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Morrow posted:We said the same thing after Beck or Hannity. There will be a new Muppet in the same timeslot spouting the same rhetoric. It's Jesse Watters' time to shine.
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Prism posted:Always take screenshots. This is gone. My apologies. I checked multiple sources and it seemed legit so I figured that it would stick around. I'll try to keep screenshotting in mind next time.
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Did any of the major personalities mention, on air, a mea culpa in reference to Dominion? Could have been part of the settlement and Fox is terminating anyone that doesn’t comply. Pure speculation. The settlement is not public, but they did confirm that Fox agreed to apologize and take steps to address the problem. Nobody from Fox has issued an on-air apology, but the company did release a press statement saying it regrets the situation and issuing a very mild apology. There's no info on whether staff changes were included, but that would be very unusual for a settlement against the entire organization to require agreeing to immediately fire one specific on-air performer with no correction.
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Judgy Fucker posted:Yeah, I hadn't really thought of it, but I think you're right. Kill the filibuster for two years when they next have a trifecta, then pull the ladder up behind them right before they lose the Senate and dare the decorum-poisoned Democrats to do the same as them. It's the exact same logic as McConnell refusing to hear Garland's appointment to the SCOTUS: sure, the Democrats could pull the same maneuver on us, but they won't, so why shouldn't we do this? Democrats would definitely kill the filibuster again if Republicans do it first. Garland was a pretty rare situation in which their primo conservative judge died during an election year, so Democrats are not very likely to have the same situation happen anytime soon. Judgy Fucker posted:Why not? Do you believe Democrats would be willing to steal a SCOTUS seat like McConnell or no? Now, yes. Before Republicans did it, maybe not. There is no reason for them not to considering the now historical precedent and political gain. small butter fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Apr 24, 2023 |
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Tucker's been fired?! https://abc7ny.com/tucker-carlson-leaving-fox-news-out-leaves-dominion-lawsuit/13180147/ quote:NEW YORK -- TV host Tucker Carlson and Fox News have "agreed to part ways," Fox said in a statement Monday.
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Apr 24, 2023 16:58
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It's probably a combo of things: the text leaks where he calls all his viewers and Trump morons, the fact that while he was the biggest draw on cable news, they couldn't sell ad space to anyone but Mike Lindell, the fact that $787m is a good chunk of revenue for even Fox News, etc.
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is pepsi ok posted:I definitely wouldn't frame it as pro choice, but he absolutely has broken from the Republican establishment messaging on abortion, specifically that overturning Roe was a (political) mistake and that from here everything should be left up to the states. The latter got him some blowback from pro-life groups who want to push for a national ban. As of this week, that is the official position of Congressional Republicans. So, Trump was ahead of the game and is in sync with the GOP establishment position.
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Let the door hit your rear end on the way out and knock you into a thresher, Tuck.
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Apparently so https://twitter.com/AP/status/1650527867527200769?t=NGwYXh5ee452OcYO1emgeA&s=19
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Automata 10 Pack posted:Tucker's been fired?! https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1650525755892219905 Sure sounds like he thought he was doing a show tonight.
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Dick Trauma posted:My apologies. I checked multiple sources and it seemed legit so I figured that it would stick around. I'll try to keep screenshotting in mind next time. It is legit, but the original Tweet had a spelling error and looks like he deleted it and reposted it.
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Morrow posted:We said the same thing after Beck or Hannity. There will be a new Muppet in the same timeslot spouting the same rhetoric. Yeah, but that's like saying there's a backup quarterback who has a helmet and pads and throws the ball. It's true, but Fox certainly behaves as though he's a more effective messenger for their their chosen rhetoric than the back benchers.Do you think there's someone else that's going to get the same engagement for white nationalist talking points, who we only hear of less because they don't have the same time slot?
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PhazonLink posted:wait is Hannity not on Fox? He still is. He got bumped out of the primetime slot for several years, but was promoted back to 9 pm after Bill O'Reilly got fired.
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also lol at Tuck, a non news program host/face being reported by not only NPR's hourly news brief, but other npr show hosts.
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Charliegrs posted:Laura Ingraham is still on Fox right? Pretty sure she's a barely closeted Nazi. She will probably get Tuckers spot. I mean, they keep trying to close the closet door but it keeps hitting her outstretched arm. She was the one that outright sieg heiled Trump during the 2016 election, right?
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Killer robot posted:Yeah, but that's like saying there's a backup quarterback who has a helmet and pads and throws the ball. It's true, but Fox certainly behaves as though he's a more effective messenger for their their chosen rhetoric than the back benchers.Do you think there's someone else that's going to get the same engagement for white nationalist talking points, who we only hear of less because they don't have the same time slot? I hear they got this guy at their AAA club who is just insanely white nationalist, he's already putting up insane raceWAR numbers.
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It will be interesting to hear what the entire background behind this was. So far, no other hosts have been penalized by Fox and it is extremely unlikely that Dominion's settlement included a requirement to fire any specific person, let alone just Tucker. Tucker's producer recently left the show and sued Fox for sexual harassment and discrimination on Tucker. Unclear if that is related, though.
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Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:It's Jesse Watters' time to shine. Yeah him or Laura Ingraham seem like likely heirs to Tucker's spot. So not a huge improvement, but it's certainly a pleasure to see one more empty seat over there. And he's had such a long history and certainly deserves the dishonor. It's entirely possible his replacement will be just as good as being bad... But it's also possible they won't. Fingers crossed.
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I believe this makes Tucker Carlson the only person ever to have a primetime show cancelled on every single national cable news network.
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Countdown begins till Tucker’s ‘I’ve been cancelled’ tour.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It will be interesting to hear what the entire background behind this was. So far, no other hosts have been penalized by Fox and it is extremely unlikely that Dominion's settlement included a requirement to fire any specific person, let alone just Tucker. Everything right now indicates it was extremely abrupt https://twitter.com/srl/status/1650527565671542784 Can't rule out some additional scandal that we are as yet unaware of.
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My current theory is that they pulled him into an emergency meeting and told him to tone it down, and his reaction left them with no other choice. He’s probably used to wielding a lot of backroom power and wasn’t ready for it to be taken away by the settlement
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zoux posted:When you cost the boss $787m.... Won't he just end up going to the other chud channel? ONN? OAN? Whatever the one is for people who think Fox is too left leaning? Sure, it's not going to bring Fox down in a blaze of glory, but it isn't like Tucker has to go home and live off his "heir to a TV dinner dynasty" money.
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haveblue posted:My current theory is that they pulled him into an emergency meeting and told him to tone it down, and his reaction left them with no other choice. He’s probably used to wielding a lot of backroom power and wasn’t ready for it to be taken away by the settlement The biggest offenders in the Dominion suit were Maria Bartiromo, Hannity, and Lou Dobbs. Tucker was just the most successful one, but he actually wasn't the most egregious. If they don't do anything to Bartiromo, Hannity, or Dobbs, then this was likely not primarily because of the Dominion suit.
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the_steve posted:Won't he just end up going to the other chud channel? ONN? OAN? Whatever the one is for people who think Fox is too left leaning? Not sure he's going anywhere with outstanding litigation. Might just do a podcast for a year.
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the_steve posted:Won't he just end up going to the other chud channel? ONN? OAN? Whatever the one is for people who think Fox is too left leaning? zoux posted:I hear they got this guy at their AAA club who is just insanely white nationalist, he's already putting up insane raceWAR numbers.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I believe this makes Tucker Carlson the only person ever to have a primetime show cancelled on every single national cable news network. Impressive, the EGOT of white supremacy mouthpieceing
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the_steve posted:Won't he just end up going to the other chud channel? ONN? OAN? Whatever the one is for people who think Fox is too left leaning? We're talking about audiences in the low 100ks at best, he was drawing 3.5m a day on Fox, there is no better place he can go. I'm sorry, you're just going to have to accept that this is unalloyed good. https://twitter.com/donlemon/status/1650533617636966400 Bad day to be a piece of poo poo cable news anchor, it seems
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I guess we'll see if the time slot is the most important factor in creating an iconic Fox hatemonger. If it could do it for Carlson it can probably work for anyone they stuck in front of the camera at that time.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I believe this makes Tucker Carlson the only person ever to have a primetime show cancelled on every single national cable news network. Didn't Pirro and Bartiromo get shitcanned in the last couple of weeks as well? Edit: zoux posted:Pirro and Bongino. Ah; my bad. Aegis fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Apr 24, 2023 |
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Pirro and Bongino https://twitter.com/jackmjenkins/status/1650531186970591232 Post is reporting that him talking all that poo poo that came out in discovery is what did it, but I don't buy that.
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Aegis posted:Didn't Pirro and Bartiromo get shitcanned in the last couple of weeks as well? Yup, slow realization at fox that if they leave garbage out it’s gonna attract raccoons.
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Aegis posted:Didn't Pirro and Bartiromo get shitcanned in the last couple of weeks as well? No. There was a rumor that went around that they had, but it was based on one person's speculation that they might be fired, iirc
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Rumor has it he reacted to his firing with the same dumbfounded open-mouthed gape he has in reaction to everything else.
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zoux posted:Pirro and Bongino It seems very unlikely that this was the main reason. But, it would be very on brand if Fox fired him not because of the stuff he said on air, but because he was using work email to talk poo poo about his boss and the court case brought it to their attention.
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zoux posted:Pirro and Bongino My guess is they're trying to appease shareholders by showing them that they're taking steps to avoid another half-billion settlement in their next suit vs. Smartmatic.
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Yiggy posted:Yup, slow realization at fox that if they leave garbage out it’s gonna attract raccoons. That's slander. Raccoons can be cute.
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zoux posted:We're talking about audiences in the low 100ks at best, he was drawing 3.5m a day on Fox, there is no better place he can go. I'm sorry, you're just going to have to accept that this is unalloyed good. So Twitter being the poo poo show it is these days I can't tell if this is real.
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Oracle posted:My guess is they're trying to appease shareholders by showing them that they're taking steps to avoid another half-billion settlement in their next suit vs. Smartmatic. I could buy that if they were canning some of their lower-level talent or dropping a bunch of them all at the same time, but Tucker is their flagship personality and their most-watched show. Even for appeasement of the shareholders, I find it hard to believe they would fire just him. Granted, there could be more firings on the way, but obviously we're a little starved for info beyond, "Hey, this wild thing just happened."
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