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feedmyleg posted:No it shouldn't have had any of that dumb bullshit at all. Should have been about Obi-Wan on the fringes of society getting reluctantly pulled into helping exploited moisture farmers unionize against Jabba, or helping a group of Jawas fight off a group of corrupt Sandtroopers taking collection money, or helping a small town rid themselves of local gangsters or, hell, freeing slaves like he and Qui-Gon failed to do. Some real Man With No Name stuff, about a guy wanted by the Empire who felt like he has to attone for his sins by helping the people the Jedi never did. Now I’m picturing a show combining Obi-Wan’s character and the Tusken train plot from Book of Boba Fett, while eliminating both shows, and I wish I lived in that world. Like he wants to help this tribe who captured him, because he’s starting to understand them, but he also needs to get back to watching over Luke, so there’s that constant struggle. I’m trying to think if that contradicts how he treated the Tuskens in ANH, but he just fights off one group of them who attacked Luke, and says they’re not as efficient as Stormtroopers (which has always been a bit of an lol line), so I think it works fine. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Apr 23, 2023 |
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Risking fan-fiction territory, my ideal Obi-Wan show would have had flashbacks to a pre-Clones-era Anakin begging Obi-Wan to visit Tatooine to free his mother, with Obi-Wan spouting some nonsense about attachments and Anakin becoming resentful when denied. And also flashbacks to Anakin talking about his dreams of coming back to Tatooine to free the slaves. Then the present story would be about Obi-Wan haunted by his failures and trying to make it up to Anakin by follow through on what he and Qui-Gon should have done during TPM but failed to do because they were too wrapped up in Jedi bullshit. But then Disney would have had to substantively recognize the prequel films, and we can't have that. thrawn527 posted:says they’re not as efficient as Stormtroopers (which has always been a bit of an lol line), so I think it works fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2TA9coGLzM Though, yes it's a bit lol when we see sand people as sharpshooters in TPM. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Apr 23, 2023 |
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The mistake is in perceiving Obi Show as happening before A New Hope, when it’s actually a retroactive narrative bridge between Episode 3 and the “Sequel Trilogy”. As with Solo, Obi Show exists to smooth out the rough transition from the Lucas films to Episode 7 and 8 by insisting that things like The Resistance and The Knights Of Ren have always existed; we just didn’t see them. In this way, Obi Show and Solo covertly remake the Original Trilogy into something more in line with what the Disney films became. Episode 4 is ancillary, while 5 and 6 effectively don’t exist. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Apr 23, 2023 |
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The Sequel Trilogy movie's already hitting turbulent waterquote:An unnamed actor was supposedly part of his pitch to Lucasfilm, and we've previously heard that Yahya Abdul-Mateen II, who worked with Lindelof on Watchmen, was that star. Whoever it was is no longer part of the project as a result of rewrites which have either changed the role significantly or written the character out. It's also speculated that the actor chose to walk away when the writer did.
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lmao yes please give me another multi-year time gap in the plot Disney, it went so well last time!
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Apr 23, 2023 20:25
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Disney's time gap options: a) 15 to 30 years so we can act like the universe somehow reverted back to the same state as the start of the previous trilogy b) Literally the next day so you have to work with exactly the same stakes as the end of the last movie
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I'm shocked that Boyega is willing to reprise the role honestly.
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has that been confirmed? I also find it shocking and if it's actually happening, I wonder at what terms.
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He ain't coming back until Trilogy X ten years from now.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I'm shocked that Boyega is willing to reprise the role honestly. The dumptruck full of money or/and absolute guarantee of main character face of the franchise-ness must have been enormous to do that if it really happens.
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I'll believe it when I see it happen
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The lovely star wars rumor sites get to eat good again for a while. Anyway I don't think boyega coming back is that implausible. This scenario avoids him getting disney plus'd which was always his red line, maybe he can extract some kind of guarantee they won't do his character so dirty this time, and much like daisy ridley it's not like his career has been that wildly successful since (in my worthless opinion) No Mods No Masters fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Apr 24, 2023 |
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just make finn a jedi and let him actually do poo poo, and back up the money truck - that'd get boyega back imo and i'd want it
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have him be a force user good with a lightsaber but when people ask if he's a jedi now he says no, then looks in the camera and clarifies that he's still able to get laid unlike those guys
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Disney realized they haven't completely Fisher'ed Boyega yet and they cannot let that stand!
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Tell him he's gonna be a jedi then undo it all in post and film his reaction at the premiere
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Vim Fuego posted:Tell him he's gonna be a jedi then undo it all in post and film his reaction at the premiere There's Ray Fishering someone's role and then there's Terry Crewsing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uySrYIj8mhE
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Neo Rasa posted:There's Ray Fishering someone's role and then there's Terry Crewsing it. 
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thrawn527 posted:Now I’m picturing a show combining Obi-Wan’s character and the Tusken train plot from Book of Boba Fett, while eliminating both shows, and I wish I lived in that world. He doesn't even fight them off, he just makes a weird howling noise - you could retcon it that it wasn't to scare them off, it was just some cultural signal, that he was telling them in their own language that the kid's under his protection and they need to clear out.
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Neo Rasa posted:There's Ray Fishering someone's role and then there's Terry Crewsing it. Holy poo poo - I remember this. So loving bad. What a disaster of a movie.
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thrawn527 posted:Now I’m picturing a show combining Obi-Wan’s character and the Tusken train plot from Book of Boba Fett, while eliminating both shows, and I wish I lived in that world. There’s a good chance the Tusken plot from BoBF actually WAS that. All the early scripts and other behind the scenes info we’ve gotten of the Obi Wan project had it taking place all on Tatooine and heavily involved the Tuskens. Combined with how we know BoBF was cobbled together from pieces of other shows like Mandalorian S3, there’s a high probability Boba’s entire “going native” flashback plot that had no connection to anything else on the show yet took up a third of the runtime, was a repurposed version of the abandoned original Obi pitch.
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What a loving mess.
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Vintersorg posted:Holy poo poo - I remember this. So loving bad. What a disaster of a movie. It had some cool parts, at least. During the pandemic I decided to watch allll the Terminator movies and I feel like that one aged OK.
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Schwarzwald posted:...who ever complained that Grievous needed more explanation?! He gets basically the exact same introduction and level of backstory Vader does in A New Hope
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Glottis posted:It had some cool parts, at least. During the pandemic I decided to watch allll the Terminator movies and I feel like that one aged OK. The whole sequence starting at the gas station and leading into the Harvester and the Moto-Terminator chase is a great action setpiece.
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Inbetween Clone Wars seasons I decided to dabble in some Star Wars shows I'd never seen. Tales of the Jedi was surprisingly good. Like, they made Dooku an interesting character? And the action is kind of tasteful and understated. Conversely, Star Wars Visions loving sucks! I thought it was supposed to be several different animation styles but its one mildly interesting Kurosawa riff and then eight samey anime shorts that run from mediocre to godawful.
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I like Tales of the Jedi but I don't get why the first two Dooku episodes are essentially the same story.
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I didn’t realize Tales of the Jedi was out; I just looked at the episodes on Disney+ and a full half of them are about Original Character (Do Not Steal) Ahsoka? That pretty much kills my interest in the show. The old school Tales of the Jedi comics were sprawling epics and rad as gently caress, this new series bearing the moniker (and appears to be more like Tales of One Character) doesn’t deserve to share the name.
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Xenomrph posted:I didn’t realize Tales of the Jedi was out; I just looked at the episodes on Disney+ and a full half of them are about Original Character (Do Not Steal) Ahsoka? That pretty much kills my interest in the show. I assume the second season will cover new characters too.
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Xenomrph posted:I didn’t realize Tales of the Jedi was out; I just looked at the episodes on Disney+ and a full half of them are about Original Character (Do Not Steal) Ahsoka? That pretty much kills my interest in the show. weird thoughts. the star wars movies are all about original character (do not steal) luke skywalker and his dad, original character (stolen into slavery) anakin skywalker
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Wolfsheim posted:Inbetween Clone Wars seasons I decided to dabble in some Star Wars shows I'd never seen. Tales of the Jedi was surprisingly good. Like, they made Dooku an interesting character? And the action is kind of tasteful and understated. Conversely, Star Wars Visions loving sucks! I thought it was supposed to be several different animation styles but its one mildly interesting Kurosawa riff and then eight samey anime shorts that run from mediocre to godawful. that's how all those things tend to go, going as far back as the animatrix. i'm not sure there's been any one of these anime anthologies of a western property that has ended up as anything other than mediocre-at-best.
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ungulateman posted:weird thoughts. the star wars movies are all about original character (do not steal) luke skywalker and his dad, original character (stolen into slavery) anakin skywalker The things I like the most about the Star Wars franchise are the things that don’t focus strictly on Luke and his dad. It’s a big galaxy. Shoehorning Ahsoka into everything is lame. Make up new characters and don’t spend half the season of an anthology show on your OC (do not steal). And I’m saying this as a person that has had a Star Wars OC (do not steal) for roleplaying/gaming purposes for nearly a quarter century; I like my character, but even I know I gotta sideline him so other characters get a chance to shine.
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I would have liked to have seen other characters too but we're talking about three 15 minute episodes.
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Wolfsheim posted:Conversely, Star Wars Visions loving sucks! I thought it was supposed to be several different animation styles but its one mildly interesting Kurosawa riff and then eight samey anime shorts that run from mediocre to godawful. Star Wars Visions absolutely slaps. Terrible opinion. "Samey anime" - actually they all feature fairly different styles within the genre of what you'd call "anime". You wouldn't say that GI Joe & Courage the Cowardly Dog had the "samey american animation" style. Its hard to say something like Tatooine Rhapsody is the same style as The 9th Jedi or Akakiri or T0-B1. The 9th Jedi, The Duel, The Elder, The Village Bride, Lop and Ocho, The Twins and Akakiri were all top notch! That being said, if you're still going to be a person with bad taste and don't like anime there is a new season of Visions thats global coming out May 4th: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSXqU92cymY This has some more globally different styles of animation. Xenomrph posted:The things I like the most about the Star Wars franchise are the things that don’t focus strictly on Luke and his dad. It’s a big galaxy. Shoehorning Ahsoka into everything is lame. Make up new characters and don’t spend half the season of an anthology show on your OC (do not steal). There is going to be a new season of Tales of the Jedi focused on other characters ( do not steal )
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Jerkface posted:There is going to be a new season of Tales of the Jedi focused on other characters ( do not steal ) Watch Filoni have 3 episodes about Plo Koon.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Watch Filoni have 3 episodes about Plo Koon. Every episode has Ahsoka trying to find different ways to save Plo Koon, and every time she does, his death only gets worse and worse and worse
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Vinylshadow posted:Every episode has Ahsoka trying to find different ways to save Plo Koon, and every time she does, his death only gets worse and worse and worse Being blown up in their own fighter jets is Plo Kloon's peoples' way of entering paradise.
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Jerkface posted:Star Wars Visions absolutely slaps. Terrible opinion. "Samey anime" - actually they all feature fairly different styles within the genre of what you'd call "anime". You wouldn't say that GI Joe & Courage the Cowardly Dog had the "samey american animation" style. Its hard to say something like Tatooine Rhapsody is the same style as The 9th Jedi or Akakiri or T0-B1. The 9th Jedi, The Duel, The Elder, The Village Bride, Lop and Ocho, The Twins and Akakiri were all top notch! I legit do not understand why you'd let Takashi Okazaki design characters for the duel but not animate the short in his instantly recognizable style. What a strange move. Luckily if you enjoyed "the duel" they let him do a one shot comic in his style that acts as companion piece with the same characters. It rules, total love letter to everything from sam jackson to moebius and is a really short self contained read. (the translation isn't the strongest, marvel kinda cheaped out on that I guess) Confusingly it's named "star wars visions #1" despite being a one shot, cuz again, marvel. e: also context: Takashi Okazaki is the creator of Afro Samurai
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Xenomrph posted:I didn’t realize Tales of the Jedi was out; I just looked at the episodes on Disney+ and a full half of them are about Original Character (Do Not Steal) Ahsoka? That pretty much kills my interest in the show. You're telling me the guy who has read every single xenomorph spinoff comic series is too good for 45 minutes of Ahsoka content Jerkface posted:Star Wars Visions absolutely slaps. Terrible opinion. "Samey anime" - actually they all feature fairly different styles within the genre of what you'd call "anime". You wouldn't say that GI Joe & Courage the Cowardly Dog had the "samey american animation" style. Its hard to say something like Tatooine Rhapsody is the same style as The 9th Jedi or Akakiri or T0-B1. The 9th Jedi, The Duel, The Elder, The Village Bride, Lop and Ocho, The Twins and Akakiri were all top notch! Ehhhhhh I'll give you that the Kurosawa one, the Astro Boy one and the final one all have a pretty distinct style but the rest all just kinds of blend together into "an episode of something like Inuyasha but they're called Jedi instead of Demon Warriors." The bunny girl one is especially egregious in the realm of 'change two things and you'd never know it was Star Wars' and the twins one is peak anime 'super teens screaming random poo poo at each other while colors happen and then it ends' And like 6/9 of them just do "what if the lightsaber....was a samurai's blade?!" but like...yeah? That connection was already very overt in A New Hope. You've made the subtext text!
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