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Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


Jobbo_Fett posted:

Bring a snack, bring water/a drink for sure

Had a nasty set of hecklers in the NCR yesterday, I've heard stories of someone playing porn/masturbation videos/audio (though not sure if that happened in Orleans or out west.) Parliament had an anti-vaxx dude screaming at people about changing your DNA.




Oh, and bring a chair just in case. Gets hard on the feet after a while.

CF raises are tied to the public service union, are they not? I wonder if any of the chucklefucks heckling have any understanding that what you are doing is also hopefully going to result in raises for CF personnel.

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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Fearless posted:

CF raises are tied to the public service union, are they not? I wonder if any of the chucklefucks heckling have any understanding that what you are doing is also hopefully going to result in raises for CF personnel.

The public service getting a raise helps the military and just people in general. When the PS gets a raise, people take notice - because the collective agreements being publicly available is the measuring stick people use.


Edit: Heard at least one person with a great argument I support, which is that pay raises should be weighted based on how much you already make. As much as the "fairness" of everyone getting an increase of XX%, I think every fucker already making 100k+ can shut the gently caress up.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
100k doesn’t go as far as it used to in the big cities.

Everyone’s salaries should go up. Tax the people who don’t get salaries more. (I mean the independently wealthy).

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


Vancouver's so hosed that doctors and nurses around VGH have to find roommates to afford to live there. The need is more acute at the lower end of the income spectrum, absolutely, but 100k does not go very far when your monthly rent is $2500.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
I was really hoping they’d have this bullshit resolved by Monday.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
So-so-so Solidarité!

mom and dad fight a lot
Sep 21, 2006

If you count them all, this sentence has exactly seventy-two characters.
Ugh my god I've been procrastinating for an hour because I just don't want to go to another one of these drat things.

I'm already losing money, but maybe I can sacrifice $75 today.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

mom and dad fight a lot posted:

Ugh my god I've been procrastinating for an hour because I just don't want to go to another one of these drat things.

I'm already losing money, but maybe I can sacrifice $75 today.

Quit whining and get your rear end on the line. We backed up traffic from downtown Montreal all the way to the suburbs, what are you doing for the cause?

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

You've stood outside in shittier conditions and less pay if you've spent a day in the CAF

Grab a pack of darts, a double double and get on the line.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Dont make me yell at you with a bullhorn. They gave me that today. Ill loving do it.

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


I'm losing a few weeks of per diem that would have been spent doing some cool as gently caress military stuff internationally. It's been in the works for a couple years and would have been valuable to overall warfighting capability but that's the cost of solidarity so smokkem if u gottem :clint:

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

FrozenVent posted:

Quit whining and get your rear end on the line. We backed up traffic from downtown Montreal all the way to the suburbs, what are you doing for the cause?

dont act too proud of yourself, thats just montreal traffic

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

My Spirit Otter posted:

dont act too proud of yourself, thats just montreal traffic

Nah man we got that poo poo up to pre-pandemic levels.

mom and dad fight a lot
Sep 21, 2006

If you count them all, this sentence has exactly seventy-two characters.

FrozenVent posted:

Quit whining and get your rear end on the line. We backed up traffic from downtown Montreal all the way to the suburbs, what are you doing for the cause?

We did something like this on thursday and was told by the RCMP to stop or they'll issue fines for impeding traffic.

Weather was nice today, at least. The previous 3 days, I stood out in wind and rain that were bad enough to knock out the power during a couple shifts. I think I'll bring the lawn chair tomorrow.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Oh the SPVM was closing traffic for us. Granted they made sure the arrest buses and riot trucks were visible but hey, they blocked traffic.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Oh my god the Coward Douglas Ford is trying to get rid of the post-secondary education requirement for Ontario cops

A whole lot of PTEs that barely passed high school just got rock hard erections. Looking forward to getting ASPd by Constable Bloggins

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe
Imagine giving your average CF private magnitudes more authority with zero accountability, what a terrible idea

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
I love it give me the capitalist boot daddy. What the world needs is undereducated overworked overpaid crime responders who also love to be racist chuds when the cameras are off

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Maybe I've been around some curiously high performing privates but in aggregate I'd sooner trust them to do a reasonable job than the flics.

The E-1s and 2s with a chip on their shoulder that get out because the world owes them someone to look down on though? Hoooo boy...

Hizawk
Jun 18, 2004

High on the Lions.

I legitimately like the PAR system, but it defintely seems to have an institutional problem about acknowledging and properly scoring a high performer.

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe

Guest2553 posted:

Maybe I've been around some curiously high performing privates but in aggregate I'd sooner trust them to do a reasonable job than the flics.

The E-1s and 2s with a chip on their shoulder that get out because the world owes them someone to look down on though? Hoooo boy...

I've got a ton of respect for jr NCMs (being a former one myself) but they're the way they are because they're disciplined to hell and actually face consequences for poo poo. Remove both of those factors and you don't have a great demographic for prospective cops

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.
Opp were bad enough before but no post secpndary requirement for pigs means im avoiding ontario forever.

MA-Horus posted:

Oh my god the Coward Douglas Ford is trying to get rid of the post-secondary education requirement for Ontario cops

A whole lot of PTEs that barely passed high school just got rock hard erections. Looking forward to getting ASPd by Constable Bloggins

im pretty sure you could hear the sound of releases going in.

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


My Spirit Otter posted:

Opp were bad enough before but no post secpndary requirement for pigs means im avoiding ontario forever.

Getting to the point where I can't think of a province or territory I actively want to live in, only ones I want to avoid to varying degrees of aggressiveness.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.
Im down to winnipeg(not the rest of mb) and newfoundland.

my morning jackass
Aug 24, 2009

Ontario police seemed pretty unprofessional and undisciplined in my professional interactions with them, even at the division command level. Some decent rank and file folks like anywhere else but overall it already attracted the wrong crowd and this isn’t going to help.


Not like I care, never living in Ontario again.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Lol I'm in downtown Toronto where a constable can make 200k with OT.

gently caress Doug

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


MA-Horus posted:

Lol I'm in downtown Toronto where a constable can make 200k with OT.

gently caress Doug

That's more (as in, almost twice as much) than a senior scientist with a PhD working for the provincial government makes (who will also have to do enormous amounts of work off the clock because there is no OT for them).

Fearless fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Apr 26, 2023

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe
the commissioner of the OPP made $362k last year. the prime minister of Canada is at $379k

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Everyones on parliament hill tomorrow look for the nerd from SA

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
We’re gonna march across downtown Montreal in a bit.

There’s buses coming tomorrow :getin:

Mederlock
Jun 23, 2012

You won't recognize Canada when I'm through with it
Grimey Drawer
Send in the highlanders!


https://twitter.com/MaritimeRampant/status/1650862684215328768

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Lotta people grumbling that Chris A ain't revealing their ndgotiating wage increase % and some agreeing that 9% is fine.

gently caress off, get more, support other unions getting more (teachers, nurses etc)

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

I thought the CoC made it clear youre not allowed to assault the protesters

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
.

FrozenVent fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Apr 27, 2023

Zibraltar
Jul 15, 2007

by VideoGames

FrozenVent posted:

Quit whining and get your rear end on the line. We backed up traffic from downtown Montreal all the way to the suburbs, what are you doing for the cause?

I'm just earning a living.

Gainsboro
Feb 28, 2023

Twenty Year Lurker
I'm not allowed to publicly advocate for Canadian soldiers forming a union, so just pretend that I did.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Turns out that unions are good and I'm not a legal expert but you could probably judt write in a clause about chain of command blah blah blah ordering someone to risk life and limb bingo banga bongo everyone's probably happy

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Turns out that unions are good and I'm not a legal expert but you could probably judt write in a clause about chain of command blah blah blah ordering someone to risk life and limb bingo banga bongo everyone's probably happy

listen here pal, if pigs dont have to, neither should we

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
I agree, abolish cops. Protection of property is why we have insurance.

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Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


I'd be happy with stripping them of their right to unionize. The CF isn't allowed to and given that so many cops want to cosplay as the CF why not let them live the dream and abolish all police unions.

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