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Crosby B. Alfred posted:I wonder why Tucker is target and not Hannity, Ingram or anyone else? It's not like he's a unique outlier right? Hannity is a company guy he'll shut up when Murdock tells him.
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azflyboy posted:The head of CNN has made it clear that he wants the network to be more right-wing, so I assume that's part of it. I think it’s more that stories kept coming out about what a nightmare psycho Lemon is
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:I wonder why Tucker is target and not Hannity, Ingram or anyone else? It's not like he's a unique outlier right? Because Tucker was the face of Fox and routinely got out over his skis and had to go on one or two week "completely pre-planned vacations" to dodge the heat from all the controversies that he courted over his years, and those texts where he flat out said "holy christ I hate Donald Trump he's the loving devil I want to die every time I talk to him" probably helped grease the wheels for it a little bit. But it was primarily that he cost Fox money with his bullshit. That's always the criterion for getting fired from Fox. If you cause Fox to have to pay out anything more than a 7 figure settlement for anything, you're done.
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selec posted:I think it’s more that stories kept coming out about what a nightmare psycho Lemon is https://twitter.com/CNNPR/status/1650545115897769985?t=s1sL8ijk8VtdXFk67O0W7Q&s=19
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Apr 24, 2023 18:14
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Ha! RT has already tweeted that Tucker could "question more" on their network
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Looking forward to the new hit podcast "The White Power Hour with Tucker Carlson"
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Verisimilidude posted:Looking forward to the new hit podcast "The White Power Hour with Tucker Carlson" He could probably get 3-4 hours a day of national syndication.
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They said this about the O'Keefe kid when he got kicked from Veritas too. https://twitter.com/TRHLofficial/status/1650527280286904327?t=rIxdBb9IoOiNZ5vvN-r89Q&s=19
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 Off topic but gently caress Don Lemon. He always struck me as completely in-authentic and dramatized everything Trump did offering nothing of substance. Just wow. Trumps is really bad guys, look what he did today!
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nine-gear crow posted:Because Tucker was the face of Fox and routinely got out over his skis and had to go on one or two week "completely pre-planned vacations" to dodge the heat from all the controversies that he courted over his years, and those texts where he flat out said "holy christ I hate Donald Trump he's the loving devil I want to die every time I talk to him" probably helped grease the wheels for it a little bit. But it was primarily that he cost Fox money with his bullshit. That's always the criterion for getting fired from Fox. If you cause Fox to have to pay out anything more than a 7 figure settlement for anything, you're done. Tucker was more popular than anyone else on the network? I didn't realize he had replaced O'Riley as their main figurehead.
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:
I liked him more at first, but he seems to have ruined his reputation in recent times. I'd love to see all the firebrand incendiary nightly culture warriors take a hike from the pundit scene and news cycle cause it's gotten incredibly loving tiresome but considering this has been America's absolute favorite thing for the past decade or so I can't say I see it happening. The Tucker exit obviously hurts Fox News and the American right far more than Don Lemon's exit hurts well...any political cause really. Chuds and even Republican politicians received their marching orders and grievance narratives from Tucker every few nights if not every night, and he literally set the tone for an entire political movement in the post Trump presidency era, whereas Don Lemon mainly poo poo on Trump during his tenure which while justifiable in large part wasn't particularly productive journalism and kind of airing of grievances stuff as well. Nobody who watches CNN really relied on the guy to feed them their opinions and tell them how to react and what to think about something that they otherwise wouldn't have come to the same conclusions about in the long run that I'm aware of though.
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I barely know who Don Lemon is. but I know multiple regressive shits. Hell I barely know what my local public radio daytime talk shows are. but the regressive media machine and them pushing their faces/talking heads as supastars once again makes the regressive quip of "the left just worships celebs" just another example of projection.
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From the NYT article Tucker Carlson was given no heads-up that his time at Fox News had drawn to an end, according to two people with knowledge of the timing of the conversation. The anchor was told of the network’s decision on Monday morning, they said. Imagine him walking in the door, going "I got some great stuff to yell about today.." and being asked to head to the CEO's office to get his walking papers before he sits down.
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Hannity on his radio show saying that he knows absolutely nothing about Tucker's firing and it took him by surprise too.
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Kale posted:I liked him more at first, but he seems to have ruined his reputation in recent times. I'd love to see all the firebrand incendiary nightly culture warriors take a hike from the pundit scene and news cycle cause it's gotten incredibly loving tiresome but considering this has been America's absolute favorite thing for the past decade or so I can't say I see it happening. I didn't realize Tucker had gotten so large and influential. That's insane. As for Lemon, you are right that he didn't lead anyone anywhere but that's kind of my point. He - in a way - lead people to... nowhere. His commentary has been such a constant soap opera of Trump disaster porn but that isn't news? It's just really garbage-y tabloid journalism to the point where it's nearly distracting people from actual issue at hand.
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bobjr posted:https://twitter.com/stevematthews12/status/1650582338357657600?s=46&t=CBKJcBX0BD3U5HgUdsqBtw I feel like Daily Wire would have pretty good odds.
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Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:I feel like Daily Wire would have pretty good odds. Or Brazzers.
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Agents are GO! posted:Or Brazzers. Just put a "Live chud reaction" in the lower right corner of every new scene 
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It’s going to be funny seeing Hannity passed up for the 8pm slot yet again.
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Why not just fire Jesse Watters as well then.
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Surely there’s a deep bench of youtube psychos ready for primetime. Crowder? Walsh? Jordan Peterson’s Weeping Parlour?
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Pants Donkey posted:It’s going to be funny seeing Hannity passed up for the 8pm slot yet again.
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Angry_Ed posted:Why not just fire Jesse Watters as well then. He's a perfectly serviceable (for Fox) afternoon and weekend host when nobody's watching, so it makes sense to keep him around for that, but yeah I can see him going eventually too. He's also a shitweasle like Tucker. Fox will probably hire outside talent or pick another also-ran for the big chair and just keep Watters strung along in his never ending mid card limbo.
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Agents are GO! posted:Or Brazzers. Tucker Carlson would never be caught dead at a company that shows women consenting to or enjoying sex. Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Apr 24, 2023 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Honestly he got passed by a long time ago and never did the hard pivot into white nationalism like Tucker did so he’s not going to get that job
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A lot of people in Fox going 'If I go full batshit Majorie Taylor Greene now here, I have a shot at taking Tucker's spot'.
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happyhippy posted:Majorie Taylor Greene Now there’s another candidate for the spot.
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Nancy Pelosi is goated with the ... uh.... you know what, never mind. Wasn't this type of work culture also why Bill O Reilly and some other personalities got ousted? What the gently caress is wrong with these people.
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teemolover42069 posted:https://www.npr.org/2023/04/24/1171641969/fox-news-fires-tucker-carlson-in-stunning-move-a-week-after-787-million-settleme I believe you'll find that misogyny and sexual harassment are in fact behaviors of true Alpha Males unlike those betas that respect women or some poo poo
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:Tucker was more popular than anyone else on the network? I didn't realize he had replaced O'Riley as their main figurehead. He took over O'Reilly's show immediately after Bill got ousted for a another sexual harassment case. It's not even the first time Tucker got fired from Fox, he got canned in the 2000s and called the Murdoch's a bunch of nazis before trying to built his own right-wing online network and then coming groveling back to do guest spots. Tucker didn't become #1 until he had the people behind the top-rated O'Reilly factor backing him. He was just a new face covering the same machine. Which is why O'Reilly never climbed back out of obscurity once he was on his own. We fall for the trap of thinking that these shows are one-man soapboxes representing a singular person's opinion, because that's how they market themselves. Instead of what they actually are- theater productions that are workshopped and constructed in writers rooms in the same way SNL's weekend updates are. That aside, Hannity had his own primetime show for far longer than Tucker but his ratings have been faltering in recent years due to a perception that he's too attached geriatric GOP leaders. He's old, his mind is stuck in the Reagan era, and I even see his viewers mocking him for bringing up his high school resume every single day to pretend he's not an out of touch millionaire. Did you know Sean Hannity had to clean carpets and paint houses 40 years ago? It sucked! It's funny, nowadays we know the exact process for how every other piece of media is made- sitcoms, movies, music, etc. The writers, producers, actors, are all transparent about the hows and whys of what results in the final product with the open intention of being what they think will entertain and captivate The only genre of media that still operates like a black box is the news. Without state funding, we know they're reliant on ratings and sensationalism, but if journalists or pundits reveal what edits they make leading up to broadcast/publication it undermines their image of being truthtellers (or at least giving their "honest opinions"). Imagine if we got to see every prior draft and edit history of any given new segment or article. It'd speak volumes about the journalist's beliefs and motives, whether it's sincere activism, sensationalism to drive the numbers up, or boring-rear end objectivity. The Dominion lawsuit is groundbreaking in that it actually revealed what we suspected for years- that Fox's pundits and writers know that their jobs depend on identifying and validating the irrational fears of the elderly and white high-school equivalents. Anyway, there's no shortage of right-wing suits and young faces to take over his seat, the actual timebomb for Fox news is the overall death of cable, and whether they can properly pivot to being an online streaming network. It's easy to dismiss someone like Crowder, but he's been polishing his business model for over a decade and has become a millionaire with a fraction of the support staff. PhazonLink posted:doesnt Fox have a graveyard hour comedy show. Guttfeld? Guttfield? is this show even still existent? the GBS thread keeps floating back up regular there's no way a dead show would still have a mock thread Yes, and his ratings are on par with late-night hosts on the main networks, because he's captured everyone in that timeslot who thinks they're all too liberal because they don't make homo jokes like they did in the 90s. je1 healthcare fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Apr 24, 2023 |
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I’m on holiday in New York and debased myself by going full tourist and visiting Times Square. Anyway, the most entertaining thing I saw as I walked around the area was a line of people queuing up to be in the audience for Gutfeld!, truly the dregs of humanity. Cameras outside of Fox News as well, waiting for reporters to do a piece to camera in front of the building.
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DarklyDreaming posted:Just put a "Live chud reaction" in the lower right corner of every new scene It would just be tucker's one facial expression in the corner at all times
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azflyboy posted:I assume someone in the Fox legal division convinced management that Tucker was going to cost them a lot of money in various lawsuits if he stayed, or Fox told him he had to tone it down a bit, and he got mad and quit. Crunch Buttsteak posted:Honestly I think this is going to be a bigger blow to right-wing radio than anything else. For the past few years, virtually every right-wing show has a solid 7-8 minute block carved out of it that consists of "listen to what Tucker said last night!" Now those poor radio personalities might actually have to read something to react to, rather than Tucker delivering the newest grievance straight to the audience for them. And his fans will call it another cancel culture casualty. Completely ignoring the fact that FOX shitcanned him on their own. I wonder if Tucker now just fades into obscurity ala Glen Beck and Bill O'Reilly or if he has enough of a following to grift his way out of it. And there's really no shortage of used car salesmen RWM shills ready to go on air and say whatever it is that FOX wants them to. These people are practically built in a factory at this point. Hell, it could be a college major if a school wanted to go down that road. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Apr 25, 2023 |
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There’s another shoe to drop. You don’t just fire your prime time host on a Monday morning with no notice unless something made it seem like a thing that needed to be done right then.
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Axetrain posted:O’Reilly was also pretty old when they finally canned him for his sexual harassment suits, Tucker is younger and can still potentially fly solo. O'Reilly also liked to say he was "independent" politically (he got annoyed when it was revealed he was a registered Republican) and that his show was a "no-spin zone" unafraid to put Democrats and Republicans alike in their place, whereas Tucker and Hannity are openly conservative. Enver Zogha fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Apr 25, 2023 |
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