getting any title shots?" but they don't get chumped out either, so you know they're going somewhere eventually.
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Apr 22, 2023 14:32
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El Generico posted:I usually attribute this to new people needing to be integrated into the current plan. We know Tony Khan is a plan ahead booker, and he has to adapt when things don't go the way they're supposed to, and integrating new talent into his plans seems to take time for him. It seems to take a PPV cycle for new signings to get integrated into storylines and divisions properly, until then they go into a holding pattern where they don't win too much or the question would be, "Why aren't they getting any title shots?" but they don't get chumped out either, so you know they're going somewhere eventually. This, basically
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Apr 22, 2023 16:27
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Apr 23, 2023 00:31
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I was an El Gigante fan as a kid so I can't criticize anyone for loving a terrible wrestler because they are very tall.
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Apr 23, 2023 02:16
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https://twitter.com/jodex96/status/1649915552125825025?t=IGhAvIfQGUJEZDvv7WDUNQ&s=19 Cody's back
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Apr 23, 2023 02:41
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Apr 23, 2023 04:43
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I so badly wanted that to turn into CD joining the BCC. 
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Apr 23, 2023 04:51
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BCC feels more like NJPW’s CHAOS unit during the early streaming era when it was this crew of badasses aligned in a general direction. Does not feel like Danielson calling the shots at all. But that’s just my willful interpretation of reality.
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Apr 23, 2023 07:09
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I think BCC is like TMNT. Mox is Raph, Yoots is Mikey, Claudio is Leo, and Danielson is Donny.
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Apr 23, 2023 14:16
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MJeff posted:I so badly wanted that to turn into CD joining the BCC. Someone pointed out to me that Blood and Guts is coming up - the Elite now has four members with a fifth in orbit, so BCC is likely picking up a fifth soon too.
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Apr 23, 2023 14:23
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idk, they could get Eddie back for one more B&G
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Apr 23, 2023 15:25
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Nativity In Black posted:I think BCC is like TMNT. Mox is Raph, Yoots is Mikey, Claudio is Leo, and Danielson is Donny. I think that you'll find if you listen to the rap from the end of the first movie that Raph is the leader of the group, transformed from the norm by the nuclear goop 
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