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tangy yet delightful posted:New patch seems to have done this to my Warp Nexus blessing (all tiers that I have anyway), hopefully it still works ingame
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Tried out my Plasma Gun again after the buff and oh. my. god. yes.  It works beautifully. Tbh just take Counterfire and mow through shooters with uncharged shots, maybe a cheeky charged shot if they're behind cover. Charged shot for gunners unless you're using Volley Fire, headshot uncharged works in Volley. Lets you delete maniacs and kill crushers, bulwarks and reapers far faster than MK12. Amazing for just ignoring hordes that are screening for actual threats, charged shot lets you reach out and touch things behind hordes. All that and you barely use any toughness to vent heat, Gets Hot! is now a very good blessing. Anecdotally it felt legit to just uncharged shot the Vortex Shield of an assassination target, it did huge chunks esp in Volley Fire. Probably not worth it still but makes a great weapon to delete specialists that can spawn in the train arena through hordes. The downside is that you still can't be as reactive as a Bolter Vet for getting rushed at or swarmed by a large group of big things and if you end up running out of ammo in your mag you lose Volley Fire no matter what. Same for Bolter I guess but you wouldn't take Counterfire with a bolter anyway. Also you can explode yourself I guess, but hey you can try for that psyker penance! Get on the Plasma train folks, it's a blast. 
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I have not figured out how not to have my heat up when 4 crushers appear. Also muscle memory means I just press F and unload into them. I’ve died twice to my gun exploding.
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Apr 19, 2023 15:46
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Played with mods last night, the For the Emperor button mod is fantastic. Also Player Outlines, cosmetic previews, and sorting the mission list by difficulty level. All stuff that should be in the game (and in the case of player outlines, was, briefly, before they removed it because it didn't work right?) but it's nice to see modders out there doing the needful.
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Apr 19, 2023 15:52
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Richard Bong posted:Also muscle memory means I just press F and unload into them. I’ve died twice to my gun exploding. Muscle memory means i ult whenever I walk into a dark area because I'm trying to throw a flare
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Apr 19, 2023 15:54
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big cummers ONLY posted:Muscle memory means i ult whenever I walk into a dark area because I'm trying to throw a flare Lol ain't that the truth
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Apr 19, 2023 15:56
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Richard Bong posted:I have not figured out how not to have my heat up when 4 crushers appear. Don't charge and you'll never die. If you just spam left mouse button you'll only vent some heat at 100% but not explode.
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Apr 19, 2023 17:25
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big cummers ONLY posted:Muscle memory means i ult whenever I walk into a dark area because I'm trying to throw a flare It took a long time to break this habit. Stanley Pain posted:Don't charge and you'll never die. If you just spam left mouse button you'll only vent some heat at 100% but not explode. I did not know that. That makes it a bit simpler. I guess that could be why I feel like I have so much downtime with this weapon, I’m making up reasons to not fire.
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Richard Bong posted:I have not figured out how not to have my heat up when 4 crushers appear. As long as you don't charge shot you will always autovent down to 80% if you're at 100%. I've def exploded myself at least once though so it's easy to get caught in the moment lol E;fb. Also I've rebound my ult button to Q on my kb because I genuinely struggled to go back to Apex afterwards lol.
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Growing kinda bored of power sword. What blessings do I want on an Antax Mk 5? I know Brutal Momentum, but what's the other choice? I have a Brutal Momentum IV sticker already.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Growing kinda bored of power sword. What blessings do I want on an Antax Mk 5? I know Brutal Momentum, but what's the other choice? I have a Brutal Momentum IV sticker already. Brittleness on hit is nice, power on hit is nice, you can really slam whatever on it as long as the Brutal momentum's there
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Mutants are so toothless after the patch, before I had most of my high intensity damnation shock trooper runs ended by 3ish mutants showing up during a horde and disabling the team while the horde covered for the mutants and made it hard to dodge, once everyone starts getting flung around it's hard to deal with that much HP, now it seems like mutants just clip through me and the dodge window is extremely generous.
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Apr 22, 2023 02:04
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Mutants are so toothless after the patch, before I had most of my high intensity damnation shock trooper runs ended by 3ish mutants showing up during a horde and disabling the team while the horde covered for the mutants and made it hard to dodge, once everyone starts getting flung around it's hard to deal with that much HP, now it seems like mutants just clip through me and the dodge window is extremely generous. They were bugged and couldnt grab anyone, it got patched today you can resume getting mutie hugs now
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40 Proof Listerine posted:Brittleness on hit is nice, power on hit is nice, you can really slam whatever on it as long as the Brutal momentum's there Decimator is another good one. The chained hit resets on block, but the push starts the first chained hit, so it stacks back up quickly and has a 2:1 power gain compared to Headtaker. My vet has decimator since the bad stamina regen means I won't be block/pushing much, psyker has headtaker since I do block/push a lot.
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BeeSeeBee posted:Decimator is another good one. The chained hit resets on block, but the push starts the first chained hit, so it stacks back up quickly and has a 2:1 power gain compared to Headtaker. My vet has decimator since the bad stamina regen means I won't be block/pushing much, psyker has headtaker since I do block/push a lot. My understanding is that even dodging resets the decimator counter, and if that's the case, head taker is very much better as it's easier to keep up max stacks. You (probably) end up with higher effective damage with head taker than decimator, as decimator gives you bad habits. If I'm wrong, decimator is much more competitive (but still less good than headtaker).
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The Antax is already over 100% pen on flak, so brittleness does literally nothing against anything but carapace. And yeah, Headtaker is way better than Decimator, it takes 8 consecutive swings without missing, pushing, dodging, or otherwise letting the stacks drop for Decimator to pull ahead.
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So I tested it and we're all a bit wrong. Pushing doesn't start the first chained hit, but the push attack does (so the next attack will gain the first stack) Dodging doesn't reset stacks The stacks build +1 for each attack after the first, so 6 attacks to reach 5 stacks, or 4 attacks to beat 5 stacks of Headtaker (+30% vs +25%) Seems to fall off about 1.25 seconds after not hitting anything, and immediately on missing, blocking. I ought to record a mission to see how often the buff falls off and when. BeeSeeBee fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Apr 22, 2023 |
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Edit: I completely hosed up the maths, enjoy the rewrite: Ok, first off from a standing start, no stacks. Headtaker starts gaining stacks on the first hit, so the second hit and beyond are buffed. Decimator gains stacks from the second hit onward, so the damage increase starts on the third hit. Decimator lags behind until the fourth chained hit, and overtakes on five.  Now, the deal breaker, every time your decimator stacks drop while your headtaker stacks would have stayed up, you need seven chained attacks to catch up, and eight or more to overtake. Realistically, thanks to breakpoint issues your mileage may vary, but by raw numbers decimator is a hard sell. The Huge Manatee fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Apr 22, 2023 |
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To add to the complexity of modeling, I was doing some more testing trying to get creature spawner to work (idk, can't get it to), and there's another interaction that works really well with brutal momentum. Apparently chained "attack" means hit because I was able to get 4 stacks of decimator with just 2 swings without much density. I think the first hit, no matter how many enemies you hit is the start of the chain, and then any following attack is enemies hit = stacks. https://i.imgur.com/3nhr3wp.mp4 I might keep jumping between the two for testing since it's the unlocked blessing. BeeSeeBee fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Apr 22, 2023 |
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Oh now that is very interesting, I thought only headtaker had that behaviour based on earlier testing.
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Got a nice group for penances last night. Now all I need is: -Heavyweight Champion -Pick n Mix -Just a Flesh Wound and I’ll have all of the character-specific penances. Of those I think Heavyweight Champion is the most difficult, since I really don’t want to load into haz5 shock gauntlets I know I’ll fail just to try to score it before I die. Maybe haz4 shock? Pick n Mix can be annoying too, I may want to find a group for that. The mid event on Comms-Plex is generally good for that one.
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Pick and mix is pretty easy if you do a hi-intensity shock gauntlet. Just make sure you have kinetic barrage and 6 warp charges.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Got a nice group for penances last night. Now all I need is: Don't do Shock for heavyweight, that just spawns more specialists. Tbh just running normal Damnation will get if for you, the game is not too shy about spawning groups of crushers now.
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Just play 1 normal damnation or hi intensity damnation and you will get hordes that have 8 or 9 ogryns
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My damnation games lately have been reliably showing me packs of 4, maybe even 5, but not yet 6. I’m sure I’ll get there.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:My damnation games lately have been reliably showing me packs of 4, maybe even 5, but not yet 6. I’m sure I’ll get there. You likely need a horde call as you see the first group. A lot of big fights now end up with 10+ ogryns over the course of a fight because they come in from spawn doors or other parts of the level. Still you can just get instalucky. Like I just got out of a mission with the excise vault and at the stairs down right after the first medicae station there was just 2 bulwarks, a reaper, and 5 crushers hanging out.
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Of the regular horde enemies which do you all find harder to deal with? Poxwalkers Scabs Dregs I find Scabs tend to shrug off hits sometimes when hit in the armor depending on the weapon which ends up in trading hits, both the scabs and the dregs have some loooong reach while chasing after you with their maces.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Of the regular horde enemies which do you all find harder to deal with? Whichever one has bare torsos but wears helmets is the one I find the most difficult Armored head limits my ability to quickly clear them with low damage cleaving headshots with weapons like devil's claw sword, meaning I have to cleave through their surprisingly beefy chests. And the nasty running attacks, as you mentioned - a group of three idiots can spike you very hard from surprise
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The bruisers are the most annoying, in either dreg or scab form. I find if I'm going to get downed due to some stupid melee nonsense its when I get a bunch of those guys attacking out of sync at an inopportune time cuz they do a lot of damage once they hit your health pool. In shop news, I am pretty sure one of their patches hosed up the armory as I was not seeing anything highly rated (note this could be RNG bias) but after the last patch I am seeing multiple 370 items per refresh across all my characters and 380s as well.
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Jerkface posted:You likely need a horde call as you see the first group. A lot of big fights now end up with 10+ ogryns over the course of a fight because they come in from spawn doors or other parts of the level. Still you can just get instalucky. Like I just got out of a mission with the excise vault and at the stairs down right after the first medicae station there was just 2 bulwarks, a reaper, and 5 crushers hanging out. just finished a consignment yard game where, in the room where you do the mid event on the cooling rod mission, we killed a lone crusher. seconds after he died a group of 5 crushers lumbered up the stairs and stood obligingly in a line. god drat it. one of these days, i'll hit 6.
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double post: love to get called racial slurs in chat (for apparently taking too much ammo? despite the fact that i was literally empty when i grabbed the box?). i'll just open the report player box - oh, right, this coop multiplayer game doesn't have that feature
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:double post: love to get called racial slurs in chat (for apparently taking too much ammo? despite the fact that i was literally empty when i grabbed the box?). i'll just open the report player box - oh, right, this coop multiplayer game doesn't have that feature Fun fact, the votekick option will show a nearly fullscreen, blocking, modal dialog, on each player's screen. Everytime a votekick is initiated. You can literally kill your teammates by trying to kick a troll by taking away their ability to do anything other than try to scramble out of the votekick dialog you shove in their faces. Oh and there's no cooldown on calling votekicks.
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Fishstick posted:Fun fact, the votekick option will show a nearly fullscreen, blocking, modal dialog, on each player's screen. Everytime a votekick is initiated. You can literally kill your teammates by trying to kick a troll by taking away their ability to do anything other than try to scramble out of the votekick dialog you shove in their faces. this has been patched quote:Other Fixes and Tweaks
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At least they fixed it instead of expecting modders to fix it, thats good I guess. Too bad it had to take so long. I don't keep up with most of the patch notes because all of it is basically secondary to "can I play more than half an hour without crashing to desktop" and the answer as of 2 weeks ago was still "nope"
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stability unfortunately comes and goes, experimental branch works generally better for me but crashing increased again with the last larger patch
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My performance dropped precipitously about three weeks after release and has never fully recovered but it’s playable and I can count the number of crashes I’ve had on the fingers of one hand. I guess it affects everyone differently. I think my problem is that I don’t have fios available in my zip code. My connection has never been that good.
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I haven't experienced a crash since the big store-closing update, but I still see plenty of pubbies get forcibly dropped-out during intensive parts of the game (usually when there's a lot of flames and lightning being thrown about). Hopin' against hope we see something interesting announced during Warhammer Fest.
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